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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#441 » by LloydFree » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:06 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
LloydFree wrote:Almost.

Switch that last part about "bad FG attempts and turnovers" to "kick outs to Robert Horry, Sam Cassel, Vernon Maxwell, Kenny Smith and Mario Elie for wide open 3 pointers."

Would he have, though?

Olajuwan held a nearly single digit assist rate through his 20s. He didn't really become a ball mover until he aged out of his prime. The Rockets only chance to catch the Bulls slipping would have been the early 90s when Hakeem was at his peak. Just so happened to be the point of his career where he was a bit of a black hole, though.

As I said before, the Rockets regularly beat the Bulls back then and weren't intimidated by them. I'm not sure that would change in the Finals. But whatever...

The point is that being dogmatic about what "type" or "style" of player you need to win Championship, doesn't make your conclusion right. Teams have won with 2-way wings, Strong 5 man defense, Dominant Big men and stretch 4's surrounded by role players. The point is that you win because you have the best talent, and you play a system that compliments the talent.
Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down
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Post#442 » by Kobblehead » Sun Aug 18, 2019 6:28 pm

I'm just pointing out that there's an overwhelming amount of precedent that suggests you need a star level scorer on the ball initiating the offense from the perimeter and taking the big shots if you want to win a title.

And that trying to win a title while running your offense through a postscorer is extremely hard and becoming increasingly obsolete in the last 20 years.
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Post#443 » by Bum Adebayo » Mon Aug 19, 2019 1:22 pm

Being hard is what makes it better though. What is the point in copying the formula, there is less merit. Warriors made their own formula, now it is time to innovate and find a newer one.
My issue is simply that I think Embiid is not good enough on offense when it matters, not capable of carrying a scoring load against certain defenders/double teams, etc.
Not an issue in any shape or form of him being a big man.
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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#444 » by oldshoolballer » Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:37 am

Kobblehead wrote:I'm just pointing out that there's an overwhelming amount of precedent that suggests you need a star level scorer on the ball initiating the offense from the perimeter and taking the big shots if you want to win a title.

And that trying to win a title while running your offense through a postscorer is extremely hard and becoming increasingly obsolete in the last 20 years.

This is something the Bucks as good as they are,are finding out with Giannis Without a reliable perimeter shot he's not the closer with the game on the line They usually went with Middleton or Brogdan Last year for the Sixers you knew it was Butler with the ball in a close game in crunchtime.My guess is Harris has the ball in that situation until/if Simmons ever gets a perimeter shot.
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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#445 » by LloydFree » Thu Aug 22, 2019 11:55 pm

Tobias Harris sweating a bunch of that weight off, getting ready to play SF full-time. Better work on them calves though.


Fischella wrote:I think none of you guys that are pro-Embiid no how basketball works today.. is way easier to win it all with Omer Asik than Olajuwon.
Actually if you ask me which Center I want for my perfect championship caliber team, I will chose Asik hands down

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