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Re: Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs) 

Post#1221 » by Kobblehead » Fri Oct 11, 2019 9:41 pm

Flipping Redick and Moore for draft capital would be a great move for them.
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Post#1222 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:20 am

Zion Williamson: 26 points (1-1 from three, 7-9 from free throw)
Nickeil Alexander-Walker: 22 points (4-5 from three, 4-4 from free throw)

Imagine if Barkley and Beal got to play together!
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Re: Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs) 

Post#1223 » by Negrodamus » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:37 am

It's clear that the Pelicans are better with this team than with Anthony Davis. These guys are going to be trouble for a long time.
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Post#1224 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 12, 2019 2:45 am

The Baby Lakers are playing well, too.

I can't wait for the first Pelicans/Lakers game.
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Post#1225 » by Ericb5 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 10:31 am

I have been slow to embrace the hype of Zion Williamson. He is a physical specimen who dominated college, but I wasn’t convinced that he was a generational talent.

I thought that he could be a superstar, but he could also be Amare Stoudamire, which would be a star, but not a franchise player.

In his first few preseason games he has dominated NBA players too though, and he looks great.

Can’t wait to watch him this year and see what he does against the whole league. He is undoubtably special.

I’m also happy for the Pelicans. They lucked into the first pick, but they made a great Davis trade, and are suddenly a team with a great future. Ball and Ingram are in a much better situation than they were last year.


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Post#1226 » by LloydFree » Sat Oct 12, 2019 12:07 pm

Like D'Angelo Russell, the Lakers eff'd up giving away Lonzo Ball. Shoulda sold high on that fraud Kouzma.
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Post#1227 » by ProcessDoctor » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:30 pm

Ball
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Re: Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs) 

Post#1228 » by Sixerscan » Sat Oct 12, 2019 3:46 pm

LloydFree wrote:Like D'Angelo Russell, the Lakers eff'd up giving away Lonzo Ball. Shoulda sold high on that fraud Kouzma.


I've said this before, but I wonder how many NBA execs actually think Kuzma is anything or its just sort of a Lakers public hype thing. Like he's fine and all but I'm not sure how he fits on a good team. 5th starter on a top heavy team? Bench scorer? Very interested to see what sort of offers he gets as an RFA, if he's smart he'll get something done with the Lakers next summer before it comes to that.

Ball on the other hand you could always see how he could theoretically fit in on a good team, just has to get the shot to a decent level. The mechanics change seems like a step in the right direction, we'll see if he can keep it up or he reverts.
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Post#1229 » by 76ciology » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:05 pm

Lakers were selling high on Kuzma. Pels were just not dumb to buy into it and they opted for Ingram, Ball and even... jason hart
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Post#1230 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 12, 2019 4:11 pm

It's not hard to justify or rationalize the Lakers moving off of Lonzo. The circus element of his family comes into play. His outdated player archetype comes into play.

Also, you can make the argument that his meek temperament and lack of command lends more to Ricky Rubio and Elfrid Payton as opposed to dogs like Jason Kidd and Rajon Rondo.
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Post#1231 » by Ericb5 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 5:18 pm

76ciology wrote:Lakers were selling high on Kuzma. Pels were just not dumb to buy into it and they opted for Ingram, Ball and even... jason hart


I thought the narrative on that deal was that Ingram and Ball were the obvious guys to go in the trade, and that the Pelicans wanted Kuzma as the third player, but the Lakers were able to get them to accept Hart instead?

I don’t know what is wrong with Kuzma. He isn’t a star, but he is a good prospect/player, and the Lakers are better off with him than they would have been with Hart.


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Post#1232 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:17 pm

I think the Lakers were actively trying to keep Kuzma out of trade negotiations. Pelinka loves him and he had the LeBron stamp of approval (which could actually be a mark against).
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Post#1233 » by LloydFree » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:06 pm

Laker Nation and guy like Shaq and Worthy, made it public that they all preferred to keep Kouzma over both Ball and Ingram. The reports said that Griffin wanted Kouzma more than Ball, but the Lakers held out. If so, that's a terrible talent evaluation by the Lakers' front office.
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Post#1234 » by Ericb5 » Sat Oct 12, 2019 7:21 pm

LloydFree wrote:Laker Nation and guy like Shaq and Worthy, made it public that they all preferred to keep Kouzma over both Ball and Ingram. The reports said that Griffin wanted Griffin more than Ball, but the Lakers held out. If so, that's a terrible talent evaluation by the Lakers' front office.


I hadn’t heard that, but could it be Monday morning quarterbacking? Like when a team trades down, drafts a player and then argues that this is the guy that they wanted at the previous pick anyway?

Ball and Ingram each had more trade value than Kuzma imo.


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Re: Around the League Discussion - 2018-2019 (Playoffs) 

Post#1235 » by VDT » Sun Oct 13, 2019 11:27 am

I think with Lebron at 35 and the need to surround him and Davis with shooters they didnt feel that Ball would help them in the playoffs this year or the next, if Davis stays, which is all they care about. Also with Rondo and Lebron already in the roster they probably felt that Ball's skills were not that important, again in the short term.

Also maybe change the title of the thread, we are 4 months past the playoffs.

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