Ben Simmons Trade Thread part V

[Sportfan73]

Nah sexton is the absolute deal you take. Get at least 2 firsts and take a shot at the upside he’s 22

[Tomjas]

Anyone can be a facilatator. Didn't Julius Randle just average over 6 assists a game this year?

The most important trait of a PG is dribble penetration. And the guys we'll be playing while Ben Simmons sits out are superior to him. As was T.J. McConnell.

If our bench players are better than Ben then we should not expect anything from his trade

[Tomjas]

I wonder how many unprotected firsts we can squeeze from Minnasota. If Edwards is truly not available in a Ben trade, they are a team that we could roll the dice on firsts. D-Lo is what he is, but we could use him short term I guess.

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[RedSalsa]

I wonder how many unprotected firsts we can squeeze from Minnasota. If Edwards is truly not available in a Ben trade, they are a team that we could roll the dice on firsts. D-Lo is what he is, but we could use him short term I guess.

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Kat and Ant untouchable
Lol

Morey isn’t taking Dlo

[rzzzzz]

One thing we know is that not every team is going to come out of the gates great this season. Some teams may over achieve, but some teams will disappoint their fans and concern their front offices. Maybe one of the two all stars might get itchy. Then there’s a couple of “can’t miss” young prospects whose FO’s say “can’t be touched” who might be available later on in return for a 25 year old 3 time all star. I don’t know if its smart to pay him or lean on him, but I don’t mind putting Ben is the cupboard and waiting.

[Stanford]

That report about Gupta doing whatever it takes to get Ben was dumb

[Tomjas]

I wonder how many unprotected firsts we can squeeze from Minnasota. If Edwards is truly not available in a Ben trade, they are a team that we could roll the dice on firsts. D-Lo is what he is, but we could use him short term I guess.

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Kat and Ant untouchable
Lol

Morey isn’t taking Dlo

That’s why a 3rd team is needed

ZERO chance they trade Ant or Kat

[SixthStreet]

What is a third team going to give Minnesota and for what assets they have? This whole third team to give something for nothing is ridiculous.

[RedSalsa]

What is a third team going to give Minnesota and for what assets they have? This whole third team to give something for nothing is ridiculous.

Agree Minnesota has nothing to offer anyone if they think Kat and Ant are untouchable. Has Kat ever won over 35 games without Jimmy Butler??

[Skates]

Sexton, Rubio, Osman or Okoro and one or two picks, lots of movable pieces and assets, no Love plus Sexton, don’t want no matter how many picks come along with that.

[DCasey91]

What is a third team going to give Minnesota and for what assets they have? This whole third team to give something for nothing is ridiculous.

3 way deal with the Blazers works very well imo for all parties, we all get what we want.

... Trouble is Ben’s group can’t think properly and have tanked their own perceived value instead of actually going about it the right way.

[Kobblehead]

We already knew Rosas wouldn't trade us Edwards. And now he's gone and the replacement has the green light to do whatever it takes.

[BullyKing]

Chicago:
Simmons
Joe

Orlando:
Derrick Jones
Troy Brown

Sixers:
Coby White
Pat Williams
Terrance Ross
22/24/26 swap rights with Orlando (basically in the years they don't owe to Orlando and San Antonio)
2028 unprotected 1st

[mjkvol]

Well the definition of a vaccine is to give your body immunity, until they changed it to protection due to the “vaccine” not doing what it was intended to do. Vaccine has made myocarditis sky rocket. So I can see why after recovering from covid he doesn’t want to inject more spike proteins in him.

Well, it used to be, anyway.

It's about being free (there's a concept, huh?) to make choices about what's right for you regarding health care (or anything else, for that matter). Whatever happened to "My body, my choice"? That was rhetorical, of course.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

I don't see Minnesota as a viable trade partner if DLo (who we don't want), and Edwards are both untouchable. I leave KAT off the list as well. I don't see Morey accepting trash offers from Minnesota while they go and form a presumably big four with those guys. I'd personally be fine with a base package of Russell because of the things he can do, and yet them trading Russell as part of a package for Simmons makes no sense because Russell is supposed to be part of all of this teaming up stuff with Ben and KAT. Therefore, I don't see Minnesota as a straight up trade partner at all for us. A third team would certainly have to be involved and then what? That third team takes on Minnesota's trash offers to make the deal happen? What team out there is going to do that? Any team willing to take back picks, assets, and players that are still developing isn't exactly looking to win this year. So who does that leave? Pretty much every team in the league looks as though they want to win or at least compete this year minus OKC (and they might be sneaky good anyway). Other teams that will be bad like Detroit, Orlando, Houston, Sacramento, etc aren't going to get involved in this because they have core players that they are already trying to build with and really don't have anything of interest to return to us or Minnesota. In my opinion this pushes us right back over to Portland and if so, we're looking at a Simmons for CJ/spare change type of deal. Not exactly stimulating. This is also why I'm fine with us just waiting to see how the year shapes up. Something will give, we just can't give in until then.

[Kobblehead]

Chicago:
Simmons
Joe

Orlando:
Derrick Jones
Troy Brown

Sixers:
Coby White
Pat Williams
Terrance Ross
22/24/26 swap rights with Orlando (basically in the years they don't owe to Orlando and San Antonio)
2028 unprotected 1st

I'd even throw sweeteners Orlando's way to get them to comply.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

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Not to make this political, but I think I'm out on Beal, lol. Just say you don't understand how the vaccine works.

Well the definition of a vaccine is to give your body immunity, until they changed it to protection due to the “vaccine” not doing what it was intended to do. Vaccine has made myocarditis sky rocket. So I can see why after recovering from covid he doesn’t want to inject more spike proteins in him.

Well, it used to be, anyway.

To me, it's about being free (there's a concept, huh?) to make choices about what's right for you regarding health care (or anything else, for that matter). Whatever happened to "My body, my choice"? That was rhetorical, of course.

Cool bro, so what are your thoughts on Simmons? Do we trade him soon or does it drag out for a while? It'd be a shame for this argument to just rage on without it ever being resolved. I mean, some people are seeing it one way with him, while some are seeing it a different way. I don't think either side is right or wrong and at the end of the day I think we should just do what's best for us. If trading him is the best move, then that's what we'll do. If keeping is, then so be it.

[mjkvol]

Well the definition of a vaccine is to give your body immunity, until they changed it to protection due to the “vaccine” not doing what it was intended to do. Vaccine has made myocarditis sky rocket. So I can see why after recovering from covid he doesn’t want to inject more spike proteins in him.

Well, it used to be, anyway.

To me, it's about being free (there's a concept, huh?) to make choices about what's right for you regarding health care (or anything else, for that matter). Whatever happened to "My body, my choice"? That was rhetorical, of course.

Cool bro, so what are your thoughts on Simmons? Do we trade him soon or does it drag out for a while? It'd be a shame for this argument to just rage on without it ever being resolved. I mean, some people are seeing it one way with him, while some are seeing it a different way. I don't think either side is right or wrong and at the end of the day I think we should just do what's best for us. If trading him is the best move, then that's what we'll do. If keeping is, then so be it.

Couldn't agree more.

[BullyKing]

Chicago:
Simmons
Joe

Orlando:
Derrick Jones
Troy Brown

Sixers:
Coby White
Pat Williams
Terrance Ross
22/24/26 swap rights with Orlando (basically in the years they don't owe to Orlando and San Antonio)
2028 unprotected 1st

I'd even throw sweeteners Orlando's way to get them to comply.

Getting Orlando on board is the least of our worries. They take on an extra couple million in a tanking year and save 11 million next year.

The Sixers also get the added benefits of getting under the tax this year and having Green and Ross combining for over $20 million in salary ballast to go after a star next offseason.

[Stanford]

I doubt the Bulls would do Pat Williams for Ben straight up