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Post#401 » by Kobblehead » Wed Aug 21, 2019 1:42 pm

Were they playing Jock Landale at PF?
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Post#402 » by Negrodamus » Wed Aug 21, 2019 2:21 pm

It seems Australian fans are blowing their load over the FIBA World Cup and not taking the long view of the Olympics. I'd be more concerned about alienating NBA players that could help on a bigger stage than something that is really an afterthought. Perhaps my perspective is skewed from an American POV where I don't even think of the FIBA World Cup.
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Post#403 » by moistie » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:01 am

Negrodamus wrote:It seems Australian fans are blowing their load over the FIBA World Cup and not taking the long view of the Olympics. I'd be more concerned about alienating NBA players that could help on a bigger stage than something that is really an afterthought. Perhaps my perspective is skewed from an American POV where I don't even think of the FIBA World Cup.
The trouble is, if Australia do not do well enough at the World Cup they may not qualify for the Olympics.

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Post#404 » by Sixerscan » Thu Aug 22, 2019 1:21 am

moistie wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:It seems Australian fans are blowing their load over the FIBA World Cup and not taking the long view of the Olympics. I'd be more concerned about alienating NBA players that could help on a bigger stage than something that is really an afterthought. Perhaps my perspective is skewed from an American POV where I don't even think of the FIBA World Cup.
The trouble is, if Australia do not do well enough at the World Cup they may not qualify for the Olympics.

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They're ranked like 20 spots higher than everyone in their zone. They could qualify with just Delly, his siblings and extended family.
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Post#405 » by Babylove » Thu Aug 22, 2019 10:45 am

Negrodamus wrote:It seems Australian fans are blowing their load over the FIBA World Cup and not taking the long view of the Olympics. I'd be more concerned about alienating NBA players that could help on a bigger stage than something that is really an afterthought. Perhaps my perspective is skewed from an American POV where I don't even think of the FIBA World Cup.

I don’t think Australian fans mind that he’s pulled out, but they’ve got a problem with the how, when and why. People were disappointed when Simmons pulled out because he didn’t think he could do two offseason in a row with the Boomers and wanted to prioritise the Olympics, but no one was really angry about it. With Jonah, he pulled out half way through our World Cup preparation reportedly because he spat the dummy with the coach over his role within the team and the amount of minutes he was getting in games where Andrej Lemanis was clearly testing out combinations.
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Post#406 » by jpengland » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:21 pm

Philly are one of the teams I watch most closely of late.

Bolden looks primed for a breakout year and to become a solid rotation piece from what I have seen. Do Philly fans feel the same way?

He has what looks to be a good three ball, runs the floor well, switches well and can offer a little rim protection. He looked to me like once the game slows down for him, he could be a legitimately hood NBA player.
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Post#407 » by LloydFree » Fri Aug 30, 2019 9:34 pm

jpengland wrote:Philly are one of the teams I watch most closely of late.

Bolden looks primed for a breakout year and to become a solid rotation piece from what I have seen. Do Philly fans feel the same way?

He has what looks to be a good three ball, runs the floor well, switches well and can offer a little rim protection. He looked to me like once the game slows down for him, he could be a legitimately hood NBA player.

Bolden has a lot of talent, but the Coach doesn't trust him yet. Bolden makes too many mistakes on defense and fouls so much he can't stay on the court when they need him.
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Post#408 » by 76ciology » Sat Aug 31, 2019 7:53 am

jpengland wrote:Philly are one of the teams I watch most closely of late.

Bolden looks primed for a breakout year and to become a solid rotation piece from what I have seen. Do Philly fans feel the same way?

He has what looks to be a good three ball, runs the floor well, switches well and can offer a little rim protection. He looked to me like once the game slows down for him, he could be a legitimately hood NBA player.


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Post#409 » by Monix » Sat Aug 31, 2019 1:54 pm

adopting Horford as a mentor would be Bolden's best bet going forward
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Post#410 » by smittybanton » Wed Oct 16, 2019 8:57 pm

we really need jonah bolden with a consistent shot.
we have no one his size who can play out on the wing like he can.
there's an increasing number of big forwards who handle the rock and overpower smaller players when they get a head of steam going.
from lebron, giannis, blake griffin, anthony davis, kevin durant, aaron gordon, pascal siakam ...now zion williamson.
for all the concern about tobias harris guarding threes, he's not especially great at guarding big fours.
up until ten years ago, 6'8 235 shooters were called tweeners who were too slow to play sf and too small to bang with fours. the modern game has opened things up for them.
still, brett brown took tobias off of kawhi immediately after leonard methodically backed tobias under the rim and two hand dunked on him.
consider that in addition to large playermakers, some teams are going big because the numbers are showing that winning the rebounding battle is the single greatest determinant correlating with wins.
kristaps porzingis, lauri markannen, julius randle, zach collins, jonathan isaac. denver was known to play jokic and plumlee together.
along with player movement, different styles and strategies are coming back to the nba, and i love it.
but that also means mike scott off the bench is not enough.
the sixers need a 6'10 defensive forward off the bench who can switch up to a five or put the pressure on a three like jayson tatum, which i've seen bolden do nicely.
as much as ben needs to shoot threes, his aussie buddy desperately needs to smooth out his jimmy, and the Sixers take another step towards world dominance.
not confident it will happen, got my fingers crossed.
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Post#411 » by Kobblehead » Wed Oct 16, 2019 9:47 pm

I'm done with Jonah Bolden. Here's a post I made in another thread:

Jonah Bolden is an interesting, but frustrating case. He's clearly a fantastic defensive talent, but he's too skinny and physically weak to play C, full time. And I'm not sure how much you want a gawky, marginally coordinated 6'10" guy playing the two F positions in 2019.

And I don't know how he randomly hits some of the shots he does, but his overall shooting ability is poor and nonoptimistic, going forward.

I agree, time to move on.
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Post#412 » by ankle420breaker » Wed Oct 16, 2019 10:31 pm

Wish we could just cut ties and sign Noah, but can't see us dumping a guy on a guaranteed deal. Maybe a rebuilding squad with weak depth would gamble on him for a future 2nd.

Its only preseason, but Jonah is playing as undisciplined as ever right now. Dumb fouls, forced passes, bad shot selection, inconsistent shooting, etc. He still appears to be a country mile away from being reliable.

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Post#413 » by Simmons25 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 3:57 am

Jonah's biggest issue is he plays like a guy running around with his head cut off. It's like the game is just way too fast for him. I could understand it in Year 1 but he is showing no signs of the game slowing down in his head in Year 2.

I was desperate for Ben to miss the World Cup to work on his shot instead... but thought Jonah was making big mistake by quitting the team just before the World Cup. He is a guy that badly needed game time on the court... not shooting in an open gym and scrimmages.

He has come into camp that scratchy and is so far down the roster now I can't see him still being on the team past December.
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Post#414 » by PhillyPhilly » Thu Oct 17, 2019 4:15 am

Why are folks so impatient? Let the kid progress without having unrealistic expectations placed on him. I saw him help us beat Golden State last season by being good on both ends of the floor and I think he'll do well again this season when called upon.
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Post#415 » by ankle420breaker » Thu Oct 17, 2019 12:27 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:Why are folks so impatient? Let the kid progress without having unrealistic expectations placed on him. I saw him help us beat Golden State last season by being good on both ends of the floor and I think he'll do well again this season when called upon.
I'd be more patient if we were still in the collect assets/develop talent phase. We're trying to contend now and Jonah has loads he needs to improve upon. His foul prone tendencies and inconsistent shooting are two key areas that he may never earn Brett's trust on.

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Post#416 » by Ericb5 » Thu Oct 17, 2019 2:06 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:
PhillyPhilly wrote:Why are folks so impatient? Let the kid progress without having unrealistic expectations placed on him. I saw him help us beat Golden State last season by being good on both ends of the floor and I think he'll do well again this season when called upon.
I'd be more patient if we were still in the collect assets/develop talent phase. We're trying to contend now and Jonah has loads he needs to improve upon. His foul prone tendencies and inconsistent shooting are two key areas that he may never earn Brett's trust on.

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That's true, but we don't need to give up on him unless we have another better option. If we can use him to trade for a useful role player then so be it, but let him stay a prospect in our system for the time being.

We don't give up on him to simply take a flyer on some other marginal prospect.

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