So Now What? Post-Butler Plans

LloydFree · Post #1321 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:30 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Since Davis & Simmons are repped by clutch, a trade of Simmons for Davis is probably highly unlikely as the Pels would just lose Simmons in the future.

Thinking two steps ahead, I wouldn't be surprised if Clutch isn't planning to send Simmons to the Lakers as LeBron James replacement to play with Anthony Davis, when LeBron's contract is up. So it's imperative to get this Championship in the next 3-4 years.

XDevilBoiX · Post #1322 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 4:32 pm

LloydFree wrote:
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Since Davis & Simmons are repped by clutch, a trade of Simmons for Davis is probably highly unlikely as the Pels would just lose Simmons in the future.

Thinking two steps ahead, I wouldn't be surprised if Clutch isn't planning to send Simmons to the Lakers as LeBron James replacement to play with Anthony Davis, when LeBron's contract is up. So it's imperative to get this Championship in the next 3-4 years.

I was thinking the same thing when news of the AD broke. LBJ has this all planned out

VDT · Post #1323 » by **VDT** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 7:08 pm

Simmons has one more year in his rookie contract and 5 more years afterwards. So even if he request a trade before his last year that will be 5 years from now.

That is a long time to predict anything. For one Giannis free agency is a lot earlier and if the Lakers get him it is hard to see those two playing together. Then there is the relationship between Simmons and Embiid. Whether it will be more like Shaq-Kobe or Jordan-Pippen will be determined by the chemistry between them and their relative level of play.

Post #1324 » by **Sixerscan** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 7:20 pm

I think they would be trying to win a title in the next 4-5 years regardless of who Ben Simmons' agent is.

FireMorey · Post #1325 » by **FireMorey** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 7:24 pm

Not to be "random internet dude with sources guy" but I heard from someone I trust greatly that the Sixers are going to go hardcore after Kawhi Leonard this summer. Don't think the Sixers are his #1 preferred destination, but I think the Sixers will be one of the teams he will consider.

Just throwing it out there.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1326 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 7:59 pm

ProcessTrusta wrote:Not to be "random internet dude with sources guy" but I heard from someone I trust greatly that the Sixers are going to go hardcore after Kawhi Leonard this summer. Don't think the Sixers are his #1 preferred destination, but I think the Sixers will be one of the teams he will consider.

Just throwing it out there.

Would love it but have a tough time seeing him pick us over the Clippers or Raptors.

PhillyPhilly · Post #1327 » by **PhillyPhilly** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 8:47 pm

ProcessTrusta wrote:Not to be "random internet dude with sources guy" but I heard from someone I trust greatly that the Sixers are going to go hardcore after Kawhi Leonard this summer. Don't think the Sixers are his #1 preferred destination, but I think the Sixers will be one of the teams he will consider.

Just throwing it out there.

Respected NBA reporter Chris Haynes said at the time Kawhi was on the trade block that "the sixers are one of the few teams he wouldn't mind joining and would consider an extention". Word is his uncle/agent is a sixers fan and actually lives in New Jersey, so there just might be a chance if Brand and co can get a meeting.

LloydFree · Post #1328 » by **LloydFree** » Sat Feb 2, 2019 9:10 pm

VDT wrote:Simmons has one more year in his rookie contract and 5 more years afterwards. So even if he request a trade before his last year that will be 5 years from now.

That is a long time to predict anything. For one Giannis free agency is a lot earlier and if the Lakers get him it is hard to see those two playing together. Then there is the relationship between Simmons and Embiid. Whether it will be more like Shaq-Kobe or Jordan-Pippen will be determined by the chemistry between them and their relative level of play.

I think Mark Cuban is setting up the fix for Giannis.

51X3RF4N · Post #1329 » by **51X3RF4N** » Sun Feb 3, 2019 1:55 am

ProcessTrusta wrote:Not to be "random internet dude with sources guy" but I heard from someone I trust greatly that the Sixers are going to go hardcore after Kawhi Leonard this summer. Don't think the Sixers are his #1 preferred destination, but I think the Sixers will be one of the teams he will consider.

Just throwing it out there.

If that is the "plan", as in "plan A", then I suspect Markelle will be traded at the deadline for an expiring Vet who can help with a push this year. Shame really.

Arsenal · Post #1330 » by **Arsenal** » Sun Feb 3, 2019 2:22 am

LloydFree wrote:
VDT wrote:Simmons has one more year in his rookie contract and 5 more years afterwards. So even if he request a trade before his last year that will be 5 years from now.

That is a long time to predict anything. For one Giannis free agency is a lot earlier and if the Lakers get him it is hard to see those two playing together. Then there is the relationship between Simmons and Embiid. Whether it will be more like Shaq-Kobe or Jordan-Pippen will be determined by the chemistry between them and their relative level of play.

I think Mark Cuban is setting up the fix for Giannis.

This is pretty well established. They're planning to have MAX cap space in 2021 to take a hard run at Giannis to team him up with Doncic and Porzingis. Not sure if there are any other major free agents that summer, so it'll be all about Giannis then.

Arsenal · Post #1331 » by **Arsenal** » Sun Feb 3, 2019 2:35 am

51X3RF4N wrote:
ProcessTrusta wrote:Not to be "random internet dude with sources guy" but I heard from someone I trust greatly that the Sixers are going to go hardcore after Kawhi Leonard this summer. Don't think the Sixers are his #1 preferred destination, but I think the Sixers will be one of the teams he will consider.

Just throwing it out there.
If that is the "plan", as in "plan A", then I suspect Markelle will be traded at the deadline for an expiring Vet who can help with a push this year. Shame really.

Not necessarily. It won't be a problem to dump Fultz this summer to a team that has cap space assuming we get a commitment from Kawhi. We don't have to do anything now.

I assume the plan is to try to keep Butler AND get Kawhi. If both guys take a very slight discount vs. the MAX we can fit them both assuming we trade away Fultz and our 1st rounder for pure cap and/or future picks. Then I assume we'd ask Redick to resign for the Room Exception with the promise to make him whole the following year, then fill in the rest with vet mins. We can re-sign TJ too with Bird Rights since his cap hold is so small we wouldn't have to renounce him.

PG Redick | Shamet | TJ
SG Butler | Smith | ???
SF Leonard | ??? | ???
PF Simmons | Bolden | ???
CE Embiid | ??? | ???

So we'd have 9 players and need to sign 5 guys. I assume we fill a spot with Shake Milton. May finally bring over Vasilije Micic also.

Then 3 vet mins. Prob bring Chandler back unless he gets a better offer. Same with Muscala. Perhaps Patton also.

SixerfanOH · Post #1332 » by **SixerfanOH** » Sun Feb 3, 2019 5:22 pm

If Knicks sign KD and Kyrie and draft RJ Barret (or Xion), Riddick might want to sign with them for less to chase a chip and be closer to home

NoDopeOnSundays · Post #1333 » by **NoDopeOnSundays** » Mon Feb 4, 2019 12:08 am

SixerfanOH wrote:If Knicks sign KD and Kyrie and draft RJ Barret (or Xion), Riddick might want to sign with them for less to chase a chip and be closer to home

Of the two NY teams, the Nets would be the bigger threat for Reddick since his family lives in Brooklyn, plus they wanted him two years ago.

Kobblehead · Post #1334 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Feb 4, 2019 2:33 pm

So we're probably not trading Jimmy Butler, right?

MR28 · Post #1335 » by **MR28** » Mon Feb 4, 2019 2:39 pm

Kobblehead wrote:So we're probably not trading Jimmy Butler, right?

I would imagine not, have you heard rumblings otherwise?

Kobblehead · Post #1336 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Feb 4, 2019 2:48 pm

Nah, I'm just curious about how the front office views him, longterm. And if he wants to be here.

For instance, if his endgame is playing for the Clippers with Kawhi, I could see the logic in flipping him to L.A. for Tobias Harris plus salary.

Harris wouldn't be too much of a dropoff in impact and an even better fit so the Sixers wouldn't be mailing it in on their playoff run this year.

It would be a chance for both the Sixers and Clippers to have an audition period for each respective player they could possible sign this summer.

Just stream of thought.

kio80 · Post #1337 » by **kio80** » Mon Feb 4, 2019 3:47 pm

I know I am gonna get a lot of hate for this.
But have we considered Embiid for AD?
It actually makes sense, think of what we have now, with Simmons at the point , we can run a lineup without a traditional center.

Small ball line up, extremely quick up and down the court, we will be bucks on steroids....

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Kobblehead · Post #1338 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Feb 4, 2019 4:18 pm

It's an interesting premise. One I'm sure Rich Paul would be fine with.

However, I'm sure LeBron would step in and pull an executive decision at Klutch to block that.

As of now, Davis is the only impact star that has expressed any desire to play with LeBron (other than rumblings of Kyrie interest in a reunion). LeBron is probably feeling really insecure and desperate and won't let Rich Paul direct AD anywhere but L.A.

76ciology · Post #1339 » by **76ciology** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 12:47 pm

Now with Tobias..

In the fourth quarters or crunch time, Ben and Biid can focus on defense and let Tobias and Butler do their thing on offense. Elite defense with good ts% offense and little TO rate.

I also feel like we have enough length to play 3v4 defense whenever we trap the guy who’s trying to attack JJ on defense

76ciology · Post #1340 » by **76ciology** » Thu Feb 7, 2019 5:07 pm

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