2020-2021 College Basketball / NBA Draft

[Stanford]

Cam Thomas' youtube reminds me of Edwards' from last year

You mean anthony edwards?

Yep.

[76ciology]

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[DCasey91]

Cam Thomas' youtube reminds me of Edwards' from last year

You mean anthony edwards? Yup, both are inefficient scorers in college. My numbers say Edwards is nowhere as good as Cam Thomas on offense.

Cam Thomas reminds me of Michael Redd and Nick Young. If OG comparison, Mitch Richmond.

He has high motor on offense.
Best in this draft.

Hard not to see his shooting not improve. And if his shooting improves, what’s stopping him from being someone like Devin Booker?

Btw his footwork is so advanced. If you’re watching clips, look at his foot. Thats why he’s getting separation and is drawing fouls.

Is Cam Thomas 6”4.5 and 220+ Pounds and move likes a freight train?

Quote “My numbers.” Please throw out the hypothetical paper and watch full games. Slow mos etc.

Dude eye test takes over after all the stats are accounted for.

None of us are scouts here, and hindsight is a massive cop out.

The draft boards do about as well as the mock drafts with sneaky caveats in between. It’s actually a great hive mind there for years now. They picked up on very early with Simmons, Ingram, Tatum, Shai and a few bolters just off the top weeks before any major media outlet got wind of the prospect.
Legit had Ben covered from top to bottom in 2016 lol.

[76ciology]

Cam Thomas' youtube reminds me of Edwards' from last year

You mean anthony edwards? Yup, both are inefficient scorers in college. My numbers say Edwards is nowhere as good as Cam Thomas on offense.

Cam Thomas reminds me of Michael Redd and Nick Young. If OG comparison, Mitch Richmond.

He has high motor on offense.
Best in this draft.

Hard not to see his shooting not improve. And if his shooting improves, what’s stopping him from being someone like Devin Booker?

Btw his footwork is so advanced. If you’re watching clips, look at his foot. Thats why he’s getting separation and is drawing fouls.

Is Cam Thomas 6”4.5 and 220+ Pounds and move likes a freight train?

Quote “My numbers.” Please throw out the hypothetical paper and watch full games. Slow mos etc.

Dude eye test takes over after all the stats are accounted for.

None of us are scouts here, and hindsight is a massive cop out.

The draft boards do about as well as the mock drafts with sneaky caveats in between. It’s actually a great hive mind there for years now. They picked up on very early with Simmons, Ingram, Tatum, Shai and a few bolters just off the top weeks before any major media outlet got wind of the prospect.
Legit had Ben covered from top to bottom in 2016 lol.

Im not just looking at numbers. Like I said, the way i look at the draft I look at both numbers and clips.

Cam Thomas is advanced already as an scorer for a freshman. He has more advanced footwork than even Tobias lol He has the foundations to be a lot better.

He has a really high chance to be as good as guys like Booker, Beal or Lavine as scorers.

I read somewhere that he has one of the highest ppg for a freshman, and most in that list turns out to be stars (Fultz included though).

[DCasey91]

Watch Wendall Carter Jr will have a better career then Marvin Bagley relative to their respective draft spots. Stats and video clips only go so far. Why might you say? Wendall looked more adaptable for NBA.

[Mik317]

Watch Wendall Carter Jr will have a better career then Marvin Bagley relative to their respective draft spots. Stats and video clips only go so far. Why might you say? Wendall looked more adaptable for NBA.

I don't think this was a stretch even at the time of the draft. WCJ was one of those draft favorites that year whereas Bagley was kinda always seen as mid. People were selling Bagley as Amare with good knees and I was like wat

[76ciology]

Watch Wendall Carter Jr will have a better career then Marvin Bagley relative to their respective draft spots. Stats and video clips only go so far. Why might you say? Wendall looked more adaptable for NBA.

We can’t see the future. But the trend of the game is favoring Bagley. So for me, he’s more adaptable

Both are not proven shooter. But Bagley made 34% on almost 2.5 attempts per game, it could be a breakthrough if he keep it up. Bagley is switchable on offense and he can catch lobs. Two aspects that is highly valued in the NBA.

As prospects, Bagley got better numbers and game is also more adaptable to his tools and skillset.

What are top things you need from a big nowadays:
- step out to defend close out and PnR defense
- switch-ability on defense
- being a pogo stick in catching lobs
- spot up

^ i think Bagley is better than WCJ is all of those

[76ciology]

Good on eyetest but really bad numbers.

Ziaire Williams.
BJ Boston

[Mik317]

Bagley can't switch on defense tho. AND isn't the shot blocker to make up for it. Also mad injury prone.

WCJ is the same tho lol so who knows

[Stanford]

WCJ was one of those draft favorites that year whereas Bagley was kinda always seen as mid.

I only watch the YouTube and peep the stattys, and I liked WCJ more than Bagley that year

[76ciology]

Bagley can't switch on defense tho. AND isn't the shot blocker to make up for it. Also mad injury prone.

WCJ is the same tho lol so who knows

I think Bagley is more switchable. He’s more mobile, quicker and more athletic. It’s just he needs more playing time and play in a better system. You need a good scheme to run a switch heavy defense.

If WCJ is better at switching now, I still think Bagley will eventually be better at switching.

That’s how i look at things

[Kobblehead]

Good on eyetest but really bad numbers.

Ziaire Williams.
BJ Boston

Both need more time in school to work on their scoring.

[Kobblehead]

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Should throw Josh Christopher on that list, too.

[Monix]

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why would he not put the stat that he references (3pt rate) in his tweet?

he lists percentage and gives indication that he may not even understand what he's tweeting about

[Stanford]

he lists percentage and gives indication that he may not even understand what he's tweeting about

I had the same issue. These percentages could be on half an attempt per game for all I know.

[Monix]

he tweets "volume" which likely indicates the volume of 3PA or the rate that they launch them which I have heard as an indicator of shooting potential

in his chart he lists their college 3PT% made - in such a rush to generate "content" that he just farts out nonsensical drivel

[Kobblehead]

He probably rushed the volume point into the tweet so he could include Cam Thomas in the grouping.

His overarching point of guys with good free throw percentages generally have a good chance to develop a good three point shot at the next level is pretty well-known, at this point.

[Kobblehead]

https://www.al.com/alabamabasketball/2021/07/alabama-leading-scorer-withdraws-from-nba-draft-still-in-portal.html

Damn, one of my guys pulled out of the draft.

[DCasey91]

Top 5 for each pick:

28.
1. Josh Christopher
2. Tre Mann
3. Chris Duarte
4. Roko Prkacin
5. Trey Murphy III

50.
1. Isiah Todd
2. Joe Weiskamp
3. EJ Onu
4. Vrenz Bleijenbergh
5. Aaron Henry

Swing and swing hard!

[Negrodamus]

Guys at 28:
- Tre Mann (I highly doubt it)
- Chris Duarte
- Roko Prkacin
- Josh Christopher (if he is really there on the day then the draft picks itself imo)
- Trey Murphy III

Pick 50:
- Joe Weiskamp (Mocked at 54 on ESPN)
- David Johnson
- Jason Preston
- Isiah Todd

Top 5 for each pick:

28.
1. Josh Christopher
2. Tre Mann
3. Chris Duarte
4. Roko Prkacin
5. Trey Murphy III

50.
1. Isiah Todd
2. Joe Weiskamp
3. EJ Onu
4. Vrenz Bleijenbergh
5. Aaron Henry

Swing and swing hard!

My man, nothing has changed in the .5 days that occurred between messages, lol.