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So this is where I'm a bit torn. On one hand nothing would be sweeter than to get our first victory of the season against our most hated rivals, but on the other hand, it would also be great to subject them to eternal mediocrity like we were for so many years before Hinkie. Decisions decisions.

What the hell? Beat the C's and let them beat up on other teams to stay mediocre.

I want a win tonight.

I'm predicting a win tonight. As bad as our team is, we match up very well with the Celtics.

I will be going to this game and hopefully watching us get our first W tonight. Also, **** evan turner

Someone on the Celtics board wrote that 3 of our 5 wins in the past 50 games came against the Celtics. I still remember vividly the game when Turner hit the buzzer beater in Beantown before we embarked on the losing streak. I was damn pissed since we miraculously won lots of close games, something we were not able to do in the previous years.

Anyway, I want a win as well. Don't want to lose too many games as this would indicate that our players - even those who are supposed to be our building blocks - are wack. So it would be nice if MCW leads us to a win, with a nice contribution from Noel.

I'd love to see them get their first win at home. This is their best shot to do it!

cant wait for this game tonight, but mostly so I can watch Rondo play. he's still my favorite point guard in the NBA and honestly Im quite perplexed as to why he is on the celtics.

Evan Turner is going to be asking me whether I want a soup or salad at TGI Fridays by this time next year

underpressure wrote:Someone on the Celtics board wrote that 3 of our 5 wins in the past 50 games came against the Celtics. I still remember vividly the game when Turner hit the buzzer beater in Beantown before we embarked on the losing streak. I was damn pissed since we miraculously won lots of close games, something we were not able to do in the previous years.

Anyway, I want a win as well. Don't want to lose too many games as this would indicate that our players - even those who are supposed to be our building blocks - are wack. So it would be nice if MCW leads us to a win, with a nice contribution from Noel.

Whether they win or lose, doesn't mean they are wack. Its the skills and talent that each of them display that makes them wack (or good). A couple wins doesn't give a guy the ability to catch a pass, improve his footwork or improve his handle.

I can see Rondo going for a triple double, i just hope we can contain him.
This is a game we can win and i want to win so fukin bad!!
Lets Go Sixers!!

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we aren't going to win

LloydFree wrote:

underpressure wrote:Someone on the Celtics board wrote that 3 of our 5 wins in the past 50 games came against the Celtics. I still remember vividly the game when Turner hit the buzzer beater in Beantown before we embarked on the losing streak. I was damn pissed since we miraculously won lots of close games, something we were not able to do in the previous years.

Anyway, I want a win as well. Don't want to lose too many games as this would indicate that our players - even those who are supposed to be our building blocks - are wack. So it would be nice if MCW leads us to a win, with a nice contribution from Noel.

Whether they win or lose, doesn't mean they are wack. Its the skills and talent that each of them display that makes them wack (or good). A couple wins doesn't give a guy the ability to catch a pass, improve his footwork or improve his handle.

If we end up being the worst team in NBA history (the jury is still out), I doubt whether MCW and Noel are the impact players we hope they will become one day. Good players will find a way to win games, with or without good teammates. So in a sense it matters, if we lose in a historically bad fashion or if we lose, yet play competitively.

Turner is going to drop 50 with a dribble dribble fadeaway gamewinner.

underpressure wrote:If we end up being the worst team in NBA history (the jury is still out), I doubt whether MCW and Noel are the impact players we hope they will become one day. Good players will find a way to win games, with or without good teammates. So in a sense it matters, if we lose in a historically bad fashion or if we lose, yet play competitively.

Dwayne Wade' won 15 games in 2007 after turning Super Saiyin on the Mavs. Kevin love has won below 20 games twice in his career. Boogie's whole career and Kyrie's entire career they've won a staggeringly low number of games. The narrative that good players find a way to win no matter what is complete crap. Good players on good teams find a way to win.

You can't expect a sophomore and a rookie to prove their worth when their complementary pieces can't complete rudimentary basketball tasks consistently. Judging possible key pieces when they are early in their development and playing on one of the worst NBA teams in history is short sighted at best.

underpressure wrote:

LloydFree wrote:

underpressure wrote:Someone on the Celtics board wrote that 3 of our 5 wins in the past 50 games came against the Celtics. I still remember vividly the game when Turner hit the buzzer beater in Beantown before we embarked on the losing streak. I was damn pissed since we miraculously won lots of close games, something we were not able to do in the previous years.

Anyway, I want a win as well. Don't want to lose too many games as this would indicate that our players - even those who are supposed to be our building blocks - are wack. So it would be nice if MCW leads us to a win, with a nice contribution from Noel.

Whether they win or lose, doesn't mean they are wack. Its the skills and talent that each of them display that makes them wack (or good). A couple wins doesn't give a guy the ability to catch a pass, improve his footwork or improve his handle.

If we end up being the worst team in NBA history (the jury is still out), I doubt whether MCW and Noel are the impact players we hope they will become one day. Good players will find a way to win games, with or without good teammates. So in a sense it matters, if we lose in a historically bad fashion or if we lose, yet play competitively.

Well we're just arguing cause-and-effect. The ability to win games is due to the talent and skills you display. The win is meaningless. The important issues are whether Noel really has hands of stone or is it rust. Can Noel improve his footwork. Can McDaniels become even a mediocre ball handler. Can Tony Wroten slow his game down. Can MCW become a decent shooter. The wins are meaningless if those players can't fix those things.

A win would be nice, but if they just give me a MCW/Wroten/McDaniels/Noel/Sims lineup I'll be happy

Please win this one fellas.

MCW and Noel are starting tonight.

Sixersftw wrote:

underpressure wrote:If we end up being the worst team in NBA history (the jury is still out), I doubt whether MCW and Noel are the impact players we hope they will become one day. Good players will find a way to win games, with or without good teammates. So in a sense it matters, if we lose in a historically bad fashion or if we lose, yet play competitively.

Dwayne Wade' won 15 games in 2007 after turning Super Saiyin on the Mavs. Kevin love has won below 20 games twice in his career. Boogie's whole career and Kyrie's entire career they've won a staggeringly low number of games. The narrative that good players find a way to win no matter what is complete crap. Good players on good teams find a way to win.

You can't expect a sophomore and a rookie to prove their worth when their complementary pieces can't complete rudimentary basketball tasks consistently. Judging possible key pieces when they are early in their development and playing on one of the worst NBA teams in history is short sighted at best.

We play in a historically bad conference. Right now, we are in a position to become one of the worst, if not the worst NBA team in league history. None of your examples come close to our situation. Wade was already an established superstar by the time. Also, he missed 30 games of the 2007 season, so the Heat probably choose to tank. Boogie and Love play in the tough conference, Kyrie's Cavaliers were arguably not near as awful as the Sixers. Also, you just mentioned players that have already emerged as stars in this league. We don't know that yet about MCW and Noel. They may end up to be impact players as well, or they may become obscure players of a terrible team.

It is not about that we lose ton of games. As you remark, these guys did it as well. However, these teams were at least somewhat competitive, whereas our squad is just terrible to begin with. One reason may be that our supposed talents are not as good as we wish they are.

In general, you also get an idea of a player's trajectory after two or three years of playing (obviously, there are some outliers like Dragic, Billups and so on). I fully expect that MCW matures his game in the next couple of years. Then we may have a idea what we have got with MCW. So in a sense, it does matter how MCW performs this year and whether he can improve on his game. If he makes strides, this would also translate into more wins. For now, Noel gets a pass since bigs tend to develop longer.

The point is that it does matter to an extent if we are competitive (like in a couple of games this year) or best case, if we can even grab some wins.

Otherwise, I completely agree with LloydFree's post.

snoopdogg88 wrote:we aren't going to win

Not with that attitude we aren't!

Let's git this W.