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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1581 » by No-Man » Mon May 20, 2019 11:33 am

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IDK what the competition level is in this game but this guy has some stuff to get excited about.

Reminds a bit of Galinari, with more defensive potential. I don't think there is 14 players in the draft I'd consider over him.


If he was to make it to 20, id be trying to move up to snag him.

Sekou is 100% going top14
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Post#1582 » by No-Man » Mon May 20, 2019 11:35 am

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Kobblehead wrote:I dunno, Paschall is nearly 260 pounds. He's basically at C weight.

Probably closer to Yabusele than Scott.


Another player I like is Admiral Schofield from Tennessee. Has good size at that small forward position, can possibly play the 4, and can hit from outside. His age (22) might scare teams off, but if he's still there in the 2nd round when we pick again, I think we should draft him. I like his teammate Grant Williams too.

Schofield has terrible size for his skillset, can pass a bit but super rudimentary and can't handle the ball at 6-4, 6-5 in shoes, mediocre length, his 3 ball is pretty average, can't D up

He is a fake prospect, absolute do not draft, has no chance to stick in the league unless you want him for his intangibles in the lockeer room (supposedly really good teammate) as your 15th guy, but again, waste of a draft pick

Grant Williams is a top15 prospect
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1583 » by PLO » Mon May 20, 2019 12:17 pm

I agree with the above on Schofield - if you've ever wondered what a G league player would do against college opposition look no further than physically-maxed-out-22-year-old Schofield this past season.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1584 » by BullyKing » Mon May 20, 2019 4:04 pm

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Post#1585 » by Negrodamus » Mon May 20, 2019 4:10 pm

Rough crowd. Terance Mann is somewhat of interest, I guess. Ky Bowman is alright. Marial Shayok caught my eye a few times. I'm very confused why Zylan Cheatham has become this hot commodity during this pre-draft process (watch, the Sixers will draft him with our first pick to spite me).
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Post#1586 » by Kobblehead » Mon May 20, 2019 4:26 pm

Would Ky Bowman dye the tips of his hair blue if he was a Sixer?
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Post#1587 » by Negrodamus » Mon May 20, 2019 4:30 pm

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I feel like Dedric Lawson got bigger and is committing to looking more like DeMarcus Cousins than a svelte PF. Might not be a bad move. Looked like he was able to spread it out well at the Combine.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1588 » by smittybanton » Mon May 20, 2019 5:56 pm

+80 with Joel on the court, -90 with Joel off the court. did not move up for one of the five tool fives, did not select mitchell robinson. please do not let daniel gafford get away this year. a more physical clint capela, in my opinion.

also desperately need a pick and roll orchestrator. fultz is gone. jimmy butler could not pass out of the double team in crunch time. nickiel alexander walker, shamorie ponds.

daniel gafford, nickiel alexander walker, matisse thybulle, shamorie ponds, dedric lawson, kz okpala, charles bassey, darius bazely, tremont waters, oshae bissett...
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Post#1589 » by Negrodamus » Mon May 20, 2019 6:01 pm

The only guy I would trade up for that is projected to drop is Nickeil Alexander-Walker. The fact that he's in the late teens in a lot of mocks is really confusing to me.
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Post#1590 » by Kobblehead » Mon May 20, 2019 6:14 pm

Negrodamus wrote:The only guy I would trade up for that is projected to drop is Nickeil Alexander-Walker. The fact that he's in the late teens in a lot of mocks is really confusing to me.

People have the same questions about him as they did his cousin.

Does he have star DNA or is he just going to be a well-rounded role player.
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Post#1591 » by BullyKing » Mon May 20, 2019 6:42 pm

Negrodamus wrote:The only guy I would trade up for that is projected to drop is Nickeil Alexander-Walker. The fact that he's in the late teens in a lot of mocks is really confusing to me.


I was reading a mock draft the other day (theringer?) that had him going in the early 20s. Even though I generally hate trading up on principle I would hope we'd be working the phones if that happened.
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Post#1592 » by Negrodamus » Mon May 20, 2019 6:50 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:The only guy I would trade up for that is projected to drop is Nickeil Alexander-Walker. The fact that he's in the late teens in a lot of mocks is really confusing to me.

People have the same questions about him as they did his cousin.

Does he have star DNA or is he just going to be a well-rounded role player.


I remember someone posting clips of the difference between him and Culver off ball. NAW understands spacing and reading his man to get himself open. Culver was strictly and on ball player.

NAW has an excellent shooting profile while SGA was more theoretical. In this mediocre draft, a sophomore with his tools seems more of a no brainer than many of the guys projected in the top 10.
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Post#1593 » by Kobblehead » Mon May 20, 2019 6:53 pm

smittybanton wrote:+80 with Joel on the court, -90 with Joel off the court. did not move up for one of the five tool fives, did not select mitchell robinson. please do not let daniel gafford get away this year. a more physical clint capela, in my opinion.


Why draft a screen and roll big to a team that doesn't run P&R?

Why use a 1st round pick on a guy who will play 10 minutes a game unless we sit Joel Embiid for load management?

Why draft a guy who can't play at the end of said games that Embiid is out for load management, because he can't hit a free throw?
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1594 » by Kobblehead » Mon May 20, 2019 7:11 pm

Negrodamus wrote:I remember someone posting clips of the difference between him and Culver off ball. NAW understands spacing and reading his man to get himself open. Culver was strictly and on ball player.

NAW has an excellent shooting profile while SGA was more theoretical. In this mediocre draft, a sophomore with his tools seems more of a no brainer than many of the guys projected in the top 10.


I like NAW better than a lot of guys mocked in the Top 10, too, but teams picking there could view him as a safe, but non needle-moving Gary Harris type and they'd rather convince themselves that Jarrett Culver can be a star.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1595 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Mon May 20, 2019 10:49 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:I dunno, Paschall is nearly 260 pounds. He's basically at C weight.

Probably closer to Yabusele than Scott.


Another player I like is Admiral Schofield from Tennessee. Has good size at that small forward position, can possibly play the 4, and can hit from outside. His age (22) might scare teams off, but if he's still there in the 2nd round when we pick again, I think we should draft him. I like his teammate Grant Williams too.

Schofield has terrible size for his skillset, can pass a bit but super rudimentary and can't handle the ball at 6-4, 6-5 in shoes, mediocre length, his 3 ball is pretty average, can't D up

He is a fake prospect, absolute do not draft, has no chance to stick in the league unless you want him for his intangibles in the lockeer room (supposedly really good teammate) as your 15th guy, but again, waste of a draft pick

Grant Williams is a top15 prospect


Cool, good info. I definitely like Grant WIlliams too. Having seen a few UT games based off of where I live both he and Schoefield were the ones that stuck out. I wonder if Williams is on our radar? I know a lot of mocks have him going second round which seems a bit late to me.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1596 » by LloydFree » Mon May 20, 2019 10:53 pm

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Negrodamus wrote:I remember someone posting clips of the difference between him and Culver off ball. NAW understands spacing and reading his man to get himself open. Culver was strictly and on ball player.

NAW has an excellent shooting profile while SGA was more theoretical. In this mediocre draft, a sophomore with his tools seems more of a no brainer than many of the guys projected in the top 10.


I like NAW better than a lot of guys mocked in the Top 10, too, but teams picking there could view him as a safe, but non needle-moving Gary Harris type and they'd rather convince themselves that Jarrett Culver can be a star.

I can see that. I really don't see NAW as a needle mover either. Pretty similar to how I perceived Gary Harris talent wise in that draft. Could be wrong again.
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Post#1597 » by LloydFree » Mon May 20, 2019 11:18 pm

At #24, it's hard to expect to get a great player. But there are a number of players being mocked in the 2nd half of the 1st round who I doubt are even service-able NBA bench players:

Cam Johnson - Poor man's Justin Jackson
Grant Williams - Poor Man's Jared Sulinger
Goga Bitadze - Poor Man's Alex Len

Any one of them is a waste of the Caphold associated with the pick.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1598 » by Kobblehead » Tue May 21, 2019 12:32 am

The updated aggregated mock is garbage in the late 20s.

https://hoopshype.com/2019/05/15/2019-nba-mock-draft-zion-williamson-lottery-results/

There are several guys in the 40s I would take over any of the dudes mocked in the 20s.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1599 » by PhilasFinest » Tue May 21, 2019 2:14 am

LloydFree wrote:At #24, it's hard to expect to get a great player. But there are a number of players being mocked in the 2nd half of the 1st round who I doubt are even service-able NBA bench players:

Cam Johnson - Poor man's Justin Jackson
Grant Williams - Poor Man's Jared Sulinger
Goga Bitadze - Poor Man's Alex Len

Any one of them is a waste of the Caphold associated with the pick.


I really don't get the hate for Cam Johnson.

I understand his ceiling is limited and he's an upperclassmen.....but at the end of the 1st/Early 2nd?
Dude has been a knockdown perimeter shooter essentially his entire career. Thats a coveted NBA skill. I think you could do much worse then bringing in a guy with the ability to become a role player who specializes in knocking down the open 3 with some size.

Now I personally would rather draft someone like Norvelle,Okpala or Louis King with our 1st.....but I cant see how Johnson isn't draft able. If his shot translates, I certainly think its worth a 2nd round pick.
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Re: 2018-2019 College Basketball / '19 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#1600 » by Mik317 » Tue May 21, 2019 3:34 am

Johnson makes more sense at 33 IMO. Yeah its late but at 24 I'd still bank on some upside on a more locked in deal than a guy who make be a wastemen from day 1.

Yeah we need win now help but I still think that tie breaker should always go to upside. Its the age ole Thad Young V Al Thorton dilemma IMO. This does not mean age either but actual upside. Like you draft a guy to do one thing only to find out he can do a bit more. Thats what seperates the good teams from the great IMO. The Spurs live off that ****.
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