Summer 2019 Free Agency Thread

[Sixerscan]

After talking with a few Nets fans I respect, they seem to want Julius Randle as a fallback option from Kevin Durant, more so than Tobias Harris. They feel Jarret Allen needs a bigger four next to him than Embiid does.

Maybe the real issue is they need a better center than Jarrett Allen?

[Negrodamus]

So just curious, is the plan to max Butler, Harris this offseason then max Ben next offseason? How insanely into the luxury tax will we be at that point?

[youngcrev]

So just curious, is the plan to max Butler, Harris this offseason then max Ben next offseason? How insanely into the luxury tax will we be at that point?

If it's those 4 and a bunch of minimum/rookie salary guys, you might still be under the tax actually. Hopefully that's not what they have planned. I assume they stay under this year, and pay a hefty bill over the next 3.

[FlyingArrow]

So just curious, is the plan to max Butler, Harris this offseason then max Ben next offseason? How insanely into the luxury tax will we be at that point?

If it's those 4 and a bunch of minimum/rookie salary guys, you might still be under the tax actually. Hopefully that's not what they have planned. I assume they stay under this year, and pay a hefty bill over the next 3.

If we stay under this year, we will be very thin. We need to sign JJ, use the BAE, and use the MLE. If we have to stay under the luxury tax, using the full MLE and signing JJ will be almost impossible.

Either way, it will be a hefty bill eventually for sure.

[youngcrev]

So just curious, is the plan to max Butler, Harris this offseason then max Ben next offseason? How insanely into the luxury tax will we be at that point?

If it's those 4 and a bunch of minimum/rookie salary guys, you might still be under the tax actually. Hopefully that's not what they have planned. I assume they stay under this year, and pay a hefty bill over the next 3.

If we stay under this year, we will be very thin. We need to sign JJ, use the BAE, and use the MLE. If we have to stay under the luxury tax, using the full MLE and signing JJ will be almost impossible.

Either way, it will be a hefty bill eventually for sure.

Looks to me like you could bring back JJ/Scott and use the MLE and still be just under on the capulator. Maybe I'm missing something.

[FlyingArrow]

Looks to me like you could bring back JJ/Scott and use the MLE and still be just under on the capulator. Maybe I'm missing something.

No, you're right, assuming JJ and Mike Scott aren't too expensive. But if you do that and want to stay under the luxury tax there's nothing left (including no room to use the BAE). We have multiple holes to fill, most importantly a backup center and point guard. The MLE is the chance to make a significant improvement in the roster. If we split it to cover both PG and C, then we aren't improving that much.

[youngcrev]

Looks to me like you could bring back JJ/Scott and use the MLE and still be just under on the capulator. Maybe I'm missing something.

No, you're right, assuming JJ and Mike Scott aren't too expensive. But if you do that and want to stay under the luxury tax there's nothing left (including no room to use the BAE). We have multiple holes to fill, most importantly a backup center and point guard. The MLE is the chance to make a significant improvement in the roster. If we split it to cover both PG and C, then we aren't improving that much.

True, though with the depth of centers on the market, there could be some playable options out there even on a veteran minimum deal. I'm also not sure they'll be able to land any of the guys we've talked about as full MLE type options. A lot of our dream scenario additions likely get more money or a better opportunity elsewhere. If you could split that MLE between say Nerlens and George Hill, I think you'd be in very good shape.

[Tony Franciosa]

I don't care about luxury taxes. spend it wisely and I don't care how much over we go. not my money.

the benefit to ownership is potentially playing home games into June and getting extra ticket, parking, concession revenue. maybe not enough to cover the tax payment, but enough to offset the pain a bit?

[FlightBrothers]

Al Horford is opting out of his 30.1 million for next year (which I think is absurd), if IF we lose Tobias I may look at him for a 2 year deal if we can swing it. I assume he is opting out to sign a longer, more team friendly deal with the Celtics, but he could be a solid backup big for Embiid who can play some 4 (match up to the Gasol/Ibaka lineups better) and help us more in the short term.

I would prefer to sign Tobias and I do wonder what kind of contract Horford would be looking for.

[ProcessDoctor]

We should really try to swap J. Simmons for Illyasova and a pick.

[BullyKing]

We should really try to swap J. Simmons for Illyasova and a pick.

We'd be the one giving up the pick. Simmons contract would need to be guaranteed for the trade to work.

[Negrodamus]

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Shake SZN approaching.

[Negrodamus]

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Bro, what?

[Arsenal]

I don't care about luxury taxes. spend it wisely and I don't care how much over we go. not my money.

the benefit to ownership is potentially playing home games into June and getting extra ticket, parking, concession revenue. maybe not enough to cover the tax payment, but enough to offset the pain a bit?

We can't go into the luxury tax this year because of the repeater tax in the future. It's just not realistic.

This year is the final year we have to avoid the luxury tax. After this year we'll be a tax team for at least 2 years in a row.

[Arsenal]

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Bro, what?

He must have a new deal in place already. Same with Horford with the Celtics.

[Arsenal]

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Shake SZN approaching.

We need to save enough of the midlevel to sign Shake to a 4 year Hinkie special this summer.

[phillynative]

I guess the the thinking is that when teams miss out on the top free agents he is some type of back up option. Lol

[smittybanton]

After talking with a few Nets fans I respect, they seem to want Julius Randle as a fallback option from Kevin Durant, more so than Tobias Harris. They feel Jarret Allen needs a bigger four next to him than Embiid does.

Maybe the real issue is they need a better center than Jarrett Allen?

I dont think they will disagree. But easier said than done. I for one am glad the Celtics haven't found one with all those draft picks they've spent to complete their cipher, especially now that horford is opting out.

in the draft some of them like bruno fernando, goga, gafford, etc....

[smittybanton]

So just curious, is the plan to max Butler, Harris this offseason then max Ben next offseason? How insanely into the luxury tax will we be at that point?

personally, i would re-sign tobias, go for it all this season, then put him on the trading block february 2021, expecting by then for one of our draftees (zhaire, bolden, thybulle, claxton...) to takeover a starting role. i think the otto porter deal shows that we wouldn't have to pay to move him, as does the market for michael conley.

[smittybanton]

i could see the sixers going really cheap after re-signing tobias and jimmy, by a) bringing back jj, scott and boban, b) bringing in jimmy's buddies derrick rose and taj gibson, and c) drafting bigs who might could contribute by next april.

i think the market for back up point guards is saturated (satoransky, rondo, rubio, rozier, mcconnell, collison...), and that derrick rose won't cost much at all, especially to play with his friend s for a chip.

taj gibson couldnt cost more than the vets' minimum. played 11% of his minutes at the 5. shot 32.4% from 3pt, best of his career.