The Ben Simmons Megathread - Part III

[sixerswillrule]

The corner three is huge. If he can get to the point of being able to knock a wide open corner three that changes everything. Imagine Horford in the high post feeding Embiid down low with Ben keeping the help defender honest.

[Sixerfever216]

I think Ben was never a great shooter but he wasn't Terrible. What people are forgetting we took a College PF and made him a PG. I think every player would struggle shooting if that was done to them. That's why he's so comfortable around the basket. I love him playing PG , shooting was never in his arsonal before the NBA.

I really think we would have seen way more In game shooting from 8- 10 feet if he was playing PF. We put a sub par shooter farthest away from the basket and we expect him to shoot to me that's CRAZY. 18-19 year old in the NBA he did what he felt comfortable doing passing and getting to the RIM. To me it's all about confidence with him even if misses he has to SHOOT but to me it's all a process. I think people underrate how his position switch effected his comfortability with shooting. He's a young hardworking kid he will get better no doubt HES WORTH EVERY PENNY

[phillynative]

I think Ben was never a great shooter but he wasn't Terrible. What people are forgetting we took a College PF and made him a PG. I think every player would struggle shooting if that was done to them. That's why he's so comfortable around the basket. I love him playing PG , shooting was never in his arsonal before the NBA.

I really think we would have seen way more In game shooting from 8- 10 feet if he was playing PF. We put a sub par shooter farthest away from the basket and we expect him to shoot to me that's CRAZY. 18-19 year old in the NBA he did what he felt comfortable doing passing and getting to the RIM. To me it's all about confidence with him even if misses he has to SHOOT but to me it's all a process. I think people underrate how his position switch effected his comfortability with shooting. He's a young hardworking kid he will get better no doubt HES WORTH EVERY PENNY

It's not like he was forced the PG position is ultimately where he wanted to play. Maybe showing progress before the switch should of been reinforced.

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

I think Ben was never a great shooter but he wasn't Terrible. What people are forgetting we took a College PF and made him a PG. I think every player would struggle shooting if that was done to them. That's why he's so comfortable around the basket. I love him playing PG , shooting was never in his arsonal before the NBA.

I really think we would have seen way more In game shooting from 8- 10 feet if he was playing PF. We put a sub par shooter farthest away from the basket and we expect him to shoot to me that's CRAZY. 18-19 year old in the NBA he did what he felt comfortable doing passing and getting to the RIM. To me it's all about confidence with him even if misses he has to SHOOT but to me it's all a process. I think people underrate how his position switch effected his comfortability with shooting. He's a young hardworking kid he will get better no doubt HES WORTH EVERY PENNY

My theory is our coaching staff is controlling some shots like not taking mid range shots, not taking floaters and not taking hook shots. Just as rockets staff asked their players to take a ton of 3s. A good example was when Jahlil Okafor was asked if he will continue to shoot 3s after he had made one, and his reply was something like depends if coaching staff will give him the greenlight. Zhaire also said about limiting his pull up mid range shots.

I think if Ben shoot those 3s and shoots at a horrible %, our offense will be worse than him not taking those shots and having guys like JJ taking those shots even when it’s ill advised.

That said, all I can say is if Ben is not taking those 3s, it’s because he can’t make those 3s in practice that our staff isnt giving him the green light to take them.

So him not taking those 3s aren’t because of position issue but because he’s just not good at it.

Bright side is Embiid. Reports have it that Embiid knocks down those 3s at a high rate in practice. Thus our staff has been giving him more than the greenlight to shoot them

[PhilasFinest]

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[kio80]

No way! He shoots like a taller Klay!


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[Simmons25]

No way! He shoots like a taller Klay!


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Klay has one of the best shooting strokes because he goes straight up and down and is like a metronome.... hardly ever changes form... so consistent.

I am yet to see Ben take a single jumper that looked like Klay in that way. I've seen 5 jumpers from Ben so far this off-season and 4 of them have been fall-away jumpers.... which drive me insane. Only saving graces is that at least this one wasn't a turnaround as well. Dude just makes it so damn hard on himself to be consistent.

[kio80]

No way! He shoots like a taller Klay!


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Klay has one of the best shooting strokes because he goes straight up and down and is like a metronome.... hardly ever changes form... so consistent.

I am yet to see Ben take a single jumper that looked like Klay in that way. I've seen 5 jumpers from Ben so far this off-season and 4 of them have been fall-away jumpers.... which drive me insane. Only saving graces is that at least this one wasn't a turnaround as well. Dude just makes it so damn hard on himself to be consistent.

I am kidding my friend, obviously...

Good to see some improvement from him


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[LloydFree]

Spoiler:

I think Ben was never a great shooter but he wasn't Terrible. What people are forgetting we took a College PF and made him a PG. I think every player would struggle shooting if that was done to them. That's why he's so comfortable around the basket. I love him playing PG , shooting was never in his arsonal before the NBA.

I really think we would have seen way more In game shooting from 8- 10 feet if he was playing PF. We put a sub par shooter farthest away from the basket and we expect him to shoot to me that's CRAZY. 18-19 year old in the NBA he did what he felt comfortable doing passing and getting to the RIM. To me it's all about confidence with him even if misses he has to SHOOT but to me it's all a process. I think people underrate how his position switch effected his comfortability with shooting. He's a young hardworking kid he will get better no doubt HES WORTH EVERY PENNY

My theory is our coaching staff is controlling some shots like not taking mid range shots, not taking floaters and not taking hook shots. Just as rockets staff asked their players to take a ton of 3s. A good example was when Jahlil Okafor was asked if he will continue to shoot 3s after he had made one, and his reply was something like depends if coaching staff will give him the greenlight. Zhaire also said about limiting his pull up mid range shots.

I think if Ben shoot those 3s and shoots at a horrible %, our offense will be worse than him not taking those shots and having guys like JJ taking those shots even when it’s ill advised.

That said, all I can say is if Ben is not taking those 3s, it’s because he can’t make those 3s in practice that our staff isnt giving him the green light to take them.

So him not taking those 3s aren’t because of position issue but because he’s just not good at it.

Bright side is Embiid. Reports have it that Embiid knocks down those 3s at a high rate in practice. Thus our staff has been giving him more than the greenlight to shoot them

This is nothing new. It's been established a long time ago by the 76ers, that the players aren't allowed to take shots in a game, that they don't make in practice.

[Simmons25]

No way! He shoots like a taller Klay!


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Klay has one of the best shooting strokes because he goes straight up and down and is like a metronome.... hardly ever changes form... so consistent.

I am yet to see Ben take a single jumper that looked like Klay in that way. I've seen 5 jumpers from Ben so far this off-season and 4 of them have been fall-away jumpers.... which drive me insane. Only saving graces is that at least this one wasn't a turnaround as well. Dude just makes it so damn hard on himself to be consistent.

I am kidding my friend, obviously...

Good to see some improvement from him


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Thank f#@k. Some of the stuff I've been reading on twitter makes me actually wonder at times.

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

I think Ben was never a great shooter but he wasn't Terrible. What people are forgetting we took a College PF and made him a PG. I think every player would struggle shooting if that was done to them. That's why he's so comfortable around the basket. I love him playing PG , shooting was never in his arsonal before the NBA.

I really think we would have seen way more In game shooting from 8- 10 feet if he was playing PF. We put a sub par shooter farthest away from the basket and we expect him to shoot to me that's CRAZY. 18-19 year old in the NBA he did what he felt comfortable doing passing and getting to the RIM. To me it's all about confidence with him even if misses he has to SHOOT but to me it's all a process. I think people underrate how his position switch effected his comfortability with shooting. He's a young hardworking kid he will get better no doubt HES WORTH EVERY PENNY

My theory is our coaching staff is controlling some shots like not taking mid range shots, not taking floaters and not taking hook shots. Just as rockets staff asked their players to take a ton of 3s. A good example was when Jahlil Okafor was asked if he will continue to shoot 3s after he had made one, and his reply was something like depends if coaching staff will give him the greenlight. Zhaire also said about limiting his pull up mid range shots.

I think if Ben shoot those 3s and shoots at a horrible %, our offense will be worse than him not taking those shots and having guys like JJ taking those shots even when it’s ill advised.

That said, all I can say is if Ben is not taking those 3s, it’s because he can’t make those 3s in practice that our staff isnt giving him the green light to take them.

So him not taking those 3s aren’t because of position issue but because he’s just not good at it.

Bright side is Embiid. Reports have it that Embiid knocks down those 3s at a high rate in practice. Thus our staff has been giving him more than the greenlight to shoot them

This is nothing new. It's been established a long time ago by the 76ers, that the players aren't allowed to take shots in a game, that they don't make in practice.

Yeah. With that said, i dont think ben is knocking down shots at practice with the rate our staff needs him to be.

[PhilasFinest]

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Drooool.


I don't care about his elbows, or his balance, or the location of the court, etc.....Seeing this is an extremely welcomed sight and a HUGE step forward in his development. His lack of taking jumpers was always a bigger concern to his actual jump shot. We have never seen him taking shots like this in actual competitive settings outside of shoot arounds.

If hes taking and making shots like this in the upcoming NBA season, he is a bonafide superstar and going to be a menace to defend paired with Joel,Tobias, J-Rich and Horford.

[USWAY]

This second video is actually pretty awesome.....star leap incoming...

[PhillyPhilly]

Lol my heart is actually glowing right now watching that second vid yall ...this is what I see.

1. His spring off the ground is higher with way more energy. I always thought this was one of his main issues tbh. Just look at the three pointer he tried last season (against the nets?) Where the ball twirled in and out, he barely got off the ground and that lack of umph smacked of a lack of confidence and belief In the shot.

2. The timing of his release has improved greatly due to the new spring. And this is seeing him release the ball whilst he's motioning upwards rather than the mess it was before where his weak spring would see him release it on the way down.

3. HE'S NO LONGER TWISTING THE BALL WITH HIS PALM. This is huge yall...because that technical flaw was ultimately what was killing his ability to shoot. He'd be thinking about twisting the ball on release rather than just doing it like everyone else does which is to release it by flicking it with the tips of his fingers straight forward. It's clear on that vid that that is what he's now doing and the results are beautiful.

The key things to note right now is that he's made two critical changes to his mechanics which are spring and release. Those two things were major flaws. Now it's about a ton of reps and then he will be able to make a few more changes with elbow placement etc if he wishes. But the main two main things are certainly looking a million times better from what I see .

[Aussiepiston1]

All He has to do is start taking and making 40% of those shots and defenders won't be able to sag off him anymore which will open up our whole offence.
I think He can, will and I'm excited about what's to come.

[Simmons25]

That 2nd video was much much better!! Exactly what I was hoping to see more of.

He actually looked on several occasions like he was coming down the court with the intention of shooting a jumper if he was open. Completely different mindset. Up until now his intention is to always drive to the basket and shooting was a secondary and some times 3rd option to him passing up the ball. This is what will make or break him especially in playoffs. The confidence to shoot that shot when teams sag off and nobody else on the team has touched it yet. His teammates just need to be on board that he is going to need to be "greedy" when looking for his shot at times. No sure how Joel will handle it but we will see.

[sixerswillrule]

I like the confidence.

[ProcessDoctor]

If he’s taking jump shots like this next year...good lord is the league in trouble.

[Eyeamok]

When it happens in the regular season games and the playoffs I will be excited. But for now I will hold back on the complements, and expect to see the same old Ben. But in this instance I will happily/gladly loved to be proven wrong.

[Sixerscan]

Good that he’s working out with other players and more willing to take those shots during live action.

Will hold off on any conclusions about his form based on one off highlights.