Re: ** Official 2024 Make or Break Offseason Thread **
Posted: Fri May 10, 2024 7:18 pm
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elchengue20 wrote:
It is not a contradiction. There is an intermediate point that we have to follow. The reality is that you can't build the team in the long term either, you only have a maximum of 3 years with Embiid at this level. You have to maximize the window now.
That doesn't mean going in desperation mode and sign 34 year old PG13 to max money, which is immediately going to be a bad contract, even next season.
It is also true that the league is shifting towards having a strong rotation of 7/8 players rather than having a strong big 3.
It is better to build a solid team with depth and two way players than to chase stars and even worse aging stars.
madmaxmedia wrote:Arsenal wrote:madmaxmedia wrote:As a Clipper fan just trying to get a sense of what you guys are thinking, I think Paul George is a pretty good signing at around 3/$150M. We were really disappointed in his playoffs performance this year and he can be up and down, but his overall stat line is still really good and has largely held up. A 3 year deal should have decent value as a trade asset.
I think 4 year max is a bridge too far though, for Clippers, Sixers, or anyone. I want him back on a 3 year deal, but if someone is willing to pay the max then c'est la vie.
I believe it will require a 4-year deal for around $180m - $190m for Paul George to come here. If we only offer 3 years he's definitely staying with the Clippers.
That said I'm pretty sure we'll offer him something in the range I mentioned. Then the question becomes will Ballmer match by giving the 4th year or not.
My guess is that for 4 years in that range, he'll probably do it? (even if I don't think he should.) You guys would be in a better position to win now if you did add him, so that makes the 1 or possibly 2 bad years at the back end more acceptable since the last contract year you're probably looking at him as an expiring to trade. But us giving him a near max would likely only add up to 1 or 2 more 50-win seasons and non-impressive playoff runs.
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mjkvol wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/brandon-ingram-landing-spots-pelicans-all-star-forward-looks-like-one-of-the-offseasons-top-trade-candidates/
Interesting that we're not included as one of the possible landing spots for Ingram.
Black Mage wrote:mjkvol wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/brandon-ingram-landing-spots-pelicans-all-star-forward-looks-like-one-of-the-offseasons-top-trade-candidates/
Interesting that we're not included as one of the possible landing spots for Ingram.
Another highly intelligent article out of CBS.
The Cavs scenario is based on Mitchell leaving and the Cavs somehow getting a good return.
The Hawks would have to move Murray and then jettison even more salary to make it work, and not easy salary to dump either.
Rockets... author can't really explain why they would do it, except "tough shot making" while also observing Ingram would force Brooks their spark plug to the bench and stifle the development of Cam Whitmore.
Detroit... why not???
mjkvol wrote:Black Mage wrote:mjkvol wrote:https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/brandon-ingram-landing-spots-pelicans-all-star-forward-looks-like-one-of-the-offseasons-top-trade-candidates/
Interesting that we're not included as one of the possible landing spots for Ingram.
Another highly intelligent article out of CBS.
The Cavs scenario is based on Mitchell leaving and the Cavs somehow getting a good return.
The Hawks would have to move Murray and then jettison even more salary to make it work, and not easy salary to dump either.
Rockets... author can't really explain why they would do it, except "tough shot making" while also observing Ingram would force Brooks their spark plug to the bench and stifle the development of Cam Whitmore.
Detroit... why not???
Yeah, he was really scuffling to come up with rationales for some of these teams. Looks like one of those "well, it seemed like a good idea at the time" space fillers on a national media site.
Stanford wrote:blargh wrote:I think the Knicks series showed that the Sixers have to find a way to play with a bit more pace and athleticism.
I think they would have won the series easily if they could have kept the Knicks off the offensive boards. That's what I took from the series.
76ciology wrote:Looking at Embiid, his most valued trait is scoring, as is Maxey's. Let them be our go-to guys down the stretch. What we need is to either construct a team that prevents close games by winning non-Embiid minutes, or a team that gives Maxey and Embiid good opportunities by having less fatigue (depth), better shot quality (spacing), and improved frequency (rebounding and defense) if a game becomes close.
Against the Knicks, Josh Hart and Divicenzo hits their biggest shots. They don’t need a Jimmy Butler to make the shots for them.
Who are you thinking of?SixersSince82 wrote:76ciology wrote:Looking at Embiid, his most valued trait is scoring, as is Maxey's. Let them be our go-to guys down the stretch. What we need is to either construct a team that prevents close games by winning non-Embiid minutes, or a team that gives Maxey and Embiid good opportunities by having less fatigue (depth), better shot quality (spacing), and improved frequency (rebounding and defense) if a game becomes close.
Against the Knicks, Josh Hart and Divicenzo hits their biggest shots. They don’t need a Jimmy Butler to make the shots for them.
Dont see this at all. The recipe for success is taking the scoring burden off of Joel and allowing him to focus on dominating defensively. His scoring takes a playoff hit every season. He was just absolutely abysmal in 5 of 6 4th quarters against the Knicks. Love Joel, but there is nothing about him that suggests he can be a championship caliber closer. Maxey, may be different, but Joel, not a chance.
This team needs another scorer in the worst way. Not an over the hill overpaid max guy. But they need someone who can be relied upon to score in the non-embiid minutes and who can take some more of the scoring burden away from Joel while he's on the court, because honestly, dude is getting 37-40 minutes in the playoffs dang near every night regardless of who the backup center is. That's just how it goes in the playoffs. Teams shorten their rotation and play their best players more. So he needs to rest while on the court, too.
Black Mage wrote:Stanford wrote:Is George for space and Murray for picks possible at any point this year?
It is, but I believe it has to be done before Maxey extension.
Stanford wrote:And if those athletes are bad defensive rebounders?
Kobblehead wrote:Dario Saric would be a great get for fit and chemistry.
ProcessDoctor wrote:Old, injured, and unathletic? Morey will be all over this.