Sixers Offseason Thread Part 2

[LeonJordanJr24]

Oubre should definitely be resigned. He earned it.

[mjkvol]

Ramon Shelbourne said Butler is not the Sixers top target because of the money and trade compensation they’d have to give up. So each insider is saying a different top name is not one of their top targets. Someone’s gotta be wrong, all the smoke right now is hard to cut through.

This pretty much says it all, and yet conclusions are still drawn based on clickbait from these leeches. Throw a bunch of schiit against the wall and see what sticks - I guess someone's gotta be "right" as well.

[mjkvol]

Last season was supposed to be a transitional season for us and look at where we were prior to Embiid getting shelved. Now I don't think we would have gotten by Boston, but even in a punt season with Maxey and Embiid we were damn close to being Finals material. I don't see how all of this needs to be completed this summer. We have two big time building blocks with Embiid and Maxey. Health has been our biggest issue. You fill out the roster correctly around those two and you might be surprised at how good we actually are.

It only needs to be completed this summer for those that want to pound Morey if it doesn't happen that way. Short of signing one of those garish max dinosaurs or using all our capital to trade for another, the most likely (and to me, ideal) scenario is a DDR type signing and fill out the roster around Embiid and Maxey with role players and hopefully draft picks. We have a competitive roster and keep our powder dry for next year's deadline.

But I still don't believe that all the dominoes have fallen as far as who may come available this summer, shocking as it might be to some if any haven't been "reported" yet.

[sammorey]

There is little to no chance Demar Derozan is a Sixer. He's the opposite of what Morey likes and he's also a terrible fit with our best players.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

There is little to no chance Demar Derozan is a Sixer. He's the opposite of what Morey likes and he's also a terrible fit with our best players.

Why?

[the_process]

There is little to no chance Demar Derozan is a Sixer. He's the opposite of what Morey likes and he's also a terrible fit with our best players.

Why?

He doesn't space. He wants to get to similar spots as Jo and needs to pound the ball to do so. Sound familiar? That being said, DDR is not a shrinking violet like Tobias and he actually is a good secondary playmaker, although he does not have the greatest playoff track record. He is familiar with Nurse and is very friendly with Lowry, whom we all expect to be back.

Obviously if he wants a max deal or brings up that Chicago supposedly offered him 2-80, you just walk away. But if you can get him on a "bargain" deal (say 3-75M) then it could be worth it.

[the_process]

Last season was supposed to be a transitional season for us and look at where we were prior to Embiid getting shelved. Now I don't think we would have gotten by Boston, but even in a punt season with Maxey and Embiid we were damn close to being Finals material. I don't see how all of this needs to be completed this summer. We have two big time building blocks with Embiid and Maxey. Health has been our biggest issue. You fill out the roster correctly around those two and you might be surprised at how good we actually are.

It only needs to be completed this summer for those that want to pound Morey if it doesn't happen that way. Short of signing one of those garish max dinosaurs or using all our capital to trade for another, the most likely (and to me, ideal) scenario is a DDR type signing and fill out the roster around Embiid and Maxey with role players and hopefully draft picks. We have a competitive roster and keep our powder dry for next year's deadline.

But I still don't believe that all the dominoes have fallen as far as who may come available this summer, shocking as it might be to some if any haven't been "reported" yet.

Yeah, it's likely we haven't seen any real fallout yet from the new CBA rules, and there will be some. Tomorrow is the draft! Big day. I am on board with keeping 16. Would really like one of the big guards to pair with Maxey, even if they come off the bench for their first couple years.

[Mik317]

Demar is very much a shrinking violet tho

man has some insane playoff let downs in his career for a lot of the same reasons Jo does. He lives off of tough shot making and crafty FT grifting...which becomes harder when teams can key in on you

[Jailblazers7]

Demar has been an under qualified #1 throughout his career tho. I’d be curious to see how he fairs when he’s 3rd on the defenses game plan.

[the_process]

Demar is very much a shrinking violet tho

man has some insane playoff let downs in his career for a lot of the same reasons Jo does. He lives off of tough shot making and crafty FT grifting...which becomes harder when teams can key in on you

DDR chokes but he shows up. Without going through his game logs I don't think you're going to find too many 0-3 or 1-6 efforts. You will definitely find the 4-18s though.

I will never forget that game log from about a decade ago right after the Raps traded for Rudy Gay, there was one game where Gay and DDR combined for 63 FGA. And as a team the Raptors only had like 90.

[the_process]

Read on Twitter

Incredible

Hysterical.

[ProcessDoctor]

If Oubre wasn’t here last year, I’d probably pick Naji over him given the slight upside of him being a better shooter. Kelly has shown year after year that he’s not a great shooter despite being willing to let it fly (no complaints there though).

Apparently Naji and Ingram are really tight so Naji maybe willing to follow BI here if we land him.

[sammorey]

I was a huge Oubre hater, thought it was a dumb signing even at the minimum. I was completely wrong and he showed me a lot during the Knicks series. I hope they are able to bring up back for under $10 million/year. Of course, last year was a contract year and we might have gotten the best Oubre we'll ever see. So there are reasons to let him walk.

[Negrodamus]

Demar is very much a shrinking violet tho

man has some insane playoff let downs in his career for a lot of the same reasons Jo does. He lives off of tough shot making and crafty FT grifting...which becomes harder when teams can key in on you

DDR chokes but he shows up. Without going through his game logs I don't think you're going to find too many 0-3 or 1-6 efforts. You will definitely find the 4-18s though.

I will never forget that game log from about a decade ago right after the Raps traded for Rudy Gay, there was one game where Gay and DDR combined for 63 FGA. And as a team the Raptors only had like 90.

Watch on YouTube

I know DeRozan will never escape the rep of being a choker from 10 years ago, but he’s been on insanely dysfunctional teams since the Raptors and has been in the running for most clutch player for multiple years.

We need someone to show up in the fourth since we have the guys who show up 1-3 quarters.

[AI_Efficiency]

Demar is very much a shrinking violet tho

man has some insane playoff let downs in his career for a lot of the same reasons Jo does. He lives off of tough shot making and crafty FT grifting...which becomes harder when teams can key in on you

DDR chokes but he shows up. Without going through his game logs I don't think you're going to find too many 0-3 or 1-6 efforts. You will definitely find the 4-18s though.

I will never forget that game log from about a decade ago right after the Raps traded for Rudy Gay, there was one game where Gay and DDR combined for 63 FGA. And as a team the Raptors only had like 90.

Watch on YouTube

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I know DeRozan will never escape the rep of being a choker from 10 years ago, but he’s been on insanely dysfunctional teams since the Raptors and has been in the running for most clutch player for multiple years.

We need someone to show up in the fourth since we have the guys who show up 1-3 quarters.

I’m just more concerned about playoff spacing. I feel like it’s tough if you have a player that can’t shoot. Especially if they aren’t a major roll / cut threat. Teams would play us how they already play harden / Maxey and embiid’s pick and roll where you just sell out to stop it and bet that other guy’s won’t punish you. It will be even harder when they can rotate off DeRozan and not worry about him from the perimeter.

[GoSixersBro]

All this talk about fit, let me ask you all, pure fantasy scenario, who would be the ultimate archetype of a player to be third banana to Embiid and Maxey? Any current player is fair game to say, let's hear it.

[Negrodamus]

DDR chokes but he shows up. Without going through his game logs I don't think you're going to find too many 0-3 or 1-6 efforts. You will definitely find the 4-18s though.

I will never forget that game log from about a decade ago right after the Raps traded for Rudy Gay, there was one game where Gay and DDR combined for 63 FGA. And as a team the Raptors only had like 90.

Watch on YouTube

;pp=ygUOZGVyb3phbiBjbHV0Y2g%3D

I know DeRozan will never escape the rep of being a choker from 10 years ago, but he’s been on insanely dysfunctional teams since the Raptors and has been in the running for most clutch player for multiple years.

We need someone to show up in the fourth since we have the guys who show up 1-3 quarters.

I’m just more concerned about playoff spacing. I feel like it’s tough if you have a player that can’t shoot. Especially if they aren’t a major roll / cut threat. Teams would play us how they already play harden / Maxey and embiid’s pick and roll where you just sell out to stop it and bet that other guy’s won’t punish you. It will be even harder when they can rotate off DeRozan and not worry about him from the perimeter.

That’s what the 2 and 4 will be for. Also Maxey is one of the best knock down perimeter shooters in the league.

On top of all that, we just watched Doncic and Kyrie shoot themselves out of the Finals. I also think the “DeRozan isn’t a shooter” narrative is somewhat old. I think he’s a willing and able C&S three point shooter, but he definitely has his spots on the court he’d rather shoot from.

[Stanford]

All this talk about fit, let me ask you all, pure fantasy scenario, who would be the ultimate archetype of a player to be third banana to Embiid and Maxey? Any current player is fair game to say, let's hear it.

Kawhi

[ankle420breaker]

All this talk about fit, let me ask you all, pure fantasy scenario, who would be the ultimate archetype of a player to be third banana to Embiid and Maxey? Any current player is fair game to say, let's hear it.

Kawhi

Agreed. Kawhi or Butler would be the ideal archetype fits between Embiid and Maxey.

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[PhillyFan11]

High volume 3 point shooters that can play defense. That’s what we need.

…and of course pray that Embiid stays healthy for once.

DeRozan nor Butler are ideal options