76ers 2023-24 Season Thread Part 1

[FireMorey]

Oubre is back.

[M2J]

The about trading Tobias is OG and Jerami Grant are both worse in shot creation.

That’s why now, I’m open in trading Tobi for Siakam. Siakam is cheaper and it solves our “shot creation” and “size” problem.

He’s also a way better winning player than Lavine. With his length and mobility on defense while he passes, cuts and set screens better than Lavine.

We should also be in a much better position to compete if Embiid is absent physically and spiritually.

Floor spacing? Just big to big passing. Jokic does it with AG.

Hell.. after trading for Siakam, we might even have some assets left for Jerami Grant and Brogdon.

Spoiler:

Blazers:
50M expiring (Melton, Batum, Korkmaz, House and Marcus Morris)
2028 LAC 1st Round Pick
2028 Sixers 1st Round (pick swap option)
- Melton replaces Brogdon
- Rebuilding. Cap flexibility, one likely lottery pick and a pick swap option

Raptors:
Tobias Harris
2026 OKC 1st round Pick
2026 Sixers Pick Swap Option
- Tobi replaces Siakam’s role to be competitive this season
- Better than ending up with nothing
* can easily swap this to Bulls for Lavine

Sixers:
Malcolm Brogdon
Pascal Siakam
Jerami Grant

Malcolm Brogdon/Pat Bev
Tyrese Maxey/
Jerami Grant/Oubre
Pascal Siakam/Roco
Joel Embiid/Paul Reed

- i know some of you are still suffering from the “clunky” era but we have two guards in Brogdon and Maxey. While Jerami Grant is just as skilled as a ball handler as Oubre

I think Grant would be a bit better fit. But, Pascal would be fine in place of Tobias. Definite upgrade. Wouldn't feel great about maxing him out, but it would likely take that.

[phillynative]

Idk, I go back and forth with Siakim. What makes Pascal a better shot creator than OG , Grant or Tobi? Watching him play I dont think he is. Tobi did a pretty good job defending him in the playoffs last season which could be concerning. He's definitely a better all-around player even if you take away his scoring he can make an impact in other ways.

The one thing I can say about Pascal though is that he has had some pretty good games against the Celtics. Which is more than you can say about Tobi. That's a plus to me since the Celtics are clearly the roadblock the Sixers would have to go through. The Tatum/Brown wing duo has been scary for us because of the lack of ability to match up defensively and not having a player on the wing that won't be overwhelmed by them defensively. With Siakim you have a guy that has no problem defending either and has the mixture of length and athleticism to not get shut down by that duo plus Horford.

I'm not a huge fan of Siakim but his mixture of offensive and defensive versatility could give us a edge in the playoffs . But we would also be betting on Maxey being that true Robin to Embiids Batman. My concern with Maxey has always been his shotcreating ability and Siakim doesn't really add to that. Our wing depth would be the best in the league.

Siakim
Batum
Covington
Oubre

Thats an overwhelming mix of 2way wings you can throw at the Celtics, Bucks, Magic(yep), Wolves,Nuggets, Suns... Buhh what those teams have that we still wouldn't have is multiple on the ball peremeter players...

[M2J]

Idk, I go back and forth with Siakim. What makes Pascal a better shot creator than OG , Grant or Tobi? Watching him play I dont think he is. Tobi did a pretty good job defending him in the playoffs last season which could be concerning. He's definitely a better all-around player even if you take away his scoring he can make an impact in other ways.

The one thing I can say about Pascal though is that he has had some pretty good games against the Celtics. Which is more than you can say about Tobi. That's a plus to me since the Celtics are clearly the roadblock the Sixers would have to go through. The Tatum/Brown wing duo has been scary for us because of the lack of ability to match up defensively and not having a player on the wing that won't be overwhelmed by them defensively. With Siakim you have a guy that has no problem defending either and has the mixture of length and athleticism to not get shut down by that duo plus Horford.

I'm not a huge fan of Siakim but his mixture of offensive and defensive versatility could give us a edge in the playoffs . But we would also be betting on Maxey being that true Robin to Embiids Batman. My concern with Maxey has always been his shotcreating ability and Siakim doesn't really add to that. Our wing depth would be the best in the league.

Siakim
Batum
Covington
Oubre

Thats an overwhelming mix of 2way wings you can throw at the Celtics, Bucks, Magic(yep), Wolves,Nuggets, Suns... Buhh what those teams have that we still wouldn't have is multiple on the ball peremeter players...

Siakam has been a 2 time all NBA and all star shot creator. He can handle the ball one on one from the perimeter, in the post and get assists. His biggest drawback is his floor spacing issue. However I think with the gravity of Maxey and Joel it will help him instead of being a number one type option.

But you can definitely run your offense through him and give Maxey less minutes due to his presence. He just doesn't fit as well next to Joel. However, I would imagine that this is an issue that the coach is used to.

[Negrodamus]

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[Skates]

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Hoisting PJs contract next year off onto the Clippers and removing the offensive vacuum both years was a huge part of winning the Harden deal.

[76ciology]

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Upgrading Tucker to someone who can score and jump on defense is lowkey the biggest reason why we’re so much better

[76ciology]

Idk, I go back and forth with Siakim. What makes Pascal a better shot creator than OG , Grant or Tobi? Watching him play I dont think he is. Tobi did a pretty good job defending him in the playoffs last season which could be concerning. He's definitely a better all-around player even if you take away his scoring he can make an impact in other ways.

The one thing I can say about Pascal though is that he has had some pretty good games against the Celtics. Which is more than you can say about Tobi. That's a plus to me since the Celtics are clearly the roadblock the Sixers would have to go through. The Tatum/Brown wing duo has been scary for us because of the lack of ability to match up defensively and not having a player on the wing that won't be overwhelmed by them defensively. With Siakim you have a guy that has no problem defending either and has the mixture of length and athleticism to not get shut down by that duo plus Horford.

I'm not a huge fan of Siakim but his mixture of offensive and defensive versatility could give us a edge in the playoffs . But we would also be betting on Maxey being that true Robin to Embiids Batman. My concern with Maxey has always been his shotcreating ability and Siakim doesn't really add to that. Our wing depth would be the best in the league.

Siakim
Batum
Covington
Oubre

Thats an overwhelming mix of 2way wings you can throw at the Celtics, Bucks, Magic(yep), Wolves,Nuggets, Suns... Buhh what those teams have that we still wouldn't have is multiple on the ball peremeter players...

Siakam used to play that role Biid is playing now on Nurse’s offense. Nurse can turn him into a 23-26ppg player. As I’ve said, the downside is the redundancy with Embiid. But since Embiid looks like he’s just imitating Jokic, maybe Siakam can be like our Aaron Gordon where we can drop the ball down to him when Biid or Maxey collapses the paint.

Best of all is he can play Embiid’s role on offense when Biid is not playing or feels not like playing. Which is the MOST IMPORTANT factor.

Maxey
Melton
Oubre
Siakam
Reed

or

Maxey
Oubre
Batum
Siakam
Reed

We can live those games when Biid is absent and be good when Biid is playing.

Maxey
Melton
Oubre
Siakam
Embiid

Pascal is cheap, he’ll leave us with assets that we can do trades for future upgrades. He also makes us a better team with or without Embiid.

[SixthStreet]

Why would we go for Siakam over DeRozan? Siakam will cost more assets, a big money extension, and is a demonstrably worse offensive player than DeRozan. Siakam's defense isn't valuable enough to bridge the gap.

[Skates]

Unless they are starting at superstar status, I don't want our biggest trade be for the opportunity to pay some guy for his decline years. We just avoided that and Siakam and Grant are athleticism dependent players heading into their thirties and on or wanting a major payday to take them farther into their thirties. I'd like to target someone, or two less than max guys that slot in between Maxey and Embiid age-wise.

[phillynative]

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Upgrading Tucker to someone who can score and jump on defense is lowkey the biggest reason why we’re so much better

The fact that he started for us in all games and the playoffs is bizarre. He's obviously cooked. He was completely ignored on offense in the celtics series.

[76ciology]

Why would we go for Siakam over DeRozan? Siakam will cost more assets, a big money extension, and is a demonstrably worse offensive player than DeRozan. Siakam's defense isn't valuable enough to bridge the gap.

Roster fit. If you trade Tobi for Derozan, you’d have a hole at PF. Who plays PF? Roco is unreliable and is better as a back-up. If you trade our wings from Clips and have Tobi & Derozan on the court, you’d have problems on defense.

Long term. Derozan is 34. He’s more of a band aid solution. You can trade Siakam with picks later on, which you can’t do with a re-signed Derozan at 34.

System Fit. Siakam can thrive with Embiid and without Embiid. Siakam is better with ball movement, Derozan is worse with ball movement. Siakam clogs the paint? Biid takes a lot of non paint shots. You can make a better case that Derozan would clog the space for Biid to operate at the elbows. Siakam also lessens the load for Biid on defense.

Size. You can run Oubre at the 2, Batum at 3, Siakam at the 4 and Embiid at the 5. I think to beat the Celts, you need size. Thats why they always have a problem with the Magic and currently with the Nets.

[phiphan]

Giving up Tobias + assets for a player marginally better than Tobias does not seem like a Morey move.

[76ciology]

Giving up Tobias + assets for a player marginally better than Tobias does not seem like a Morey move.

Siakam wont cost much. Thats one of the best thing about trading for him.

We just want these MIDS to trade for Lavine, Caruso and Derozan. That would weaken the bid war for Siakam.

[Negrodamus]

I'm not really sure what Siakam provides? He looks like trash whenever he plays against us recently. Maybe I need to see him against other teams.

[Stanford]

Siakam can't shoot, he's a terrible fit. Stay away!

[the_process]

Why would we go for Siakam over DeRozan? Siakam will cost more assets, a big money extension, and is a demonstrably worse offensive player than DeRozan. Siakam's defense isn't valuable enough to bridge the gap.

Roster fit. If you trade Tobi for Derozan, you’d have a hole at PF. Who plays PF? Roco is unreliable and is better as a back-up. If you trade our wings from Clips and have Tobi & Derozan on the court, you’d have problems on defense.

Long term. Derozan is 34. He’s more of a band aid solution. You can trade Siakam with picks later on, which you can’t do with a re-signed Derozan at 34.

System Fit. Siakam can thrive with Embiid and without Embiid. Siakam is better with ball movement, Derozan is worse with ball movement. Siakam clogs the paint? Biid takes a lot of non paint shots. You can make a better case that Derozan would clog the space for Biid to operate at the elbows. Siakam also lessens the load for Biid on defense.

Size. You can run Oubre at the 2, Batum at 3, Siakam at the 4 and Embiid at the 5. I think to beat the Celts, you need size. Thats why they always have a problem with the Magic and currently with the Nets.

Batum and Covington can cover the 4 for the rest of this year if Tobias were to be moved.

That being said, unless it's cheap no to Siakam or DDR. Rather wait.

[Kobblehead]

Stay away from Siakam and Derozan, tbh.

Neither can shoot and neither play defense, at this point.

Anunoby or Grant or stand pat.

[Sportfan73]

Stay away from Siakam and Derozan, tbh.

Neither can shoot and neither play defense, at this point.

Anunoby or Grant or stand pat.

Sneak Kuzma in there too as a dark horse

[LeonJordanJr24]

Grant and brogdan might be the two upgrades we need...