***Sixerfan1976 Official Thread - Update Page 28***

ZarcMumoff · Post #1 » by **ZarcMumoff** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:03 am

SF76 deserves his own thread if he's going to be posting around here often the next few days...not to mention, this means I won't have to go through other threads to find his stuff

51X3RF4N · Post #2 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:08 am

Can you post his latest update as well?

ZarcMumoff · Post #3 » by **ZarcMumoff** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:09 am

51X3RF4N wrote:Can you post his latest update as well?

What do you mean? Like in the thread title like what page it's on? Will do.

76ciology · Post #4 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:18 am

Sixers1976,

When is the trade going down? What is holding back the trade? Who are we going to draft? A PF/C or a Shooter? Give us something we don't know.

I appreciate you breaking the news of the Kaman-Iguodala deal. But honestly, we sort of knew it for almost a week or so already.

Thanks!

51X3RF4N · Post #5 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:18 am

No I mean like copy it and put it in this thread so we know what's goin on without having to search..LOL

Isn't that the point of giving the guy his own thread? Put his update in here and we can start talking bout it.

Thx!!

Cru Thik · Post #6 » by **Cru Thik** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:25 am

I thought he was done no more sources.

sixerfan1976 · Post #7 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:26 am

76ciology wrote:Sixers1976,

When is the trade going down? What is holding back the trade? Who are we going to draft? A PF/C or a Shooter? Give us something we don't know.

I appreciate you breaking the news of the Kaman-Iguodala deal. But honestly, we sort of knew it for almost a week or so already.

Thanks!

Billy likes to drink soda, Miss Lippy's car is green.

GoSixersBro · Post #8 » by **GoSixersBro** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:28 am

sixerfan1976 wrote:
76ciology wrote:Sixers1976,

When is the trade going down? What is holding back the trade? Who are we going to draft? A PF/C or a Shooter? Give us something we don't know.

I appreciate you breaking the news of the Kaman-Iguodala deal. But honestly, we sort of knew it for almost a week or so already.

Thanks!

Billy likes to drink soda, Miss Lippy's car is green.

I see what you did there.

sixerfan1976 · Post #9 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:33 am

as i said yesterday...i dont expect to hear anything more than what i posted yesterday....i am just here to hang out.....if that changes i will let you know but i dont think it will......

i think they draft vucevic in first round unless a guy in projected top 7-8 falls that they like

i think its a SG/SF in round 2 wherever they pick

i think we deal with lac unless something else comes along more enticing of which i have heard nothing.

monta deal would only happen if the warriors kept biedrins.....to which they were balking

i got nothing more...like i said i wouldnt......i am just here as a fan for next few days.......in all likelihood

51X3RF4N · Post #10 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:35 am

Rok? R-o-k?

R-O-C-K!

OH the C is silent!

51X3RF4N · Post #11 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:48 am

Thx for the updates as usual SF.

I hope the LAC deal is Kaman/Aminu/#37 for Iggy/Speights without #50 or Warren. I'm not interested in Willie Green 2.0.

Although I will say I think the Sixers NEED a scorer at the SG/SF spot and not one from the 2nd round of this draft.

Jrue
ET
Aminu

Just doesn't cut it offensively. Even adding Thad in there isn't enough IMO. Vucevic is nice and IMO could be a guy that gets 18-20ppg from the PF spot. Others will disagree, but I think he has the skills and jump shot, with the right amount of touches he could light it up. But I want to see that wing with deadly scoring instinct. And I'd package Lou/Aminu/#37/#50 to try and move up or get a current player.

Jrue/Turner
ET/Meeks
Scorer/Thad
Brand/Vucevic
Kaman/Hawes

That's not half bad, when Kaman is gone, you draft a Center to replace him, preferably a defensive minded one. When Brand is gone, Vucevic takes over full time in a scoring PF role. And you have a TON of minutes for Jrue/ET now and you can see if they got it or not.

Sixerlover · Post #12 » by **Sixerlover** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:49 am

sixerfan1976 wrote:as i said yesterday...i dont expect to hear anything more than what i posted yesterday....i am just here to hang out.....if that changes i will let you know but i dont think it will......

i think they draft vucevic in first round unless a guy in projected top 7-8 falls that they like

i think its a SG/SF in round 2 wherever they pick

i think we deal with lac unless something else comes along more enticing of which i have heard nothing.

monta deal would only happen if the warriors kept biedrins.....to which they were balking

i got nothing more...like i said i wouldnt......i am just here as a fan for next few days.......in all likelihood

cool. Appreciate everything of course

I guess if your dealing Iguodala for Cap Space / Aminu then Vucevic would be a solid pick seeing as he's the biggest guy you can possibly draft, and I'm not really a big Tyler fan, but I'd almost still rather have Hamilton over Aminu. I guess my bias against him at Wake Forest has transferred to the NBA.

51X3RF4N · Post #13 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:52 am

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I guess if your dealing Iguodala for Cap Space / Aminu then Vucevic would be a solid pick seeing as he's the biggest guy you can possibly draft, and I'm not really a big Tyler fan, but I'd almost still rather have Hamilton over Aminu. I guess my bias against him at Wake Forest has transferred to the NBA.[/quote]

Even though word from Sixers brass has consistently been that is not their intention..what a bunch of a-holes. They are gonna make it seem like Kaman is an All-Star Center coming back in return and combined with Brand will help the Sixers compete with the Heat...ridiculous.

sixerfan1976 · Post #14 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:56 am

they arent that naive.....they will get a veteran player who fills a position of need...a young lottery pick from last year who they expect to compete for a starting spot....and/or a pick upgrade....or scoring guard.

they know this deal doesnt get them up there with the heat....but they arent worse off in my opinion.....to improve upon their 41 wins from last year..you need kaman to stay healthy and aminu to take a step fwd(and of course turner)

Sixerlover · Post #15 » by **Sixerlover** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:57 am

51X3RF4N wrote:
I guess if your dealing Iguodala for Cap Space / Aminu then Vucevic would be a solid pick seeing as he's the biggest guy you can possibly draft, and I'm not really a big Tyler fan, but I'd almost still rather have Hamilton over Aminu. I guess my bias against him at Wake Forest has transferred to the NBA.

Even though word from Sixers brass has consistently been that is not their intention..what a bunch of a-holes. They are gonna make it seem like Kaman is an All-Star Center coming back in return and combined with Brand will help the Sixers compete with the Heat...ridiculous.

Basically.

Saying the whole time they aren't looking for a salary dump for Iguodala, then the reasoning on Kaman will be *He'll be a good center for the season to help, then his contract expires, so we'll have the flexibility to evaluate where to go from there*.... So he's a salary dump.

But hey, I guess that's what happens when you place yourself in a position with not a lot of options to improve. Hopefully once Kaman / Brand come off the books they can start fresh and get the chance right this time!

51X3RF4N · Post #16 » by **51X3RF4N** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 3:58 am

Still not sure why we are going after Aminu. I mean I know he's only 20 (almost 21) and he has potential, but the draft sites and experts were saying worst case he's Thad Young and best case Josh Smith.

Has he shown the ability to be even close to Thad in the NBA yet? I just don't see it in him.

But again, spin doctors will say now the Sixers have the 2nd and 8th pick from last year, blah blah.

Here is out salary dump of a top 3 perimeter defender in the NBA, and we get back a 1 year rental of an oft-injured Center who, if healthy, will only help the Sixers stay OUT of the lottery and another 1st round loss. Oh, but we get a 20 year old who has shown nothing but bust potential, and he's gonna be a starter replacing Iggy!! Don't forget that 2nd round pick! lol...Sorry guys. I'm thinking negadelphian.

I like the deal because ultimately I want ET to get more minutes and Iggy to go away, plus the salary flexibility is a sign towards a rebuild. Which hopefully they continue, and not just try a "retool". But it isn't what I expected from an Iggy deal and the Sixers would still be lacking a scoring threat in the starting lineup, which frustrates me beyond belief.

76ciology · Post #17 » by **76ciology** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:12 am

Let's say you replace Iguodala with a Pietrus type defensive wingman. And you replace Hawes with a better shotblocker and rebounder in Kaman. I think you'd have a better defensive squad than what we had with Iggy and Hawes at the SF and C position.

These days, because of some rule change, a team's defensive strength is determined at the PF/C position. And the upgrade of the useless Hawes to Kaman will be pretty significant.

With that said, I don't think there will be any drop-off with our defense without Iggy. But again, we will not know it till next season.

sixerfan1976 · Post #18 » by **sixerfan1976** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:14 am

the concern is scoring if iguodala goes but its not like he was a huge scorer anyway. we wont be a high scoring bunch but not necessarily worse than last year is the way that i look at it. still gonna need balance on a nightly basis

ZarcMumoff · Post #19 » by **ZarcMumoff** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:16 am

51X3RF4N wrote:No I mean like copy it and put it in this thread so we know what's goin on without having to search..LOL

Isn't that the point of giving the guy his own thread? Put his update in here and we can start talking bout it.

Thx!!

Well he would post on his own in this thread, lol.

Skates · Post #20 » by **Skates** » Wed Jun 22, 2011 4:18 am

Defensively the upgrade from Hawes to Kaman is not much of an upgrade and might be a downgrade. Kaman is known around the league as a terrbile defensive player. Even before he got hurt and was scoring more there was talk of moving him because he gave up more than he scored. Kaman might block a shot or two here or there, but don't kid yourself, he is no kind of defensive whiz or even an average defender. After the injuries he can only be worse.

Aminu is being offered because that is the only young asset they have to trade. He does not play a position of need, but has some potential.

Kaman's biggest value would come as an expiring contract at next year's deadline. I would still draft a big this year even if we get Kaman.