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The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1121 » by PhillyPhilly » Sun Oct 13, 2019 1:33 pm

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Kobblehead wrote:Are we sensing something different about Ben? Feels like we're on the cusp of a legit breakout.


We know how dominant he can be against lesser teams

I thought we played against 2 pretty weak teams up til now.

And he only attempted 1 3 in those games

Ben is a stud, but please, don't get carried away


He did also land a nice midrange jumper from about 15 feet in the last game and tried one or two more and imo that's more important than the three tbh. Getting back to hitting midrange jumpers at a respectable clip like he did In his rookie season is what I'm hoping to see.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1122 » by Bum Adebayo » Sun Oct 13, 2019 2:20 pm

He is the real deal, this time there is no doubt he is going to make a huge leap.
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Post#1123 » by Sixerscan » Sun Oct 13, 2019 3:28 pm

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Jams60 wrote:I’d like to think so. Last year Ben dominated so many first quarters then seemed to go back into his shell. It was almost like he said ‘ I’m getting mine now and then I’ll help the rest get theirs.’ What may have changed this year though is that he may feel that JRich and Horford are quite happy to be two way players who don’t need the ball as much as Butler and Reddick did.
He is certainly more confident, more vocal and just seems so much sure of himself and his role as a team leader. Hopefully that turns into a more consistently aggressive and risk taking (shooting) Ben. That will be the jump he needs to breakthrough to the next level.


It's going to be a wait and see. He looked like this at times last year... but I do think not having JJ Redick and Butler there will help him. We ran way too many dribble hand off plays for JJ to get open. Ben was almost relegated to the 5th option on offense last year... this year he is going to need to look to score more and wouldn't be surprised for me to see him becoming the 2nd option now.

It will be interesting to see though what happens when Embiid is back. So far Joel has played a grand total of 13 minutes in the entire pre-season so when he does start playing it is going to significantly change the way we play and the speed of play and the amount of space Ben has to drive.


In terms of scoring points I think it's safe to say he was the 5th option after the Harris trade. It's a little different from most 5th options though since there was such a huge drop off between the top 5 options and the rest of the team.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1124 » by Kobblehead » Sun Oct 13, 2019 4:22 pm

Wilfried wrote:We know how dominant he can be against lesser teams

I thought we played against 2 pretty weak teams up til now.

And he only attempted 1 3 in those games

Ben is a stud, but please, don't get carried away

This is going to sound dumb, but it looks and feels different this year.

Even in the past when we saw him beat up on bad teams, it still felt like he was coasting. Now it feels like he's exerting a will.

This feels like Ben is on the cusp of having his "Neo moment."
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Post#1125 » by 76ciology » Sun Oct 13, 2019 5:44 pm

Whenever I watch Ben play, I watch how close the defender is. Whether they stay close or sag off. So far, they’re staying close.

I also notice there were a lot of instances when opponent’s PG is on Ben, even when we play against the long lion. Hope we can play a 4 out with Ben in the paint in those instances.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1126 » by Wilfried » Sun Oct 13, 2019 6:51 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Wilfried wrote:We know how dominant he can be against lesser teams

I thought we played against 2 pretty weak teams up til now.

And he only attempted 1 3 in those games

Ben is a stud, but please, don't get carried away

This is going to sound dumb, but it looks and feels different this year.

Even in the past when we saw him beat up on bad teams, it still felt like he was coasting. Now it feels like he's exerting a will.

This feels like Ben is on the cusp of having his "Neo moment."


We'll, let's hope he took the red pill than this summer
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1127 » by Simmons25 » Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:37 am

76ciology wrote:Whenever I watch Ben play, I watch how close the defender is. Whether they stay close or sag off. So far, they’re staying close.

I also notice there were a lot of instances when opponent’s PG is on Ben, even when we play against the long lion. Hope we can play a 4 out with Ben in the paint in those instances.


I've noticed that as well. Nobody has been leaving him open yet this year... which is a little disappointing. I want him being put into situations where he has to shoot wide open jumpers in the regular season and at the moment that is not happening.

I'm hoping when we get to some of the better teams that actually plan to stop players that they do start leaving him open. There is no use him cruising though the regular season and then get to the playoffs and suddenly game 2 they are leaving him wide open and he hasn't been getting that shot all year.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1128 » by 76ciology » Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:00 am

I dont know what’s with the Kardashian sisters, but they were really toxic. LO turned into an addict, Tristan suddenly fell off then Ben.. jay williams said Ben’s trainer said Ben was determined in the offseason unlike before and the “LA lifestyle” was a distraction.

Can’t wait to see more of Ben this upcoming season.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1129 » by Kobblehead » Sat Oct 19, 2019 4:32 pm

So is the back thing real or have we just basically been resting Ben?
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Post#1130 » by Rastas » Sat Oct 19, 2019 6:34 pm

I would guess it's real.
Ben is a machine , he needs no rest.

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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1131 » by Kova » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:08 pm



I quite enjoyed this! Ben is much more fun in his off-time than I actually thought!
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1132 » by kio80 » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:17 pm

Kova wrote:

I quite enjoyed this! Ben is much more fun in his off-time than I actually thought!


Too much fun, too little balls going through the hoop


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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1133 » by Eyeamok » Tue Oct 22, 2019 3:46 pm

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Kova wrote:

I quite enjoyed this! Ben is much more fun in his off-time than I actually thought!


Too much fun, too little balls going through the hoop


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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1134 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 22, 2019 5:45 pm

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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1135 » by vini_vidi_vici » Tue Oct 29, 2019 4:04 pm

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Good luck this season, I want you to trash MIL, but I dont think you can with Ben shooting like this. SSS applies no doubt, but he needs to show more.
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Post#1136 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:11 pm

Between Ben and Biid, I want Ben to attack the mismatch via drives or post. Im more confident with Ben kicking it out and handling double teams. Not to mention how much better it is on spacing.

But you then waste Biid’s scoring ability.

The way I see it, when both guys are on the floor, Ben should be alpha. Because the alternative is him playing lackadaisical on offense.

Biid can do his Historical points per 36 numbers when Ben is off the court.
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Post#1137 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:13 pm

vini_vidi_vici wrote:Image

Good luck this season, I want you to trash MIL, but I dont think you can with Ben shooting like this. SSS applies no doubt, but he needs to show more.


True. Good luck to everyone we play against with also. Looks like we can generate all kinds of mismatch every game.

Against the Hawks, we got 5 guys having advantages on their mismatch that all 5 of them kept posting up. We just need to gel on offense .

Defensively, we wont get this many whistles against us during the playoffs. While we can play bully ball and have 4 floor spacers all time.
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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1138 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:15 pm

The pickandroll is the ultimate unifyer. Even for guys who don't typically fit together.

If one guy can handle the ball, and the other can roll to the basket catch and finish, they can make some nice things happen.

It's a travesty that we're not working on developing a 2-man game between our biggest pieces.
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Post#1139 » by 76ciology » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:24 pm

Kobblehead wrote:The pickandroll is the ultimate unifyer. Even for guys who don't typically fit together.

If one guy can handle the ball, and the other can roll to the basket catch and finish, they can make some nice things happen.

It's a travesty that we're not working on developing a 2-man game between our biggest pieces.


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Re: The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III 

Post#1140 » by Kobblehead » Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:39 pm

I'm just talking in the context of getting Ben/Joel actually being able to function together.

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