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Eyeamok wrote:No you don't think this time will be different? If all these blue collar jobs are being eliminated. Where do people who only have a blue collar aptitude or people who like to work with their hands go and do for a living? Adapt or die?

Secondly I am very apprehensive about the idea of kids learning how to code since elementary school. Schools can't even get the No child left behind program to work the way it was designed. Now we are going to ask elementary schools to teach coding. The better funded school districts and people that can afford private tutoring for their children will be fine. But what about the rest?

Unless we change our education system to be more like Finland (for example) there are going to be a lot more people left behind.

But like I always say. What do I know I'm always open to learn more.

Thanks for the video and very nice music. It puts you in a great mood.

Simmons25 wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:No you don't think this time will be different? If all these blue collar jobs are being eliminated. Where do people who only have a blue collar aptitude or people who like to work with their hands go and do for a living? Adapt or die?

Secondly I am very apprehensive about the idea of kids learning how to code since elementary school. Schools can't even get the No child left behind program to work the way it was designed. Now we are going to ask elementary schools to teach coding. The better funded school districts and people that can afford private tutoring for their children will be fine. But what about the rest?

Unless we change our education system to be more like Finland (for example) there are going to be a lot more people left behind.

But like I always say. What do I know I'm always open to learn more.

Thanks for the video and very nice music. It puts you in a great mood.

Not just blue collar but white collar as well and it has been happening for ages. I've worked in software engineering for the last 30 years mainly for government and mining industry and the changes I have seen in that time are huge.

We used to have guys and girls sitting there all day marking and reading huge batches of dot matrix printouts, typing out other peoples hand written letters and their jobs virtually disappeared the second our mainframe and internet arrived. By the mid 90s I helped develop one of the first internet websites for government for our Social Security department. The aim then was to cut down staff and time. In my local regional office when I worked there in the early 1990s we had around 100 staff. By the late 1990s it was around 20 staff.

Now in 2018 I am doing the same work. Architecting and developing systems... and with every new project before we are funded I am asked the same thing. "What is the return on investment and how many people can we let go if we automate this". If they get their money back within 5 years... they will more than likely spent the money to develop it.

As for the staff... the strongest and smartest survive. The older ones will gladly take a nice golden handshake and redundancy package, and the ones not old enough to retire or too old to get another job get re-deployed into another job. End of the day though it means less jobs available for younger people coming through.

It's sad but a reality of life and I think it is only going to get worse in the future. My old employer and mates in the mining industry and rolling out robotic trucks and trains.... and basically sacking drivers. That is mining... but in 10 years... 15 years... 20 years when automated driving on roads is common place... what are truck drivers, taxi drivers, couriers etc. going to do?

76ciology wrote:It's crazy if you believe in evolution that humans haven't evolve much unlike before (wild guess ) because of how comfortable life is right now. What they've done is doing their own extinction by polluting the planet and creating something that will eventually replace them.

Btw, are u from australia? Thus the ben simmons and mining connection

septahex wrote:I've got a job interview with the ATO tomorrow, wish me luck.

76ciology wrote:

septahex wrote:I've got a job interview with the ATO tomorrow, wish me luck.

Australia Taxation office?

76ciology wrote:

Simmons25 wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:No you don't think this time will be different? If all these blue collar jobs are being eliminated. Where do people who only have a blue collar aptitude or people who like to work with their hands go and do for a living? Adapt or die?

Secondly I am very apprehensive about the idea of kids learning how to code since elementary school. Schools can't even get the No child left behind program to work the way it was designed. Now we are going to ask elementary schools to teach coding. The better funded school districts and people that can afford private tutoring for their children will be fine. But what about the rest?

Unless we change our education system to be more like Finland (for example) there are going to be a lot more people left behind.

But like I always say. What do I know I'm always open to learn more.

Thanks for the video and very nice music. It puts you in a great mood.

Not just blue collar but white collar as well and it has been happening for ages. I've worked in software engineering for the last 30 years mainly for government and mining industry and the changes I have seen in that time are huge.

We used to have guys and girls sitting there all day marking and reading huge batches of dot matrix printouts, typing out other peoples hand written letters and their jobs virtually disappeared the second our mainframe and internet arrived. By the mid 90s I helped develop one of the first internet websites for government for our Social Security department. The aim then was to cut down staff and time. In my local regional office when I worked there in the early 1990s we had around 100 staff. By the late 1990s it was around 20 staff.

Now in 2018 I am doing the same work. Architecting and developing systems... and with every new project before we are funded I am asked the same thing. "What is the return on investment and how many people can we let go if we automate this". If they get their money back within 5 years... they will more than likely spent the money to develop it.

As for the staff... the strongest and smartest survive. The older ones will gladly take a nice golden handshake and redundancy package, and the ones not old enough to retire or too old to get another job get re-deployed into another job. End of the day though it means less jobs available for younger people coming through.

It's sad but a reality of life and I think it is only going to get worse in the future. My old employer and mates in the mining industry and rolling out robotic trucks and trains.... and basically sacking drivers. That is mining... but in 10 years... 15 years... 20 years when automated driving on roads is common place... what are truck drivers, taxi drivers, couriers etc. going to do?

It's crazy if you believe in evolution that humans haven't evolve much unlike before (wild guess ) because of how comfortable life is right now. What they've done is doing their own extinction by polluting the planet and creating something that will eventually replace them.

Btw, are u from australia? Thus the ben simmons and mining connection

Eyeamok wrote:

76ciology wrote:

Simmons25 wrote:
Not just blue collar but white collar as well and it has been happening for ages. I've worked in software engineering for the last 30 years mainly for government and mining industry and the changes I have seen in that time are huge.

We used to have guys and girls sitting there all day marking and reading huge batches of dot matrix printouts, typing out other peoples hand written letters and their jobs virtually disappeared the second our mainframe and internet arrived. By the mid 90s I helped develop one of the first internet websites for government for our Social Security department. The aim then was to cut down staff and time. In my local regional office when I worked there in the early 1990s we had around 100 staff. By the late 1990s it was around 20 staff.

Now in 2018 I am doing the same work. Architecting and developing systems... and with every new project before we are funded I am asked the same thing. "What is the return on investment and how many people can we let go if we automate this". If they get their money back within 5 years... they will more than likely spent the money to develop it.

As for the staff... the strongest and smartest survive. The older ones will gladly take a nice golden handshake and redundancy package, and the ones not old enough to retire or too old to get another job get re-deployed into another job. End of the day though it means less jobs available for younger people coming through.

It's sad but a reality of life and I think it is only going to get worse in the future. My old employer and mates in the mining industry and rolling out robotic trucks and trains.... and basically sacking drivers. That is mining... but in 10 years... 15 years... 20 years when automated driving on roads is common place... what are truck drivers, taxi drivers, couriers etc. going to do?

It's crazy if you believe in evolution that humans haven't evolve much unlike before (wild guess ) because of how comfortable life is right now. What they've done is doing their own extinction by polluting the planet and creating something that will eventually replace them.

Btw, are u from australia? Thus the ben simmons and mining connection

That robot tax and a universal wage can't be too far into the future. All these jobs get eliminated. Companies become leaner and make more profits. But who is going to buy all of the products? New modern day companies don't employee a lot of people the way they used to due to automation. Not everyone can be a blogger or sell your youtube idea for a billion and change. Something has to give.

And then there is globalization. A lot of politicians seemed to be worried about illegal immigrants taking jobs away, but these are usually jobs that American don't want. Yet there are no protections to stop companies from farming out good white collar jobs to companies overseas for pennies on the dollar. And these are the jobs that Americans want. Crazy times.

76ciology wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:

76ciology wrote:
It's crazy if you believe in evolution that humans haven't evolve much unlike before (wild guess ) because of how comfortable life is right now. What they've done is doing their own extinction by polluting the planet and creating something that will eventually replace them.

Btw, are u from australia? Thus the ben simmons and mining connection

That robot tax and a universal wage can't be too far into the future. All these jobs get eliminated. Companies become leaner and make more profits. But who is going to buy all of the products? New modern day companies don't employee a lot of people the way they used to due to automation. Not everyone can be a blogger or sell your youtube idea for a billion and change. Something has to give.

And then there is globalization. A lot of politicians seemed to be worried about illegal immigrants taking jobs away, but these are usually jobs that American don't want. Yet there are no protections to stop companies from farming out good white collar jobs to companies overseas for pennies on the dollar. And these are the jobs that Americans want. Crazy times.

My guess is human population will adjust.

I dont think it will be drastic and it should be at a slow pace. Tougher times wont encourage you to make a bigger family. Probably this is a way to decrease population through prosperity and not thru war.

Either that or we'll develop the world at a faster rate with the help of machines to accomodate the growing population.

On my point of view, the talented guys still got a lot of opportunities.

1.) thru the help of technology they get more exposure
2.) the top tier people gives them opportunity for them to expand

Remember that these top tier people want to diversify because they also know how competitive it is right now with the robots and internet.

I'm in the real estate industry and i find a lot of successful top tier people shift to be developers or investors. Nowadays, its easier and faster to build and sell things. While we all know that we need space and shelter just as how we need food.

Now if you find a tough time living these days, I discovered that living a simple life in the country side helps your well being.

If you go to europe or the country side, you see the locals being relaxed. They are less materialistic and more into family and nature.

It's the equivalent of Jahlil Okafor going to europe after finding the NBA is too fast for him. Hahaha

Here's also something to think about. I think we need to spend relative to what is in our tier of material things. If you look around, cheap things gets cheaper. And there's a lot of good quality cheap things out there.

Why do you have to spend on an iphone x or a $300 off white" tshirt when you can just buy an iphone 8 or a shirt at gap (h&m)?

Travelling is also a lot cheaper than before with the cheaper airfares and airbnb. While cafe and restaurants are at every corner fighting to get buyers.

I feel that eventually the value of money will decline with the improving quality of material things. That should make people spread the wealth at a better rate.

I hope everything i post here makes sense lol

Eyeamok wrote:

76ciology wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:
That robot tax and a universal wage can't be too far into the future. All these jobs get eliminated. Companies become leaner and make more profits. But who is going to buy all of the products? New modern day companies don't employee a lot of people the way they used to due to automation. Not everyone can be a blogger or sell your youtube idea for a billion and change. Something has to give.

And then there is globalization. A lot of politicians seemed to be worried about illegal immigrants taking jobs away, but these are usually jobs that American don't want. Yet there are no protections to stop companies from farming out good white collar jobs to companies overseas for pennies on the dollar. And these are the jobs that Americans want. Crazy times.

My guess is human population will adjust.

I dont think it will be drastic and it should be at a slow pace. Tougher times wont encourage you to make a bigger family. Probably this is a way to decrease population through prosperity and not thru war.

Either that or we'll develop the world at a faster rate with the help of machines to accomodate the growing population.

On my point of view, the talented guys still got a lot of opportunities.

1.) thru the help of technology they get more exposure
2.) the top tier people gives them opportunity for them to expand

Remember that these top tier people want to diversify because they also know how competitive it is right now with the robots and internet.

I'm in the real estate industry and i find a lot of successful top tier people shift to be developers or investors. Nowadays, its easier and faster to build and sell things. While we all know that we need space and shelter just as how we need food.

Now if you find a tough time living these days, I discovered that living a simple life in the country side helps your well being.

If you go to europe or the country side, you see the locals being relaxed. They are less materialistic and more into family and nature.

It's the equivalent of Jahlil Okafor going to europe after finding the NBA is too fast for him. Hahaha

Here's also something to think about. I think we need to spend relative to what is in our tier of material things. If you look around, cheap things gets cheaper. And there's a lot of good quality cheap things out there.

Why do you have to spend on an iphone x or a $300 off white" tshirt when you can just buy an iphone 8 or a shirt at gap (h&m)?

Travelling is also a lot cheaper than before with the cheaper airfares and airbnb. While cafe and restaurants are at every corner fighting to get buyers.

I feel that eventually the value of money will decline with the improving quality of material things. That should make people spread the wealth at a better rate.

I hope everything i post here makes sense lol

Population growth is going through the roof.
People want and buy so much (USA) in part because they are under consistent assault from marketing everywhere they turn.
I'm with you on the simple life. If only it was that simple to make it happen.

76ciology wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:

76ciology wrote:
My guess is human population will adjust.

I dont think it will be drastic and it should be at a slow pace. Tougher times wont encourage you to make a bigger family. Probably this is a way to decrease population through prosperity and not thru war.

Either that or we'll develop the world at a faster rate with the help of machines to accomodate the growing population.

On my point of view, the talented guys still got a lot of opportunities.

1.) thru the help of technology they get more exposure
2.) the top tier people gives them opportunity for them to expand

Remember that these top tier people want to diversify because they also know how competitive it is right now with the robots and internet.

I'm in the real estate industry and i find a lot of successful top tier people shift to be developers or investors. Nowadays, its easier and faster to build and sell things. While we all know that we need space and shelter just as how we need food.

Now if you find a tough time living these days, I discovered that living a simple life in the country side helps your well being.

If you go to europe or the country side, you see the locals being relaxed. They are less materialistic and more into family and nature.

It's the equivalent of Jahlil Okafor going to europe after finding the NBA is too fast for him. Hahaha

Here's also something to think about. I think we need to spend relative to what is in our tier of material things. If you look around, cheap things gets cheaper. And there's a lot of good quality cheap things out there.

Why do you have to spend on an iphone x or a $300 off white" tshirt when you can just buy an iphone 8 or a shirt at gap (h&m)?

Travelling is also a lot cheaper than before with the cheaper airfares and airbnb. While cafe and restaurants are at every corner fighting to get buyers.

I feel that eventually the value of money will decline with the improving quality of material things. That should make people spread the wealth at a better rate.

I hope everything i post here makes sense lol

Population growth is going through the roof.
People want and buy so much (USA) in part because they are under consistent assault from marketing everywhere they turn.
I'm with you on the simple life. If only it was that simple to make it happen.

Eyeamok wrote:

76ciology wrote:

Eyeamok wrote:
Population growth is going through the roof.
People want and buy so much (USA) in part because they are under consistent assault from marketing everywhere they turn.
I'm with you on the simple life. If only it was that simple to make it happen.

It's funny you posted this. This weekend I watched world War Z again and found out that next year World War Z 2 is coming out. Then this year we had Thanos snapping his finger and getting rid of half the population everywhere.

With over population, poor living conditions and the need to pump up livestock with drugs etc. We now have bacteria that is now Antibiotic resistant. We could one day reach a point where all the common ailments that we take Antibiotics for no longer respond or respond in such an efficient way. That is scary.

76ciology wrote:Anyone got the new NBA2k19 yet?

eyeatoma wrote:

76ciology wrote:Anyone got the new NBA2k19 yet?

Yeah I did... I like it...

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76ciology wrote:

eyeatoma wrote:

76ciology wrote:Anyone got the new NBA2k19 yet?

Yeah I did... I like it...

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More realistic gameplay than the last one?