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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#581 » by mjkvol » Thu Mar 12, 2020 7:04 pm

The more this season has gone on, the more I'm of the belief that trading Harris should be the primary focus in the off season. At his age and with the production he offers, I can't imagine that a move couldn't be made for a McCollum or Lavine without the need to give up a valuable young asset or high pick.

I think that Horford over time would accept the role of leading the second unit and starting when Jo or Ben are out. This last road trip he has begun to do some of the things we expected to see when he was signed, and doesn't seem to have deteriorated like many were believing he had. Add a scoring guard who can play on or off the ball in place of Harris, and the lineup even becomes more balanced even when Horford is starting.
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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#582 » by M2J » Fri Mar 13, 2020 9:56 am

mjkvol wrote:The more this season has gone on, the more I'm of the belief that trading Harris should be the primary focus in the off season. At his age and with the production he offers, I can't imagine that a move couldn't be made for a McCollum or Lavine without the need to give up a valuable young asset or high pick.

I think that Horford over time would accept the role of leading the second unit and starting when Jo or Ben are out. This last road trip he has begun to do some of the things we expected to see when he was signed, and doesn't seem to have deteriorated like many were believing he had. Add a scoring guard who can play on or off the ball in place of Harris, and the lineup even becomes more balanced even when Horford is starting.


Unlikely to get Lavine for him without an asset attached, but possibly CJ as I think he fits a need for Portland, and they definitely need to change things.
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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#583 » by youngcrev » Fri Mar 13, 2020 12:24 pm

M2J wrote:I don't disagree that shooting is definitely necessary. But seeing as Harris has the ability to be a high level shooter. Trading for Richardson, who is a better shooter than a guy like Butler, and actually shot great off of catch and shoot opportunities last year. Horford was good from that range the past 2 years too, though that was as a center. Plus seeing how horrible they were without Joel in the floor. I can see the mindset. When you have JJ Reddick starting and not playing defense. Adding decent shooters, and have this type of defensive potential wasn't a bad idea. It hasn't played out perfectly though for a number of reasons, though I'm not sure that with some consistent health, it wouldn't play out well in the playoffs.

I think health has been the biggest issue with this season, then the all big lineup experiment. With the lineup adjustment and health, it could be saved.


Not sure I'd call Harris a high level shooter. He's a scorer that takes jump shots at above average efficiency. Won't argue this too hard though since its really just a semantics thing.

And great is an overstatement for how Richardson was in catch and shoot situations last year (catch and shoot specific numbers skew higher than overall 3 point percentages if that's what you're comparing them to).

I think these 2 are pretty good fits in a lineup with Embiid and Simmons actually, but you've got a major playmaking hole that needs to be filled out by that 5th starter. Which makes allocating your remaining cap in the form of a 4 year/109M deal to a 33 year old center pretty insane.
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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#584 » by ProcessDoctor » Fri Mar 13, 2020 2:12 pm

M2J wrote:
mjkvol wrote:The more this season has gone on, the more I'm of the belief that trading Harris should be the primary focus in the off season. At his age and with the production he offers, I can't imagine that a move couldn't be made for a McCollum or Lavine without the need to give up a valuable young asset or high pick.

I think that Horford over time would accept the role of leading the second unit and starting when Jo or Ben are out. This last road trip he has begun to do some of the things we expected to see when he was signed, and doesn't seem to have deteriorated like many were believing he had. Add a scoring guard who can play on or off the ball in place of Harris, and the lineup even becomes more balanced even when Horford is starting.


Unlikely to get Lavine for him without an asset attached, but possibly CJ as I think he fits a need for Portland, and they definitely need to change things.


I’d add Zhaire, two 1sts, and take Porter off their hands to get Zach. He adds almost everything we need and is only 24.
2019-2020 Philadelphia 76ers:

Simmons/Milton/Neto
Richardson/Korkmaz/Smith
Robinson/Burks/Thybulle
Harris/Scott
Embiid/Horford/Pelle/O’Quinn
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Re: Welcome Tobias Harris 

Post#585 » by Monix » Wed Jun 3, 2020 6:40 pm

proud to have Tobias as part of the organization - regardless of how one feels about his contract or shooting percentage or whatever this is the kind of man we should all want on the teams that we follow

his leadership on the team and investment in the community are exemplary along with his willingness to be out in front of this...

https://www.theplayerstribune.com/en-us/articles/tobias-harris-philadelphia-76ers-racial-injustice

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