SixerFan1976 Offseason Thread (Update Pg 73)

[76ciology]

Hate all of these Hump scenarios. They don't need to toe up a ton of cap space on another player who is good but not great.

Hold onto flexibility until you have your franchise player(s) in place. Then spend in the complementary pieces. But right now they don't yet have the franchise player so they really can't know what other pieces will end up being the right fit or best use of limited resources.

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I agree but that's not how the 76ers run their team. hahaha

[PhilasFinest]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

[JordanMars]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

Perfectly said. The $$ is always spent in some way.

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

Wow sounds like a lot of rumblings in this front office this offseason...More than i've heard since the 2008 campaign for Brand and Josh Smith... I hope something happens.
I'm totally on board for Austin Rivers to replace Louis Williams if he walks. Think Rivers is gonna be a baller people, and could possibly start if we trade Turner.

[P2K]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

False. Well, at least for me. I never wanted the Sixers to spend that money. Because the money wasn't going toward a superstar. Liked Brand, but he wasn't that "guy". Plus, he was coming off injury. And Josh Smith, no matter how many Sixers fans hype him up, will never be more than what he is now.

Real, die hard Sixers fans would understand not spending just because the money is there to spend. Especially if we know that the franchise has a plan set out. Instead, we got the slop that we have now where no one knows what direction we are going.

[Foshan]

Yeah, I *really* don't like the Jrue/Turner/15/Humph/Gasol(Jefferson) ideas. Like, wow bad. I'm not sure that that team gets as many wins as the current one did, and it will have less assets and cap space going forward.

Seriously, who comes up with this stuff?

[SixerFever215]

After making the playoffs and goin to the 2nd round of the playoff and gettin valueabe experience I doubt Doug Collins and organization want to trade players off there roster for young unproven players. For instance trading iggy Collins sees him as big piece to the 76 puzzle a defensive stopper who brings it evey night. To me the odds of him gettin traded are slim, and there's no way he gets traded for a lottery pick because that will make us a young team all over again. If anybody gets traded its ET, Lou, Thad or the 15th pick.

[The Sixer Fixer]

After making the playoffs and goin to the 2nd round of the playoff and gettin valueabe experience I doubt Doug Collins and organization want to trade players off there roster for young unproven players. For instance trading iggy Collins sees him as big piece to the 76 puzzle a defensive stopper who brings it evey night. To me the odds of him gettin traded are slim, and there's no way he gets traded for a lottery pick because that will make us a young team all over again. If anybody gets traded its ET, Lou, Thad or the 15th pick.

The only reason I would dispute your opinion that Andre isn't moved is because there have been some reports that there's been friction between Andre and Doug. Who knows if that's true, and if so, what is causing it.

[SJSF]

After making the playoffs and goin to the 2nd round of the playoff and gettin valueabe experience I doubt Doug Collins and organization want to trade players off there roster for young unproven players. For instance trading iggy Collins sees him as big piece to the 76 puzzle a defensive stopper who brings it evey night. To me the odds of him gettin traded are slim, and there's no way he gets traded for a lottery pick because that will make us a young team all over again. If anybody gets traded its ET, Lou, Thad or the 15th pick.

2012 playoff run. Fools Gold. This team wasn't that good. We would have gotten eliminated in 4/5 games against Chicago. This team had problems scoring. And this team was leaking oil the last half of the year. Changes have to be made. Front court help especially. Jrue and Turner is the future in the back court. Iggy Brand, Hawes, and Lou have to be traded, amnestied or not resigned.

[Sixerscan]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

The people in charge now didn't sign Brand. New ownership/GM/coach.

[SJSF]

Yeah, I *really* don't like the Jrue/Turner/15/Humph/Gasol(Jefferson) ideas. Like, wow bad. I'm not sure that that team gets as many wins as the current one did, and it will have less assets and cap space going forward.

Seriously, who comes up with this stuff?

Humpries is only worth getting if you can get him for 7-8m. But he is really just a backup player in my book. I for one would trade Thad for him.

[SJSF]

Lamb shot and interviewed poorly at the combine and had bad motor questions coming into it, so I doubt he merits the 8th pick now, nor do I want him and certainly don't want to trade up for him.

Waiters I am not a fan of yet, but if he has developed a jump shot to go with his driving skills and improved attitude, I might buy into him being a Tyreke Evans type who can shoot. Thick bodied and long armed to compensate for a lack of height, also seems to have a hard as nails, killer attitude on the court. If he works out really well, i might be talked into liking him. Might.

Turner is not really a point guard, just a ball dominant two guard who can't shoot and has barely league average athleticism. Not as tall, strong or lengthy as Iggy as a SF, nor does he have the hops Iggy does to challenge the better SF's. He is more of a glue guy, sixth man type, sort of a poor man's Iggy with a better handle. Building with him as a rotation player is fine. If the plan is to build around him, we might as well blow it all up now.

In my view, if we trade Iggy, we need to replace both starting wing positions. Turner can play one, but not especially well.

Turner is a better ball handler and rebounder then Iggy. He drives to the rim better then Iggy does. Iggy is a slightly better defender. And this year Iggy developed a 3 point shot. Give Turner time and he will be better in almost every catagory then Iggy. And it will cost the Sixers a lot less. Iggys contract makes the Sixers a .500 team.

[SJSF]

For everyone that wants to trade up in the draft. Thats for a team that is rebuilding. If i was the Sixers, i would trade the pick for a proven player. The 15th pick is not something that will probably contribute this year or next.

[Ming]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

The people in charge now didn't sign Brand. New ownership/GM/coach.

But our GM was in charge of giving $57millions to Travis Outlaw, Johan Petro and Jordan Farmar with the Nets.

[Foshan]

For everyone that wants to trade up in the draft. Thats for a team that is rebuilding. If i was the Sixers, i would trade the pick for a proven player. The 15th pick is not something that will probably contribute this year or next.

Well i kind of like the idea of trading Iggy to get into the upper draft and get an impact player...

Then using Brand/15/anything else to bring in a player that helps us win... which is why i really like the idea of a

Jrue/Gordon(overpay)/Turner/Allen/Drummond kinda line up. Youth, but competitive potential.

[SJSF]

Its a proven fact that youth does not win in the NBA. If you want to win you need vets that know how to play. Sure if a Shaq or Dwigght H is in the draft that type of player makes you good fast. But there hasn't been a franchise player that can turnaround a franchise instantly in over a decade. I would trade the 15th for a nice swingman/SF for the Sixers. Trade Iggy for a big like Gasol or Jefferson. AMnesty Brand for an impact player. And we will be better much better team then last year.

[PhilasFinest]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

The people in charge now didn't sign Brand. New ownership/GM/coach.

Yea i know. But it's true in the sense of most teams and businesses period. Fans (more causal/media to be honest) want something now and don't wanna wait 4-5 years to rebuild, which is what alot of us are asking for.

That pressure for something now, forces Almost any owner to somewhat spend available
$$ because if they don't, outsiders will view them as not trying.

[SparksFly87]

If Drummonds availiable at 5 for the Kings . We have to trade Iggy for Him. This guy has massive potential.

[PhilasFinest]

I'd be all on board. Drummond has the size athletic ability n framework to become of dominant big man in the league.

[sixers hoops]

Honestly. Spending fast is a result of fans demanding it.

Take our EB signing.

We all hate it now, but if we hadn't spent all that cap room on him or j smith most fans would be calling for someone's head in the organization saying there cheap.

If we free up $$, I'd bet mine that it gets spent in some way, it's just the nature of the business.

I hope that are management is not so weak that they make a bad signing so the fans don't get mad. Those same fans won't be going to the games when mediocre players are eating up are salary cap and our team stinks.