Ericb5 wrote:spikeslovechild wrote:Ericb5 wrote:
After his rookie year we will know more about him than we do before his rookie year, but I don’t know what kind of conclusion you could draw.
Ball is probably going to finish this year with similar numbers to what he has now. What does that teach us about his future? Virtually nothing.
Btw, you said that we would know whether it was a good or bad deal by the end of the year. My point is that we won’t know that.
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I said likely because I do think he is going to play well and if he does that removes many of questions surrounding the trade.
As far as Ball future goes of course this season has told us a bunch. It's told us he needs a complete overhaul of his shot to even have a chance in this league moving forward. It's told us that his shot doesn't work in the NBA. Those are big things. In a redraft noway he gets taken 2nd. He probably doesn't even go top five maybe not even top 10.
So yeah the shine has started to come off him as a prospect.
I’m saying that we don’t know whether Ball will or won’t be able to change his shot mechanics. 19 year olds have long roads ahead of them.
Shine can come off of prospects. The shine came off of Aaron Gordon too. You still need multiple years to pass before you can make a determination on a player.We won’t know Fultz’s destiny a year from now, but we will know more about him.
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Not really. There are outliers of course like Gordon I brought up Malone in relation to Okafor but that isn't even the point. There are struggles like Bennett and then there Gordons or Malone or whomever.
The point is you can see the talent. With Ball his shot looks hopeless and if you don't see that you aren't watching. He isn't just missing he isn't even close. So yeah sure at some point he could completely reconstruct his form and have a solid career but you can't assume that. It's rarely been attempted and even fewer times has it been sucessful. I wish the Lakers all the best.
Moving it back to Fultz thats sort of what I'm looking for beyond the numbers. I want to see the talent. I want to see him show flashes of dominance even if he is unable to put it together for an entire year.
I actually saw it when he did play. He got to the rim at will. He just couldn't didn't finish. He was averaging 12.8 attempts per 36. Sure he looked out of control at times but even with that being said he wasn't turning the ball over.
You just have to hope when he gets healthy those buckets turn into baskets and the 3PT shooting from summer league carries over.