Markelle Fultz VIII: The Aftermath

[LloydFree]

The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.

There will always be fools like BC around to give these guys chances. Especially one with the label of being a no.1 pick.

The good thing about the 76ers, is that even though we've drafted some of the worst draft stiffs in NBA history, at the top of the draft, we've historically gotten rid of those bums before we extended them on a 2nd contract. It's almost better that guys like Shawn Bradley, Sharone Wright, Evan Turner, Okafor and Markelle Fultz were such terrific failures. That way we never got suckered into compounding those mistakes, before the GMs that drafted them got fired.

[Simmons25]

I've always had his back but now I hope he fails miserably. He is immature and obviously has the wrong people around him and in his ear (But we already knew that). Went went out of our way to treat him well... and is the way he repays us. I hope Fultz is healthy enough to just come back and play 1 game at Philly so that the crowd can tell him what they really feel. Orlando's problem now.

[gdog2004]

Did the doctors really find out he had TOS. Or was this just the last diagnosis they could find. How long is TOS supposed to keep a healthy young man down?

I am so intrigued by this entire situation. I know he is now Orlando's problem but it is still intriguing to me. When he talks about his symptoms, notice how he never thinks about it, he just looks down, like he is reading from a script and shrugs his shoulders, almost to say I don't know. And he goes on detailing things that you could read about on the internet. No real personal insight. At the 13:33 mark something happens to him. Seems kind of involuntary, And then all the while his hands are clasped. He is not relaxed everything seems so well scripted.

I wonder if the magic are going to extend him. Because it does not look like he is going to play this season.

i think at this point we have to. The date to do this is June i believe, and I dont think that is enough to time truly make a decision, so they will err on the side of caution and extend him.

The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.

LOL...you are so right man. I love how not one doctor is willing to put his name on this bogus diagnosis. Only Markelles agent/lawyer.
Somehow I feel his agent/lawyer is just like this guy.

[Ben Simmons]

We'll have to live with the fact he's an all-time whiff as a number one pick.

The thing is its pretty obvious he is immature, and that's something you can scout for. I haven't seen the presser but judging from the responses here his immaturity seems obvious.

I was pro trading up to get Fultz at the time but if I knew he was this bad in terms of his mental makeup I don't think I'd even take him at three overall, let alone throwing away most of the equity of the Kings pick on him as well as our own pick.

We have wasted a ton of draft equity during the process; its sickening to think about really.

we still have arguably the best starting 5 in the NBA, so wasting some of the picks didn't matter....
and if we drafted Tatum our starting 5 would be weaker, because Simmons, Embiid, Butler, Harris and Redick are all better than Tatum

Tatum is 20 years of age or so and on a cost controlled contract with all-star upside. He’d also fit pretty neatly into our lineup. In three years time Reddick might be out of the league, Butler will likely be slowing down drastically and Tatum wouldn’t have even reached his prime. Even if you just think of him as a trade asset he has more value than Reddick and Butler combined.

oh i was thinking about just this year and next year, because we are trying to win a championship

[Negrodamus]

we still have arguably the best starting 5 in the NBA, so wasting some of the picks didn't matter....
and if we drafted Tatum our starting 5 would be weaker, because Simmons, Embiid, Butler, Harris and Redick are all better than Tatum

Tatum is 20 years of age or so and on a cost controlled contract with all-star upside. He’d also fit pretty neatly into our lineup. In three years time Reddick might be out of the league, Butler will likely be slowing down drastically and Tatum wouldn’t have even reached his prime. Even if you just think of him as a trade asset he has more value than Reddick and Butler combined.

oh i was thinking about just this year and next year, because we are trying to win a championship

Well, we’re trying to win multiple championships.

[Eyeamok]

i think at this point we have to. The date to do this is June i believe, and I dont think that is enough to time truly make a decision, so they will err on the side of caution and extend him.

The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.

LOL...you are so right man. I love how not one doctor is willing to put his name on this bogus diagnosis. Only Markelles agent/lawyer.
Somehow I feel his agent/lawyer is just like this guy.

Oh Man you have gone to far. Are you trying to insinuate tha Jackie Chiles is not a savvy and above board attorney. Absolutely ridiculous, egregious and blasphemous!!!

[Samson]

Absolutely ridiculous, egregious and blasphemous!!!* === confirmed.

Is that going to be a problem?? Yes!!! It's going to be a problem -- for them!!

[LloydFree]

The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.

LOL...you are so right man. I love how not one doctor is willing to put his name on this bogus diagnosis. Only Markelles agent/lawyer.
Somehow I feel his agent/lawyer is just like this guy.

Call his representation what you want, but they're writing the blue print for over-rated college recruits trying to maximize their earnings. Limit the player's exposure at all costs, and let the idiots build the player up to be the next Kyrie Irving (or whoever else) sight-unseen. Then wait for the dumber GMs to draft (or trade) according to fan chatter, to sell tickets.

[gdog2004]

The date is in October. He should be able to fake his way to that date. He should be praised for his ability to keep this going. He'll be in year 4 of this charade by then. LOL.

LOL...you are so right man. I love how not one doctor is willing to put his name on this bogus diagnosis. Only Markelles agent/lawyer.
Somehow I feel his agent/lawyer is just like this guy.

Call his representation what you want, but they're writing the blue print for over-rated college recruits trying to maximize their earnings. Limit the player's exposure at all costs, and let the idiots build the player up to be the next Kyrie Irving (or whoever else) sight-unseen. Then wait for the dumber GMs to draft (or trade) according to fan chatter, to sell tickets.

Nah. Markelle was rated top 1-3 pretty unanimously and at worst top 5.
He has some mental block whether it be anxiety or depression or whatever that he refuses to come clean on so instead his agent decides to go to every doctor in the world to try and find some obscure diagnosis that no one can verify and no doctor will put his name to it. If he was just honest with himself and the Sixers things would have been fine. It is bad management from top to bottom.

[KramerDSP]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=204&v=EZNhIR8Usdc

13:33...what is that?

It almost seemed like an involuntary tic he was trying to surpress, as if he has some type of Tourette's.

[Chris76]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=204&v=EZNhIR8Usdc

13:33...what is that?

It almost seemed like an involuntary tic he was trying to surpress, as if he has some type of Tourette's.

That involuntary tic is the Yips.

Can Fultz be a productive player with the Yips? That's a tough question, most people stop playing to avoid the embarrassment. Barkley's golf swing is a good example of the embarrassment.

However, Fultz in Orlando as their main PG could be very good with Isaac, Bamba, and others. The Yips hasn't hurt his midrange pull-ups, besides his efficiency with the Sixers.

A more confident, non set shot shooting Fultz could average 15/5/5 with good defense for Orlando even with the Yips.

[Skybox]

Can’t blame you guys for being salty but, IMO, he was not referring to Brown with his comment. Just a nervous, inarticulate kid regurgitating the Clifford bio...”holds players accountable”, “gives it to them straight” etc. this kid’s got confidence issues, for sure. ORL now has tremendous advantage of seeing what didn’t work with him in PHI. Not excusing MF’s bizarre situation or blaming anything PHI did or didn’t do but it’s a good risk for ORL and wasn’t likely to get better in PHI.

[Audi]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=204&v=EZNhIR8Usdc

13:33...what is that?

It almost seemed like an involuntary tic he was trying to surpress, as if he has some type of Tourette's.

It’s as if...he has a syndrome...one in which involuntary spasms of the scapular muscles is a symptom...like...TOS or something.

[ivysixer2000]

Well obviously we all hate what happened and all the hopes and expectations we had being dashed.

I would probably boo him as loud as anyone, but at the end of the day, I'm still hoping this doesn't blow up in our faces....cause guess what, it still could no matter how much in denial we are about it.

I hate that dude now, but its still has to be in the back of the mind.

[Ben Simmons]

hopefully he'll be the next Michael Jordan or at least half as good, because that would make a story that the world has never seen before

[ankle420breaker]

13:33...what is that?

It almost seemed like an involuntary tic he was trying to surpress, as if he has some type of Tourette's.

It’s as if...he has a syndrome...one in which involuntary spasms of the scapular muscles is a symptom...like...TOS or something.

Perhaps, nevertheless we found it a bit concerning that no doctor/specialist (of the many they met with) was willing to attach their name to that single TOS diasgnosis, which happens to be a totally ambiguous type of injury with a completely subjective recovery timeline.

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[ProcessDoctor]

13:33...what is that?

It almost seemed like an involuntary tic he was trying to surpress, as if he has some type of Tourette's.

It’s as if...he has a syndrome...one in which involuntary spasms of the scapular muscles is a symptom...like...TOS or something.

Oh, maybe you're right. Would you be able to remind us which doctor put their name out there with this diagnosis?

[Audi]

It almost seemed like an involuntary tic he was trying to surpress, as if he has some type of Tourette's.

It’s as if...he has a syndrome...one in which involuntary spasms of the scapular muscles is a symptom...like...TOS or something.

Oh, maybe you're right. Would you be able to remind us which doctor put their name out there with this diagnosis?

I don’t have a name. A name not being publically and readily available to NBA fans doesn’t suddenly make a diagnosis fake. However, I would assume Phily’s medical staff, specifically Vice President of athlete care Dr. Daniel Medina, is competent enough to have reviewed the diagnosis and seen it wasn’t fabricated by a Dr. Smellmore Butz, before releasing an official statement on the matter. The same applies to Orlando’s medical team prior to finalizing the trade.

But in the mean time, we should probably rely on the expertise of forum members, beatwriters, and bloggers instead. That seems logical.

[ProcessDoctor]

It’s as if...he has a syndrome...one in which involuntary spasms of the scapular muscles is a symptom...like...TOS or something.

Oh, maybe you're right. Would you be able to remind us which doctor put their name out there with this diagnosis?

I don’t have a name. A name not being publically and readily available to NBA fans doesn’t suddenly make a diagnosis fake. However, I would assume Phily’s medical staff, specifically Vice President of athlete care Dr. Daniel Medina, is competent enough to have reviewed the diagnosis and seen it wasn’t fabricated by a Dr. Smellmore Butz, before releasing an official statement on the matter. The same applies to Orlando’s medical team prior to finalizing the trade.

But in the mean time, we should probably rely on the expertise of forum members, beatwriters, and bloggers instead. That seems logical.

I hope you got the gifts you wanted from Santa Claus last year.

[gdog2004]

It’s as if...he has a syndrome...one in which involuntary spasms of the scapular muscles is a symptom...like...TOS or something.

Oh, maybe you're right. Would you be able to remind us which doctor put their name out there with this diagnosis?

I don’t have a name. A name not being publically and readily available to NBA fans doesn’t suddenly make a diagnosis fake. However, I would assume Phily’s medical staff, specifically Vice President of athlete care Dr. Daniel Medina, is competent enough to have reviewed the diagnosis and seen it wasn’t fabricated by a Dr. Smellmore Butz, before releasing an official statement on the matter. The same applies to Orlando’s medical team prior to finalizing the trade.

But in the mean time, we should probably rely on the expertise of forum members, beatwriters, and bloggers instead. That seems logical.

You left out the team that traded two lottery picks to get him.
The team that saw him every day in practice for over 2 years.
The team that sent him a world renowned Physical Therapist.
If Markelle was physically injured, there is NO WAY they would trade him.
It's a made up PHYSICAL injury. He will ride this until you guys have to extend him in October(and pay him).