Markelle Fultz VIII: The Aftermath
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I guess we are too blame in this as well. Maybe if we hadn't been so supportive of him, he'd have pushed himself to be better. Which is apparently the issue, not TOS, which is also the issue?
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LloydFree wrote:ProcessTrusta wrote:I wouldn’t be shocked if he retired within a year. For each excuse and lie for why he can’t shoot is made, the pressure on him mounts more and more. He’s doing damage to his own psyche and he doesn’t even see it. Once he declares hes 100% “healed” from TOS, everyone is going to expect him to shoot normally again. A lot of unnecessary pressure on Himself. Man he has bad council.
I just think if it gets to a point where if by year 3 he still hasn’t overcome him forgetting how to shoot, I could see him retiring and just walking away.
I disagree. His council put him in position to get himself drafted #1, while not being any good. Which ensured him of making 25 million from the 76ers and 5 million more from Nike. Then they managed to keep the charade going long enough to get him traded for another 1st, and a chance to bank another 12 million dollar option. I bet guys like Cliff Alexander, Skal Labbiserre and the Harrison twins, wish they had advisors like Fultz's guys.
I was just about to come here and write. Say what you want about Fultz. But Raymond Brothers, his agent, has done an excellent job representing and getting his client paid.
But you said it better.
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Bum Adebayo wrote:As soon as he is not with our team, the opinion on him on this forum has plummeted. Guys that supported him stopped doing so.
I was willing to let bygones be bygones and chalk his issues to being a kid, but he’s going out of his way to be disliked now. Now he’s just another guy in the NBA. I always hope former Sixers play well; I don’t care about Fultz anymore.
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i don't feel bad about drafting Fultz, because we have Jimmy Butler and i doubt Tatum will ever be as good as Butler.
Tatum has a chance at being as good as Tobias Harris.
so whether Fultz had become an all-star or if we drafted Tatum instead, we wouldn't be better than we are now.
Tatum has a chance at being as good as Tobias Harris.
so whether Fultz had become an all-star or if we drafted Tatum instead, we wouldn't be better than we are now.
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Head just explodedStanford wrote:I guess we are too blame in this as well. Maybe if we hadn't been so supportive of him, he'd have pushed himself to be better. Which is apparently the issue, not TOS, which is also the issue?
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Stanford wrote:I guess we are too blame in this as well. Maybe if we hadn't been so supportive of him, he'd have pushed himself to be better. Which is apparently the issue, not TOS, which is also the issue?
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Glad he's gone at this point. No one has been more supportive of him than Philly from his teammates to the fans and the coaches.
He will have to continue in Orlando on his quest to supplant Anthony Bennett as the greatest bust in NBA history. Quite an achievement.
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Seriously, don't throw shade at the dude who nearly cried when he announced you'd be playing.
**** Markelle Fultz forever. Boo his ass.
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Heidi4Ben wrote:i don't feel bad about drafting Fultz, because we have Jimmy Butler and i doubt Tatum will ever be as good as Butler.
Tatum has a chance at being as good as Tobias Harris.
so whether Fultz had become an all-star or if we drafted Tatum instead, we wouldn't be better than we are now.
What has Butler got to do with Fultz?
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Stanford wrote:Seriously, don't throw shade at the dude who nearly cried when he announced you'd be playing.
**** Markelle Fultz forever. Boo his ass.
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Seriously. What an ungrateful chode.
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MVP1992 wrote:Heidi4Ben wrote:i don't feel bad about drafting Fultz, because we have Jimmy Butler and i doubt Tatum will ever be as good as Butler.
Tatum has a chance at being as good as Tobias Harris.
so whether Fultz had become an all-star or if we drafted Tatum instead, we wouldn't be better than we are now.
What has Butler got to do with Fultz?
because even if Fultz had a really good rookie season he wouldn't be good enough to start for Philly this season, because we've got Butler so Fultz being a failure isn't a big deal....
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We'll have to live with the fact he's an all-time whiff as a number one pick.
The thing is its pretty obvious he is immature, and that's something you can scout for. I haven't seen the presser but judging from the responses here his immaturity seems obvious.
I was pro trading up to get Fultz at the time but if I knew he was this bad in terms of his mental makeup I don't think I'd even take him at three overall, let alone throwing away most of the equity of the Kings pick on him as well as our own pick.
We have wasted a ton of draft equity during the process; its sickening to think about really.
The thing is its pretty obvious he is immature, and that's something you can scout for. I haven't seen the presser but judging from the responses here his immaturity seems obvious.
I was pro trading up to get Fultz at the time but if I knew he was this bad in terms of his mental makeup I don't think I'd even take him at three overall, let alone throwing away most of the equity of the Kings pick on him as well as our own pick.
We have wasted a ton of draft equity during the process; its sickening to think about really.
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What a wimp. He's probably kissing his Mom for Valentines Day.
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PLO wrote:We'll have to live with the fact he's an all-time whiff as a number one pick.
The thing is its pretty obvious he is immature, and that's something you can scout for. I haven't seen the presser but judging from the responses here his immaturity seems obvious.
I was pro trading up to get Fultz at the time but if I knew he was this bad in terms of his mental makeup I don't think I'd even take him at three overall, let alone throwing away most of the equity of the Kings pick on him as well as our own pick.
We have wasted a ton of draft equity during the process; its sickening to think about really.
we still have arguably the best starting 5 in the NBA, so wasting some of the picks didn't matter....
and if we drafted Tatum our starting 5 would be weaker, because Simmons, Embiid, Butler, Harris and Redick are all better than Tatum
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I saw this coming with his tweets from the last benching in Nov. This kid is a joke, I don’t see him playing in Philly if he does play again. He will sit out games here with some type of BS injury.
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PLO wrote:We'll have to live with the fact he's an all-time whiff as a number one pick.
The thing is its pretty obvious he is immature, and that's something you can scout for. I haven't seen the presser but judging from the responses here his immaturity seems obvious.
I was pro trading up to get Fultz at the time but if I knew he was this bad in terms of his mental makeup I don't think I'd even take him at three overall, let alone throwing away most of the equity of the Kings pick on him as well as our own pick.
We have wasted a ton of draft equity during the process; its sickening to think about really.
Yea, it's problematic that our scouting didn't really look into his personality. I don't remember the courting process, and perhaps Markelle's availability was limited, but the miss on that draft might be the difference in (a) championship(s) down the road.
I recognize that he was a nice prospect, but he was not the top prospect at any point during that process, in my opinion. I remember my first reaction to the trade up was "I would have rather we just trade the third pick for D'Angelo Russell if we're going to just draft Fultz". Would have saved us some headache (and a draft pick) while acquiring a similarly aged (to our current stars) prospect who is now an all star.
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Heidi4Ben wrote:PLO wrote:We'll have to live with the fact he's an all-time whiff as a number one pick.
The thing is its pretty obvious he is immature, and that's something you can scout for. I haven't seen the presser but judging from the responses here his immaturity seems obvious.
I was pro trading up to get Fultz at the time but if I knew he was this bad in terms of his mental makeup I don't think I'd even take him at three overall, let alone throwing away most of the equity of the Kings pick on him as well as our own pick.
We have wasted a ton of draft equity during the process; its sickening to think about really.
we still have arguably the best starting 5 in the NBA, so wasting some of the picks didn't matter....
and if we drafted Tatum our starting 5 would be weaker, because Simmons, Embiid, Butler, Harris and Redick are all better than Tatum
Tatum is 20 years of age or so and on a cost controlled contract with all-star upside. He’d also fit pretty neatly into our lineup. In three years time Reddick might be out of the league, Butler will likely be slowing down drastically and Tatum wouldn’t have even reached his prime. Even if you just think of him as a trade asset he has more value than Reddick and Butler combined.
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Eyeamok wrote:PhillyFan11 wrote:Actually the most “normal” I’ve seen Markelle in a press conference. Almost seemed like a normal kid...
But with that said, still no accountability on his part. Sounds like he wants to put blame on the Sixers, but was coached not to say too much. Definitely subtle hints in there tho. He can’t blame the Sixers for not finding that 1 specialist that would diagnose TOS, the cba gives the players the right to control their own diagnosis and medical care. If he felt something was still wrong and kept going with the Sixers doctors that’s on him/his camp.
Don’t wish the kid any ill will, but certainly not a fan and won’t be rooting for him
Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?
I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.
I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.
i think at this point we have to. The date to do this is June i believe, and I dont think that is enough to time truly make a decision, so they will err on the side of caution and extend him.
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I want to sue “Snakeangelo” for negligence and I want to sue “Faultz” for fraud, deception, and theft of service. Is that too much to ask?
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tiderulz wrote:Eyeamok wrote:PhillyFan11 wrote:Actually the most “normal” I’ve seen Markelle in a press conference. Almost seemed like a normal kid...
But with that said, still no accountability on his part. Sounds like he wants to put blame on the Sixers, but was coached not to say too much. Definitely subtle hints in there tho. He can’t blame the Sixers for not finding that 1 specialist that would diagnose TOS, the cba gives the players the right to control their own diagnosis and medical care. If he felt something was still wrong and kept going with the Sixers doctors that’s on him/his camp.
Don’t wish the kid any ill will, but certainly not a fan and won’t be rooting for him
Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?
I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.
I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.
i think at this point we have to. The date to do this is June i believe, and I dont think that is enough to time truly make a decision, so they will err on the side of caution and extend him.
The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.
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LloydFree wrote:tiderulz wrote:Eyeamok wrote:
Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?
I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.
I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.
i think at this point we have to. The date to do this is June i believe, and I dont think that is enough to time truly make a decision, so they will err on the side of caution and extend him.
The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.
There will always be fools like BC around to give these guys chances. Especially one with the label of being a no.1 pick.