Sixers Offseason Thread Part 3

[LessMorey]

I have no idea what Morey is planning. I don't think cap space next summer makes sense for a few reasons. You'd be punting your best remaining year of Harden and Embiid. Also, it's difficult to get any reasonable cap space once you factor in Maxey's $13 million cap hold, Bball Paul's contract, Harden's potential deal, and Melton needing to be paid.

Let's assume we only have Embiid, Tucker, Springer, Bball ($5 million), & Springer on the books next summer. That's $84 million without factoring in Melton, Tobias, or Harden. The cap this coming season is $136 million. If they extend Melton for $16 million/year you don't even have max cap space left and you'd be letting Tobias and Harden walk for free.

I wouldn't be surprised if he trades Harden to the Clippers for two firsts, expirings, and Mann. Then flips one of our 1sts, one of the Clippers 1st, Maxey, and Tobias for Dame.

Dame
Melton
Mann
Tucker
Embiid

is a pretty damn good team. Consolidating Maxey & Harden into Mann & Dame makes some sense. It's hard to fit Harden & Embiid with Maxey once he gets a new deal. I just don't see how we trade for someone like Lavine. The money doesn't add up. Consolidating is something Morey likes doing. It makes sense on court and also for the cap.

[ProcessDoctor]

Thoughts on what Daryl has cooking?

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Jaylen Brown?

Tweet was deleted. Can you add context?

Weird it was from the apparent guy who knew a guy that was a source.

It's basically a video from Windy. Here it is posted from Sean Barnard.

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Holy tease batman.

[ProcessDoctor]

From Windy's comments, I don't think the move is Dame. I think our "interest" in Dame is merely to drive up the asking price for Miami.

Siakam or Jaylen? Jaylen hasn't signed his extension yet and Toronto has been awfully quiet.

[NYSixersFan]

Yea, I'm sure Morey has something going on with his hand

[eyeatoma]

OT, but LMFAO.

For those who can't read it on twitter.

"Never forget when coach Pop held a shooting contest during Team USA's minicamp and promised a car for the winner. James Harden won it and got himself a brand new toy car.

Classic Pop "

Then shows a picture of Harden looking dumbfounded with a toy car beside him.

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[eyeatoma]

Tweet was deleted. Can you add context?

Weird it was from the apparent guy who knew a guy that was a source.

It's basically a video from Windy. Here it is posted from Sean Barnard.

Read on Twitter

Holy tease batman.

Such a tease, my dick is hard now, and I'm blue balling...

[agiaco]

From Windy's comments, I don't think the move is Dame. I think our "interest" in Dame is merely to drive up the asking price for Miami.

Siakam or Jaylen? Jaylen hasn't signed his extension yet and Toronto has been awfully quiet.

Would love Jaylen on the Sixers

[NYSixersFan]

What big deal has Morey made in his career that didn't include getting Harden? CP3? then trading him for Westbrook? what else?

[the_process]

I have no idea what Morey is planning. I don't think cap space next summer makes sense for a few reasons. You'd be punting your best remaining year of Harden and Embiid. Also, it's difficult to get any reasonable cap space once you factor in Maxey's $13 million cap hold, Bball Paul's contract, Harden's potential deal, and Melton needing to be paid.

Let's assume we only have Embiid, Tucker, Springer, Bball ($5 million), & Springer on the books next summer. That's $84 million without factoring in Melton, Tobias, or Harden. The cap this coming season is $136 million. If they extend Melton for $16 million/year you don't even have max cap space left and you'd be letting Tobias and Harden walk for free.

I wouldn't be surprised if he trades Harden to the Clippers for two firsts, expirings, and Mann. Then flips one of our 1sts, one of the Clippers 1st, Maxey, and Tobias for Dame.

Dame
Melton
Mann
Tucker
Embiid

is a pretty damn good team. Consolidating Maxey & Harden into Mann & Dame makes some sense. It's hard to fit Harden & Embiid with Maxey once he gets a new deal. I just don't see how we trade for someone like Lavine. The money doesn't add up. Consolidating is something Morey likes doing. It makes sense on court and also for the cap.

Except all reports are the Clippers aren't interested in offering nearly that much. And the other reports that Dame to Miami is almost done.

There's no obvious trade out trade other than LaVine.

[youngcrev]

So we're running it back? Yay.

[LessMorey]

I have no idea what Morey is planning. I don't think cap space next summer makes sense for a few reasons. You'd be punting your best remaining year of Harden and Embiid. Also, it's difficult to get any reasonable cap space once you factor in Maxey's $13 million cap hold, Bball Paul's contract, Harden's potential deal, and Melton needing to be paid.

Let's assume we only have Embiid, Tucker, Springer, Bball ($5 million), & Springer on the books next summer. That's $84 million without factoring in Melton, Tobias, or Harden. The cap this coming season is $136 million. If they extend Melton for $16 million/year you don't even have max cap space left and you'd be letting Tobias and Harden walk for free.

I wouldn't be surprised if he trades Harden to the Clippers for two firsts, expirings, and Mann. Then flips one of our 1sts, one of the Clippers 1st, Maxey, and Tobias for Dame.

Dame
Melton
Mann
Tucker
Embiid

is a pretty damn good team. Consolidating Maxey & Harden into Mann & Dame makes some sense. It's hard to fit Harden & Embiid with Maxey once he gets a new deal. I just don't see how we trade for someone like Lavine. The money doesn't add up. Consolidating is something Morey likes doing. It makes sense on court and also for the cap.

Except all reports are the Clippers aren't interested in offering nearly that much. And the other reports that Dame to Miami is almost done.

There's no obvious trade out trade other than LaVine.

Trading for Harden makes sense for the Clippers. They don't have enough at the moment.

The Clippers are just negotiating. They'd put Mann and at least a first in the deal if it got it done.

[Stanford]

So we're running it back? Yay.

With a worse roster but a better coach.

[Stanford]

Their packages are trash

I don't think it matters. The Heat are likely to get a sweetheart deal. It's going to suck, but it is what it is. Dame doesn't have a NTC but he's adamant about his destination. I doubt another GM would risk a lot to acquire him. Morey is an exception but we don't have the assets.

[Skates]

At this point next summer they would have Embiid, Tucker's player option (seriously, retire Dude), Springer, Maxey's low cap hold since he was a pick in the 20's and whatever we give Reed. Melton would not be an extension, but would have to be signed in FA to keep his cap hold low until he is signed, but we would have Bird rights I believe on him.

The idea of cap space may be real and may be a trade tactic to say we have leverage with Harden and Harris because their expiring means something positive next year. Daryl won't tell us till he pulls the trigger one way or another. Either way I don't see Harden playing here past this year, he either gets traded this year, signed and traded next summer or renounced.

If this is a run it back year for real, the losses are Niang, Milton, McDaniels and Dedmon from last year. None played big minutes in the playoffs, or in Niang's case, effective ones.

Milton's role is replaceable between Springer and Beverly, Bamba is an upgrade on what was left of Dedmon. Need a bench scorer to replace Niang and a rangy young big to replace McDaniels. If you add that, the team is essentially equal to last year's team with Nurse as coach and hoping for another step for Maxey and rotation playability for Springer. Assuming Harden doesn't try to play fat James, it is a reasonable run it back scenario. Do I want it? Not really. Do I think it happens? 50/50 either way.

I have a sneaking suspicion in all of this that if we trade Harden this year, Siakam is the eventual target (because no former Rockets left, let's get former Raptors). Trading Harden for Mann, expirings and some firsts would be a punting this year unless we turn the assets into something like Siakam, or Derozan/Caruso this year.

[the_process]

So which wings will take a one year vet minimum, since that is the price we are willing to pay?

Louis King is worth a Hinkie special IMO, but there must be some vet wings at that price with a last name that starts with B to go with Beverly and Bamba on the B Team.

I’m thinking there’s a chance to get Kelly Oubre for vet min. There’s a clear path for him to start here.

Yep, I could see that. Even more coaching for Nurse though because Oubre is a dunce.

[Jailblazers7]

If Morey is cooking up something my best guess is that we bring Toronto in as a 3rd team in the Clippers deal & we reroute Terrance Mann & Tobias for Siakim.

Sixers get Siakim/Morris/Powell/Roco/Thad Young
Clippers get Harden/Tucker
Raptors get Harris/Mann/2 Clippers 1sts

[Stanford]

Raptor fans are saying Okongwu, Griffin and a first for Siakim. Can we beat that without Maxey? I'd be surprised.

[ProcessDoctor]

If Morey is cooking up something my best guess is that we bring Toronto in as a 3rd team in the Clippers deal & we reroute Terrance Mann & Tobias for Siakim.

Sixers get Siakim/Morris/Powell/Roco/Thad Young
Clippers get Harden/Tucker
Raptors get Harris/Mann/2 Clippers 1sts

Lol was just thinking exactly this but we get Mann and Thad stays in Toronto. Possibly send a protected 1st or swap to Toronto as well.

Maxey/Melton/Beverley
Powell/Springer/Korkmaz
Covington/Mann/House
Siakam/Morris/Petrusev
Embiid/Reed/Bamba

[spikeslovechild]

Their packages are trash

I don't think it matters. The Heat are likely to get a sweetheart deal. It's going to suck, but it is what it is. Dame doesn't have a NTC but he's adamant about his destination. I doubt another GM would risk a lot to acquire him. Morey is an exception but we don't have the assets.

I mean it really depends on how uncomfortable the FO is willing to get. They can communicate to him he either plays for the Blazers or gives them a list of teams.

He isn't in the last year of his deal he doesn't have the leverage to force his way to a specific team unless the blazers allow him to.

[spikeslovechild]

Raptor fans are saying Okongwu, Griffin and a first for Siakim. Can we beat that without Maxey? I'd be surprised.

Siakam had a pretty public falling out with Nurse are we sure he wants to come here or would be willing to sign an extension?