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Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 3:18 pm
by Unbreakable99
Noel has been playing great. His trade value is at its peak right now.
Assuming Embiid ups his minutes next season and is not longer on minutes restriction and he plays about 34 minutes per night, Noel can probably only play a max of 20 minutes per night. I don't want to trade Noel and would be perfectly fine with paying him whatever and matching any offer. But right now Noel probably has his best trade value right now. I actually think we now can get a quality player for him.
Would you rather trade Noel now and get one of Powell or Ross or someone on that level who will be able to play many more minutes and give us a position of need or keep Noel for max or near max money and play about 15-20 minutes per night?
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 3:35 pm
by HartfordWhalers
Having read the poll options, I hope you have a job where you get paid by the word.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 3:38 pm
by LloydFree
Don't want Noel traded for anything, until Okafor is gone. Don't want to get stuck in a position where we have to play him significant minutes the next 3 years.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 3:48 pm
by Skates
I choose option C, trade Okafor.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 3:53 pm
by joyeuxnoel
noel is a great backup center and would start on many teams
unless we get a piece back for him that is valuable longterm, we're better off maxing him. Okafor has to go
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:01 pm
by underpressure
If Noel buys in and accept his role as the first big coming off the bench, then I am all for re-signing him. I don't think we would get nearly fair value for him. Powell or Ross won't cut it. Impactwise they are not close to Noel.
Still, in the great scheme of things, Noel and Okafor have to be moved at some point. We can't have 2 player with a max deal at 1 position when there are other places that need to be filled. But then again, we can invest into Noel while our rooks are still on friendly contracts.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:04 pm
by Sixerscan
I don't think Embiid is actually going to play 34 minutes per game. And I don't think he's gonna play in more than 70 games. There will be minutes for another center to play.
Keeping Noel allows you to be more cautious with Embiid, which will hopefully extend his career.
I'd take a good offer for him (IE not Powell) but I'd be perfectly happy going forward with him on the team as long as he is on board with what is going on.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:08 pm
by Ericb5
Sixerscan wrote:I don't think Embiid is actually going to play 34 minutes per game. And I don't think he's gonna play in more than 70 games. There will be minutes for another center to play.
Keeping Noel allows you to be more cautious with Embiid, which will hopefully extend his career.
I'd take a good offer for him (IE not Powell) but I'd be perfectly happy going forward with him on the team as long as he is on board with what is going on.
If we trade Okafor and sign Noel, and can't find enough minutes for him long term then he will be tradable. I think that a signed Noel has more trade value than the current Noel.
Just sign him, and go from there. I think we can find him 25-28 minutes a night pretty easily just by him sharing the floor with Embiid 4-5 minutes a half.
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Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:11 pm
by JojoSlimbiid
Would be extremely surprised to see either moved before Simmons comes back. I doubt the team does anything(even using Hollis spot) before he get's on the court just my gut feeling.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:13 pm
by sixers hoops
Ericb5 wrote:Sixerscan wrote:I don't think Embiid is actually going to play 34 minutes per game. And I don't think he's gonna play in more than 70 games. There will be minutes for another center to play.
Keeping Noel allows you to be more cautious with Embiid, which will hopefully extend his career.
I'd take a good offer for him (IE not Powell) but I'd be perfectly happy going forward with him on the team as long as he is on board with what is going on.
If we trade Okafor and sign Noel, and can't find enough minutes for him long term then he will be tradable. I think that a signed Noel has more trade value than the current Noel.
Just sign him, and go from there. I think we can find him 25-28 minutes a night pretty easily just by him sharing the floor with Embiid 4-5 minutes a half.
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I'd imagine it would be 15 minutes backup Center and 15 minutes with Embiid, if Embiid is logging 33 mpg.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:18 pm
by sixers hoops
Is Noel's value at its "peak"? He's only played over 12 minutes about 3 times this season. He was just getting DNP-CD until two weeks ago.
If they move Okafor and get him 25 per night, Id imagine his value could get much higher.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:23 pm
by Sixerscan
I think Embiid will average like 30, Noel could get the other 18 plus a quick 3 minute run with him each half (the way they did last night). That's 24, plus he'd play more on the nights Embiid is in foul trouble and like 35 the 10-15 games a year Embiid sits out.
It's not ideal, but it's something we can afford to do as long as so much of the team is still on rookie deals.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:24 pm
by Slizeezyc
His trade value is certainly not at its peak. It would have been at its peak after his rookie season he played. It will be higher than it is now at the deadline when the "final" offers come through, but I still wouldn't deal him at this point unless it's an actual good deal.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:27 pm
by sixers hoops
Sixerscan wrote:I think Embiid will average like 30, Noel could get the other 18 plus a quick 3 minute run with him each half (the way they did last night). That's 24, plus he'd play more on the nights Embiid is in foul trouble and like 35 the 10-15 games a year Embiid sits out.
It's not ideal, but it's something we can afford to do as long as so much of the team is still on rookie deals.
Even if he doesn't start, he is a great rotational piece. Having that defense, even when Embiid leaves the game, is quite a luxury.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:51 pm
by rzzzzz
i don't think Noel wants to play backup. if he's getting 30 minutes a game, along with a lucrative contract, it's possible he'd consider staying as an integral part of a contesting franchise. but we got so much talent at pf, and Holmes could easily cover 15 minutes a night of pure backup. still i hope Nerlens turns into the next Rodman and stays to do crazy good things for the team.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 4:56 pm
by ratrac
HartfordWhalers wrote:Having read the poll options, I hope you have a job where you get paid by the word.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 5:02 pm
by XDevilBoiX
I would keep Noel and trade Okafor. Embiid is not a sure bet to not get hurt again. If we trade Noel and Okafor and Embiid goes down, who is our center? I like having Noel as a backup and paying him 16mil a year shouldn't be a problem for the next 3-4 years. After that we can trade him once Embiid proves he is not injury prone.
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 5:31 pm
by Sportfan73
Noel is the ultimate embiid insurance.
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Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 5:52 pm
by Unbreakable99
HartfordWhalers wrote:Having read the poll options, I hope you have a job where you get paid by the word.
What is that supposed to mean?
Re: Noel's Trade Value is at its Highest Now
Posted: Sat Jan 7, 2017 6:16 pm
by Negrodamus
If Noel is starting to hit those mid range jumpers, then you keep Noel forever. He is an oddball player on offense and one of the most versatile defensive big men in the league. You can play him and Embiid together. I also believe you can add Simmons to that lineup too.