Markelle Fultz Discussion II

Kobblehead · Post #1 » by **Kobblehead** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:56 pm

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phiphan · Post #2 » by **phiphan** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:58 pm

Markelle Fultz (Chick-Fil-A ® edition) thread

James40 · Post #3 » by **James40** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:58 pm

Did he have an MRI on his shoulder?

JojoSlimbiid · Post #4 » by **JojoSlimbiid** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:58 pm

Ben Simmons in a year and change has had 2 threads.

Markelle in a couple months has 2. Kelle has the puters putin

cksdayoff · Post #5 » by **cksdayoff** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 2:59 pm

best prospect in the draft also the best fit for the sixers.

Post #6 » by **BullyKing** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:10 pm

I locked the previous one but the first page of this thread seems a good point to say the following: let's try to up the civility in this topic from what we had in the last one.

Post #7 » by **Sixerscan** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:11 pm

First month of Bradley Beal's career he averaged 11.2 points on 34% shooting in 28 mpg.

Brauer · Post #8 » by **Brauer** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:30 pm

I honestly wonder what happened with his set jump shot. I still believe he is the best prospect in the draft, but we need that jumper to be back to where it was.

MountainDrew · Post #9 » by **MountainDrew** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 3:45 pm

Thought he looked pretty good, but hes not even looking to shoot anymore. The jumper looked good when he took the pullup though. I dont understand wtf theyve done to him

Negrodamus · Post #10 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:03 pm

While I acknowledge that his shot looks nuts and it's very problematic, he has been a very welcomed surprise in preseason and in last nights game. His mistakes were forgivable for a rookie and his driving ability + quickness looked great. He also showed a decent amount of effort (chasedown block after getting ripped).

The freakout over his shot has everyone magnifying the loss last night against probably the second best team in the East at their place. I guess I should get used to these crazy overreactions.

cksdayoff · Post #11 » by **cksdayoff** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:09 pm

great thing so far is he’s not overwhelmed by nba bodies and his skills of drawing contact and being crafty around the rim has transfered over

Gsraider · Post #12 » by **Gsraider** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:13 pm

MountainDrew wrote:Thought he looked pretty good, but hes not even looking to shoot anymore. The jumper looked good when he took the pullup though. I dont understand wtf theyve done to him

While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

LloydFree · Post #13 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:13 pm

Hopefully Fultz shows enough to keep the team from thinking they need to use all of the available remaining cap space on Avery Bradley or Kentavious Caldwell Pope.

Negrodamus · Post #14 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:14 pm

Gsraider wrote:
MountainDrew wrote:Thought he looked pretty good, but hes not even looking to shoot anymore. The jumper looked good when he took the pullup though. I dont understand wtf theyve done to him

While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

Monk was 1-9 (1-6 from 3) last night. I think he might have forgotten how to shoot as well.

Unbreakable99 · Post #15 » by **Unbreakable99** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:15 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Gsraider wrote:
MountainDrew wrote:Thought he looked pretty good, but hes not even looking to shoot anymore. The jumper looked good when he took the pullup though. I dont understand wtf theyve done to him

While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

Monk was 1-9 (1-6 from 3) last night. I think he might have forgotten how to shoot as well.

One game.

LloydFree · Post #16 » by **LloydFree** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:18 pm

Gsraider wrote:
MountainDrew wrote:Thought he looked pretty good, but hes not even looking to shoot anymore. The jumper looked good when he took the pullup though. I dont understand wtf theyve done to him

While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

Nik Stauskas... Jimmer Fredette... Trajon Langdon... even young JJ Redick. Guys forget how to shoot all of the time, when they move up from shooting against athletes from Cal Poly- technical.

cksdayoff · Post #17 » by **cksdayoff** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:21 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Gsraider wrote:
MountainDrew wrote:Thought he looked pretty good, but hes not even looking to shoot anymore. The jumper looked good when he took the pullup though. I dont understand wtf theyve done to him

While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

Monk was 1-9 (1-6 from 3) last night. I think he might have forgotten how to shoot as well.

this is what people were saying about monk before the draft. when his shot isnt falling he ends up becoming a paperweight out there

Negrodamus · Post #18 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:22 pm

Unbreakable99 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Gsraider wrote:
While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

Monk was 1-9 (1-6 from 3) last night. I think he might have forgotten how to shoot as well.

One game.

He's shooting 33% FG and 31% 3FG in his preseason games + first regular season game including a 7-22 (2-11) performance earlier in the preseason.

I'm not sure where you stand on the Monk train, but his purpose is to hit shots, which he has not been doing. It's not even a comparison between Fultz and Monk. Fultz is objectively a better player even if he shoots like Shaq.

Negrodamus · Post #19 » by **Negrodamus** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:23 pm

cksdayoff wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Gsraider wrote:
While everyone is debating whether he was the right pick or trading up for him was the right move, I just don't even see the same player anymore. He looks nothing like the guy he was at Washington or even in the Summer League a few months ago. You can't even chalk it up to NBA defenders or not being able to acclimate. How do you explain Fultz' unwillingness to shoot a jumper outside of the paint even when wide open? Has anyone ever seen him hesitate to take that shot at any level, HS, College or Summer League? How about the FT form? That's not a rebuild or even fluid. It looks like Shaq and even worse than Noel. It makes zero sense.

So, people can argue that he should be on the ball, they like what they have seen, etc. I don't think that's even an issue right now. There is something bizarre going on with him, whether injury, mental or otherwise. The current version we are seeing was not worth taking at #3, let alone trading up to get. They would have been better off reaching like crazy and taking Monk. I find that beyond mind boggling however, which makes me almost positive that something else is at play here. No one forgets how to shoot and becomes a completely different player in the span of 3 months without a devastating injury or lobotomy.

Monk was 1-9 (1-6 from 3) last night. I think he might have forgotten how to shoot as well.

this is what people were saying about monk before the draft. when his shot isnt falling he ends up becoming a paperweight out there

Yea, I have a full college season sample size of him either saving our team or being a massive anchor dragging the team down.

Unbreakable99 · Post #20 » by **Unbreakable99** » Thu Oct 19, 2017 4:24 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Unbreakable99 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Monk was 1-9 (1-6 from 3) last night. I think he might have forgotten how to shoot as well.

One game.

He's shooting 33% FG and 31% 3FG in his preseason games + first regular season game including a 7-22 (2-11) performance earlier in the preseason.

I'm not sure where you stand on the Monk train, but his purpose is to hit shots, which he has not been doing. It's not even a comparison between Fultz and Monk. Fultz is objectively a better player even if he shoots like Shaq.

I was indifferent towards Monk. I definitely think Fultz is the better prospect. I'm just saying it's one game. That's all. We need a larger sample size.