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Re: LeBron 2018: Will the Sixers have a shot? 

Post#241 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:41 am

Hinkies Island wrote:I'm not sure why we would want him? LeBron is sublime, but he's also 33 and doesn't align with this team's timeline whatsoever. LBJ on this team is not getting by GS and truth be told we don't get by the Spurs or even win the East. I don't see us having a shot, and quite frankly I'd rather see what we built grow.


I think our timeline could be to contend in 2019. Lebron would still be an impact player 2 and 3 seasons from now.

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Post#242 » by LongLiveHinkie » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:06 am

If Embiid is healthy, he would be the most talented player Lebron has ever played with in his career.

I don't see how anyone wouldn't want him. For one, he doesn't hurt our rebuild. Our core stars are already in place. He likely wouldn't be signed to a long-term deal, so we'd still have future flexibility. His signing would put us on the map nationally, which would carry us into the future when he leaves. There is no downside unless he totally breaks down within the next calendar year and flat out can't play anymore, which is unlikely.

And if Lebron doesn't get us past the Warriors or Spurs, I'm not sure who in the next 3-5 years would. Unless you're just waiting until those teams lose players, which in that case we'd still be in position to contend with them anyway at that point in the future.
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Post#243 » by Ericb5 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:24 am

Lebron is a one man contender. Any team in the league that he plays on will win 50 games with a little tweaking.

I agree that we shouldn't trade for him, but in terms of taking him on as a free agent even though he is a decade older than our core, is a no brainer.

He makes us contend the first year that he is with us, and he will be a great player for at least another 4-5 years.


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Post#244 » by KrazySixersD » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:52 am

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Yeah that's what I'm saying too. He's going to do a 2 year deal like KD's been doing where he can opt out every year. I don't think Lakers have enough cap space to get Lebron AND Paul george, and a shooter (but too many forwards on Lakers if Lebron goes there).

And I don't think GSW will stay like this. I can't see how they can hang on to every star they got.

And once GSW implodes he's going to go to the best situation possible. AND where he can make money. That could be philly, timberwolves, houston, lakers, or even OKC. But if GSW stays this way, Philly's going to have to add shooters. Otherwise you got everyone wanting the paint - Lebron, Simmons, Embiid, and Saric. And no spacers. no 3 point shooters. No, you can't beat them.

Why do you think Cavs overpaid for JR Smith, and signed Korver?


redick and covington arent 3 point shooters? fultz in theory is but the 2 I mentioned are already well established 3 point shooters, Redick being one of the best and most consistent in the entire NBA


Already discussed. Redick is signed only for 1 year dude!


I realize this, Redick has said he wants to finish his career here and I think they have an under the table agreement that they will keep him here but the values will change significantly being that we will be going after Lebron or other big names next season
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Post#245 » by KrazySixersD » Sun Jul 23, 2017 3:56 am

Hinkies Island wrote:I'm not sure why we would want him? LeBron is sublime, but he's also 33 and doesn't align with this team's timeline whatsoever. LBJ on this team is not getting by GS and truth be told we don't get by the Spurs or even win the East. I don't see us having a shot, and quite frankly I'd rather see what we built grow.


we dont win the east with lebron? is this a joke?
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Post#246 » by Hinkies Island » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:09 am

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Hinkies Island wrote:I'm not sure why we would want him? LeBron is sublime, but he's also 33 and doesn't align with this team's timeline whatsoever. LBJ on this team is not getting by GS and truth be told we don't get by the Spurs or even win the East. I don't see us having a shot, and quite frankly I'd rather see what we built grow.


we dont win the east with lebron? is this a joke?

Fultz, Simmons, and Saric will each be in their 2/third seasons respectively. If we were to get the Lakers pick next year, that rookie would be in year 1. Embiid, will have had no playoff experience. And LeBron James, as great as he, is on the decline. He has over 50,000 minutes recorded, is entering his age 33 season and 15th season in the league. I have no reason to assume that LeBron's standing as a top 2 player in the league will remain by that point. Maybe it does? But the point still stands, even if WE win the East, do you really think we beat GS, the Rockets, the Spurs? I say no. Just rebuild it organically.
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Post#247 » by 76ciology » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:32 am

So how are we going to get LBJ. It's likely to be this offseason because I doubt LBJ will play with a trash team after the Kyrie deal
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Post#248 » by KrazySixersD » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:55 am

Hinkies Island wrote:
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Hinkies Island wrote:I'm not sure why we would want him? LeBron is sublime, but he's also 33 and doesn't align with this team's timeline whatsoever. LBJ on this team is not getting by GS and truth be told we don't get by the Spurs or even win the East. I don't see us having a shot, and quite frankly I'd rather see what we built grow.


we dont win the east with lebron? is this a joke?

Fultz, Simmons, and Saric will each be in their 2/third seasons respectively. If we were to get the Lakers pick next year, that rookie would be in year 1. Embiid, will have had no playoff experience. And LeBron James, as great as he, is on the decline. He has over 50,000 minutes recorded, is entering his age 33 season and 15th season in the league. I have no reason to assume that LeBron's standing as a top 2 player in the league will remain by that point. Maybe it does? But the point still stands, even if WE win the East, do you really think we beat GS, the Rockets, the Spurs? I say no. Just rebuild it organically.


LBJ just had one of his best seasons of his career.... the dude is no where close to dropping off the cliff... Lebron was everything for that team and still put up the efficient numbers he did

Lebron is not even remotely close to declining out of being a top 5 player for years.. Would it benefit him to start playing 30mpg instead of 40? hell ya... and he can do that here
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Post#249 » by Cheatergriffin » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:14 am

Even if he were to decline you still dont say no. His decline is still equivalent to a top 5-10-15 player at least lol. People make me laugh. I dont know if its the negadelphian mentality but my goodness...its lebron freaking james.

Sidenote small ball lineup with bron or simmons at the 5 running pick and rolls with each other would be amazing to watch.

Throw in embiid who lets be honest is literally just scratching the surface potential wise, which is scary as hell for the league considering his per 36 numbers were absurd as a rookie, dare i say long shot mvp discussion level if he played enough games/mins. I mean all his defensive abilities and advanced statistics aside, am i a homer or a fool for thinking jojo is going to shoot 40%+from 3 at some point consistently in his career? Lmao people sleep on jojo and doubt bc of injuries, but god willing if that man stays healthy.

My point with the jojo rant is pairing him with lebron is this: Jojo is a freak amongst freaks, i believe ben simmons is a freak, lebron is arguably the freak of all freaks. Surround the athletically gifted physical specimen freaks who just so happen to play unselfish with finesse players (fultz,jj) and this team would steam roll to the finals on a collision course with gsw. The 76ers' ability to switch virtually 1-5 would give gsw as currentlynconstructed its best shot.
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Post#250 » by Hinkies Island » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:05 pm

Cheatergriffin wrote:Even if he were to decline you still dont say no. His decline is still equivalent to a top 5-10-15 player at least lol. People make me laugh. I dont know if its the negadelphian mentality but my goodness...its lebron freaking james.

Sidenote small ball lineup with bron or simmons at the 5 running pick and rolls with each other would be amazing to watch.

Throw in embiid who lets be honest is literally just scratching the surface potential wise, which is scary as hell for the league considering his per 36 numbers were absurd as a rookie, dare i say long shot mvp discussion level if he played enough games/mins. I mean all his defensive abilities and advanced statistics aside, am i a homer or a fool for thinking jojo is going to shoot 40%+from 3 at some point consistently in his career? Lmao people sleep on jojo and doubt bc of injuries, but god willing if that man stays healthy.

My point with the jojo rant is pairing him with lebron is this: Jojo is a freak amongst freaks, i believe ben simmons is a freak, lebron is arguably the freak of all freaks. Surround the athletically gifted physical specimen freaks who just so happen to play unselfish with finesse players (fultz,jj) and this team would steam roll to the finals on a collision course with gsw. The 76ers' ability to switch virtually 1-5 would give gsw as currentlynconstructed its best shot.

Yes, it's LeBron James, yes on paper it DOES make more sense to not turn him down. He's arguably the GOAT, but as a fan I'm invested in watching THIS particular team grow. I want to see Simmons become a lead ballhandler, our version of LeBron(obviously he'll never be good as LBJ, but I think you know what I mean), I want to see Fultz grow and explore his abilities as a secondary playmaker next to BS. With LBJ, everything will be built around him. Simmons will be relegated to functioning as an off the ball cutter, ala Wade in the big 3 Heat era, Fultz will become the equivalent to a spot up specialist, etc. There is no doubt that LeBron makes us better and contenders probably, but does that come at the expense of future development?

Also, are we sure that young rookies/2nd year players will be ready to execute the sacrificing that is necessary to play with play with LeBron James? I'm probably not being logical, and it's not like I'd complain if he came!
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Post#251 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:53 pm

Lebron is going to leave Cleveland in shambles. He used his influence to make sure guys like Thompson and Smith got paid way more then the market would have paid. And he's (presumably) going to skip town and leave the Cavs stuck with his baggage while he heads to a sunnier destination. That's why I wouldn't necessarily want him. If we were just trying to get Lebron the basketball talent, by all means. But he seems to view himself as being much more then that. He wants power.

This sounds kind of stupid as I'm typing it, but if he were to come here, I want it to be on our terms. He is not going to be the best player in the league very much longer at all. If he were to buy in to a theory of "helping the next generation" or something like that, then fine. But I can't see that happening.
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Post#253 » by sixers hoops » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:15 pm

76thBearCub wrote:Lebron is going to leave Cleveland in shambles. He used his influence to make sure guys like Thompson and Smith got paid way more then the market would have paid. And he's (presumably) going to skip town and leave the Cavs stuck with his baggage while he heads to a sunnier destination. That's why I wouldn't necessarily want him. If we were just trying to get Lebron the basketball talent, by all means. But he seems to view himself as being much more then that. He wants power.

This sounds kind of stupid as I'm typing it, but if he were to come here, I want it to be on our terms. He is not going to be the best player in the league very much longer at all. If he were to buy in to a theory of "helping the next generation" or something like that, then fine. But I can't see that happening.


I don't care how he leaves them. He won them a championship, and they weren't close when he went there. Teams are left in bad rebuilding situations all the time, but theyre usually not lucky enough to have a championship to show for it.
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Post#254 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:55 pm

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76thBearCub wrote:Lebron is going to leave Cleveland in shambles. He used his influence to make sure guys like Thompson and Smith got paid way more then the market would have paid. And he's (presumably) going to skip town and leave the Cavs stuck with his baggage while he heads to a sunnier destination. That's why I wouldn't necessarily want him. If we were just trying to get Lebron the basketball talent, by all means. But he seems to view himself as being much more then that. He wants power.

This sounds kind of stupid as I'm typing it, but if he were to come here, I want it to be on our terms. He is not going to be the best player in the league very much longer at all. If he were to buy in to a theory of "helping the next generation" or something like that, then fine. But I can't see that happening.


I don't care how he leaves them. He won them a championship, and they weren't close when he went there. Teams are left in bad rebuilding situations all the time, but theyre usually not lucky enough to have a championship to show for it.



He wouldn't be coming here to win us a championship though. If he hypothetically signed next off season, he is heading in to his 16th year. If Embiid destroys everybody next year and Lebron hops on his jock, fine. But the last thing I want is Lebron coming in here past his prime and ordering people around to suit his goals.
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Post#255 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:30 pm

Hinkies Island wrote:
Cheatergriffin wrote:Even if he were to decline you still dont say no. His decline is still equivalent to a top 5-10-15 player at least lol. People make me laugh. I dont know if its the negadelphian mentality but my goodness...its lebron freaking james.

Sidenote small ball lineup with bron or simmons at the 5 running pick and rolls with each other would be amazing to watch.

Throw in embiid who lets be honest is literally just scratching the surface potential wise, which is scary as hell for the league considering his per 36 numbers were absurd as a rookie, dare i say long shot mvp discussion level if he played enough games/mins. I mean all his defensive abilities and advanced statistics aside, am i a homer or a fool for thinking jojo is going to shoot 40%+from 3 at some point consistently in his career? Lmao people sleep on jojo and doubt bc of injuries, but god willing if that man stays healthy.

My point with the jojo rant is pairing him with lebron is this: Jojo is a freak amongst freaks, i believe ben simmons is a freak, lebron is arguably the freak of all freaks. Surround the athletically gifted physical specimen freaks who just so happen to play unselfish with finesse players (fultz,jj) and this team would steam roll to the finals on a collision course with gsw. The 76ers' ability to switch virtually 1-5 would give gsw as currentlynconstructed its best shot.

Yes, it's LeBron James, yes on paper it DOES make more sense to not turn him down. He's arguably the GOAT, but as a fan I'm invested in watching THIS particular team grow. I want to see Simmons become a lead ballhandler, our version of LeBron(obviously he'll never be good as LBJ, but I think you know what I mean), I want to see Fultz grow and explore his abilities as a secondary playmaker next to BS. With LBJ, everything will be built around him. Simmons will be relegated to functioning as an off the ball cutter, ala Wade in the big 3 Heat era, Fultz will become the equivalent to a spot up specialist, etc. There is no doubt that LeBron makes us better and contenders probably, but does that come at the expense of future development?

Also, are we sure that young rookies/2nd year players will be ready to execute the sacrificing that is necessary to play with play with LeBron James? I'm probably not being logical, and it's not like I'd complain if he came!


This make sense zero sense. I guess you don't want to Sixers to ever get a top 10 player who wants to play here once he's a free agent then. Weird. Why wouldn't you want top players to come here?
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Post#256 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Jul 23, 2017 10:39 pm

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Hinkies Island wrote:
Cheatergriffin wrote:Even if he were to decline you still dont say no. His decline is still equivalent to a top 5-10-15 player at least lol. People make me laugh. I dont know if its the negadelphian mentality but my goodness...its lebron freaking james.

Sidenote small ball lineup with bron or simmons at the 5 running pick and rolls with each other would be amazing to watch.

Throw in embiid who lets be honest is literally just scratching the surface potential wise, which is scary as hell for the league considering his per 36 numbers were absurd as a rookie, dare i say long shot mvp discussion level if he played enough games/mins. I mean all his defensive abilities and advanced statistics aside, am i a homer or a fool for thinking jojo is going to shoot 40%+from 3 at some point consistently in his career? Lmao people sleep on jojo and doubt bc of injuries, but god willing if that man stays healthy.

My point with the jojo rant is pairing him with lebron is this: Jojo is a freak amongst freaks, i believe ben simmons is a freak, lebron is arguably the freak of all freaks. Surround the athletically gifted physical specimen freaks who just so happen to play unselfish with finesse players (fultz,jj) and this team would steam roll to the finals on a collision course with gsw. The 76ers' ability to switch virtually 1-5 would give gsw as currentlynconstructed its best shot.

Yes, it's LeBron James, yes on paper it DOES make more sense to not turn him down. He's arguably the GOAT, but as a fan I'm invested in watching THIS particular team grow. I want to see Simmons become a lead ballhandler, our version of LeBron(obviously he'll never be good as LBJ, but I think you know what I mean), I want to see Fultz grow and explore his abilities as a secondary playmaker next to BS. With LBJ, everything will be built around him. Simmons will be relegated to functioning as an off the ball cutter, ala Wade in the big 3 Heat era, Fultz will become the equivalent to a spot up specialist, etc. There is no doubt that LeBron makes us better and contenders probably, but does that come at the expense of future development?

Also, are we sure that young rookies/2nd year players will be ready to execute the sacrificing that is necessary to play with play with LeBron James? I'm probably not being logical, and it's not like I'd complain if he came!


This make sense zero sense. I guess you don't want to Sixers to ever get a top 10 player who wants to play here once he's a free agent then. Weird. Why wouldn't you want top players to come here?



He's getting older and it won't be long before his ego exceeds his talent. He has at max 3 elite seasons left in the tank. We are not winning a title in that time frame unless we sell off young talent for veterans and give up on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. I bought in to the process on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. Not on taking a poke at it for a year or 2.
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Post#258 » by Unbreakable99 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:40 pm

76thBearCub wrote:
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Hinkies Island wrote:Yes, it's LeBron James, yes on paper it DOES make more sense to not turn him down. He's arguably the GOAT, but as a fan I'm invested in watching THIS particular team grow. I want to see Simmons become a lead ballhandler, our version of LeBron(obviously he'll never be good as LBJ, but I think you know what I mean), I want to see Fultz grow and explore his abilities as a secondary playmaker next to BS. With LBJ, everything will be built around him. Simmons will be relegated to functioning as an off the ball cutter, ala Wade in the big 3 Heat era, Fultz will become the equivalent to a spot up specialist, etc. There is no doubt that LeBron makes us better and contenders probably, but does that come at the expense of future development?

Also, are we sure that young rookies/2nd year players will be ready to execute the sacrificing that is necessary to play with play with LeBron James? I'm probably not being logical, and it's not like I'd complain if he came!


This make sense zero sense. I guess you don't want to Sixers to ever get a top 10 player who wants to play here once he's a free agent then. Weird. Why wouldn't you want top players to come here?



He's getting older and it won't be long before his ego exceeds his talent. He has at max 3 elite seasons left in the tank. We are not winning a title in that time frame unless we sell off young talent for veterans and give up on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. I bought in to the process on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. Not on taking a poke at it for a year or 2.


LeBron will be a top 5 player for the next 4 years. We will still be able to contend after he leaves us. You guys are thinking way too much. This is an easy decision.
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This make sense zero sense. I guess you don't want to Sixers to ever get a top 10 player who wants to play here once he's a free agent then. Weird. Why wouldn't you want top players to come here?



He's getting older and it won't be long before his ego exceeds his talent. He has at max 3 elite seasons left in the tank. We are not winning a title in that time frame unless we sell off young talent for veterans and give up on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. I bought in to the process on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. Not on taking a poke at it for a year or 2.


LeBron will be a top 5 player for the next 4 years
. We will still be able to contend after he leaves us. You guys are thinking way too much. This is an easy decision.



That's quite a limb to walk out on.
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76thBearCub wrote:
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He's getting older and it won't be long before his ego exceeds his talent. He has at max 3 elite seasons left in the tank. We are not winning a title in that time frame unless we sell off young talent for veterans and give up on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. I bought in to the process on the idea of having an elite contending team for 10 years. Not on taking a poke at it for a year or 2.


LeBron will be a top 5 player for the next 4 years
. We will still be able to contend after he leaves us. You guys are thinking way too much. This is an easy decision.



That's quite a limb to walk out on.


You're the one who doesn't want LeBron not me. You don't want a top 5 talent. That's crazy.

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