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MVP1992 wrote:76ciology wrote:
KD
Harris
Royce ONeal
KD
Drummond
Would be better IMO
How about I raise you a KD:
Kyrie
KD
KD
KD
Drummond
76ciology wrote:
mjkvol wrote:76ciology wrote:
Wagner will end up being the steal of that draft. The Magic would have been justified picking him 5th instead of Suggs.
76ciology wrote:We have a saying in our country that “if you want to eat, you need to know how to wipe your mouth”.
Difference between OKC is they know the art of tanking while on the other hand, we are just too blatant.
We created too much noise. There’s no gimmick like a Spencer Hawes farewell tour or something.
When OKC tanked, there’s some guy to watch the games for. Whether its a prospect like Poku or Giddey or a vet like LuDort or Favors.
When Sixers tanked..
Personally, I dont have any issues with tanking. But you need to have a balance.
You can’t have 5 teams who are tanking that have filled with nobodys on their roster, playing a combined 410 non competitive and sub standard games that their non tanking opponents would also sit out guys and make it totally unwatchable.
And lastly, Presti looks like he knows basketball than Hinkie, just by his draft record.
Some say im a bias homer.
I also used to defend Hinkie on GB.
But looking at the rearview mirror, I find that the league intervening was justifiable.
76ciology wrote:We have a saying in our country that “if you want to eat, you need to know how to wipe your mouth”.
Difference between OKC is they know the art of tanking while on the other hand, we are just too blatant.
We created too much noise. There’s no gimmick like a Spencer Hawes farewell tour or something.
When OKC tanked, there’s some guy to watch the games for. Whether its a prospect like Poku or Giddey or a vet like LuDort or Favors.
When Sixers tanked..
Personally, I dont have any issues with tanking. But you need to have a balance.
You can’t have 5 teams who are tanking that have filled with nobodys on their roster, playing a combined 410 non competitive and sub standard games that their non tanking opponents would also sit out guys and make it totally unwatchable.
And lastly, Presti looks like he knows basketball than Hinkie, just by his draft record.
Some say im a bias homer.
I also used to defend Hinkie on GB.
But looking at the rearview mirror, I find that the league intervening was justifiable.
Sixerscan wrote:They changed some stuff where it doesn’t make sense to do what Hinkie did anyway at this point. They added 60 2 way contracts so there are fewer guys with potential available to churn through. Flattened the lotto odds. Closed up the cap floor loophole that Hinkie probably saved a lot of money doing.
The biggest weirdness I find with all that is people just act like Embiid was always supposed to miss 2 years. If he plays that second year they’re probably in the acceptable bad range.
Sixerscan wrote:They changed some stuff where it doesn’t make sense to do what Hinkie did anyway at this point. They added 60 2 way contracts so there are fewer guys with potential available to churn through. Flattened the lotto odds. Closed up the cap floor loophole that Hinkie probably saved a lot of money doing.
The biggest weirdness I find with all that is people just act like Embiid was always supposed to miss 2 years. If he plays that second year they’re probably in the acceptable bad range.
Embiid P wrote:So the Rockets just released Derrick Favors. Any chance Morey signs him?
76ciology wrote:Regarding Colangelo, his biggest F’d up was drafting Ben Simmons. And Ben Simmons was the biggest hurdle for the entire process era prior to Morey’s arrival.
I think drafting Ben was worst. Because BC didn’t learn from Hinkie’s mistakes in drafting guards who can’t shoot and just blindly following the consensus BPA in the draft. Rumor has it that Hinkie was favoring Ingram, and he could have turned it around.
Altho if Fultz never got hurt, we might have been OK. With Fultz playing to his upside to what this Harden version is right now. While still having Roco and Ben at the wings.
And when Fultz didnt pan out. Brand had two opportunities that he missed. First was trading Ben for Kawhi then next is choosing Ben over Jimmy (as per Embiid). The loss from acquiring Ben to holding Ben just compounded.
We’re just lucky that Morey looks to have turned it around.
For now, I’m with the “all of them failed except for Morey” side.
Murray_17 wrote:76ciology wrote:Regarding Colangelo, his biggest F’d up was drafting Ben Simmons. And Ben Simmons was the biggest hurdle for the entire process era prior to Morey’s arrival.
I think drafting Ben was worst. Because BC didn’t learn from Hinkie’s mistakes in drafting guards who can’t shoot and just blindly following the consensus BPA in the draft. Rumor has it that Hinkie was favoring Ingram, and he could have turned it around.
Altho if Fultz never got hurt, we might have been OK. With Fultz playing to his upside to what this Harden version is right now. While still having Roco and Ben at the wings.
And when Fultz didnt pan out. Brand had two opportunities that he missed. First was trading Ben for Kawhi then next is choosing Ben over Jimmy (as per Embiid). The loss from acquiring Ben to holding Ben just compounded.
We’re just lucky that Morey looks to have turned it around.
For now, I’m with the “all of them failed except for Morey” side.
Ainge decided not to draft Fultz, already, after his tryout with Boston was a disaster. Everyone outside of Colangelo put the red lights on him because all his tryout were reportedly bad.
This is basically re-writing history, Colangelo made several moves that were a disaster, the Grant trade? the first and the second he used to get Pasecniks? using Okafor as a way to reduce the salary of the team (yeah there wasn't much to get from Okafor but still)? not to mention the pick used in that trade ended up being the first pick in the second round.
You can argue he improved the team when he added Illyasova and Belinelli. But he got Illyasova back after he traded him for the corpse of Splitter and a pick (which make the Grant trade, even more, lol worthy), and both Belinelli and Illyasova were let got the next off-season because he already was cleaning cap to max Ben.
And this is without even touching the Twitter stuff.
Fultz is a franchise lead guard, future All-Star, and a player any organization can build around. He's best utilized on the ball with shooting around him, as he's a tremendous pick and roll player (30.4% of his offense, 93rd percentile) who can score at all three levels and facilitate with creativity. He's no slouch off the ball either, as he's a capable, yet improving, spot shooter and excellent playing off of closeouts. Fultz also has the size and length to defend twos, and even some threes in smaller lineups. All in all, he's a versatile, plug and play lead guard with star potential who is easy to build around or fit into a current roster. - Source: http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Markelle-Fultz-90302/ ©DraftExpress
