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Re: Sixers vs Raps Round 2 Discussion 

Post#601 » by kingofthecourt67 » Wed May 8, 2019 12:11 am

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If you get beat by someone else you get beat by someone else. if you were picking teams at the park, Kawhi Leonard would be the first pick, the next four pick would be 76ers. Brett Brown is a complete moron.


It is a pointless try bro, they are enamorated with Brett, he does a fantastic job in their eyes.



I can see that. Christ we haven't tried one thing different we haven't given him a different look at all.... I'm sure Nick nurse is just laughing his ass off behind the scenes. It's junior high level coaching.


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Post#602 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 8, 2019 2:07 am

Colangelo’s trade for and selection of Markelle and subsequent gross mismanagement of him is the reason we are in this predicament, to be honest.
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Post#603 » by AI_Efficiency » Wed May 8, 2019 2:17 am

Negrodamus wrote:Colangelo’s trade for and selection of Markelle and subsequent gross mismanagement of him is the reason we are in this predicament, to be honest.

Partly, but Jimmy and Tobias have played well. It’s Embiid and Simmons who haven’t carried their weight. Replace them both tonight with two other random all stars and it’s a different ball game.
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Post#604 » by 76ciology » Wed May 8, 2019 3:08 am

Negrodamus wrote:Colangelo’s trade for and selection of Markelle and subsequent gross mismanagement of him is the reason we are in this predicament, to be honest.

Like Channing Tatum would have made a difference. But yeah he selected Ben. So thats one valid mismanagement
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Post#605 » by ProcessDoctor » Wed May 8, 2019 3:22 am

What's depressing long-term is Butler being much more ready than Simmons and Embiid. Not a good thing for our odds to keep him.
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Post#606 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 8, 2019 3:25 am

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Negrodamus wrote:Colangelo’s trade for and selection of Markelle and subsequent gross mismanagement of him is the reason we are in this predicament, to be honest.

Partly, but Jimmy and Tobias have played well. It’s Embiid and Simmons who haven’t carried their weight. Replace them both tonight with two other random all stars and it’s a different ball game.


Taking any one of Fox, Mitchell, or even Tatum would have put us in a better position than we currently are in. Butler has been great for us, but he should not be the primary half court ball handler. If we took Tatum, there would have been no need to burn assets on Tobias.

Even if Colangelo didn't leave Fultz to his own devices in his first offseason with us, we could have one of the better PnR prospects to take the pressure off of Embiid creating in the post. We wouldn't be so reliant on JJ.
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Post#607 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 8, 2019 3:27 am

And finally, I don't think Brand would have felt pressured to make a bunch of moves to make it work this year. I feel like this team was jammed together just to make a run.
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Post#608 » by Sixercise » Wed May 8, 2019 3:35 am

Ugh - this may be a blindingly hot take, but Ben seems to have all the makings of a behind-the-scenes locker room cancer with the air of a diva, the attitude of a fake tough guy who plays mainly for triple doubles (Westbrook is the worst at it), can't handle pressure at the first sign of trouble (if you're going to boo, stay on that side), and doesnt really like sharing the spotlight.


Does he even understand why we pay such careful attention to what he does? This is Philly after all....tough love is our MO.


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Post#609 » by everdiso » Wed May 8, 2019 4:58 am

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:lol: If defense was that easy, then games should be scored in the 30s


But he'd also tell the players to not let the other Raptors score so he's really got it all figured out.


If you get beat by someone else you get beat by someone else. if you were picking teams at the park, Kawhi Leonard would be the first pick, the next four pick would be 76ers. Brett Brown is a complete moron.


Just a bad evaluation of raps like Lowry and Siakam, tbh.
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Post#610 » by NeoDragonKnight » Wed May 8, 2019 4:08 pm

These are great, its like South Park for basketball both in humor and in art style.
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Post#611 » by AirP. » Wed May 8, 2019 4:31 pm

This was before game 5 but wow...
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Post#612 » by PhillyPhilly » Wed May 8, 2019 6:32 pm

Brett needs to have a complete new game plan In this crucial game six. If he wants to keep his job this is the time to step up and prove he can deal with the pressure and make a chess move The Raps won't be expecting. Also If I was him I'd sit the guys down and show them clips of the sports shows from today. Show them how folks are ripping them apart and ridiculing them. If that doesn't light a fire under them then nothing will.
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Post#613 » by papajoe » Wed May 8, 2019 6:41 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:What's depressing long-term is Butler being much more ready than Simmons and Embiid. Not a good thing for our odds to keep him.


I must be only one who thinks he remains if we pay him the full max over 5 years. Our post season has no impact on if he remains.
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Post#614 » by Slacktard » Wed May 8, 2019 6:55 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Colangelo’s trade for and selection of Markelle and subsequent gross mismanagement of him is the reason we are in this predicament, to be honest.


In an alternate universe the Sixers never made the Fultz trade, used Sacramento 2019 1st to get a Kawhi Leonard deal done and are waiting to see who they play in the ECF.
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Post#615 » by Mik317 » Wed May 8, 2019 7:53 pm

the fact that we have nothing to show for our last few drafts is pretty bad. TLC, Korkmaz,Bolden, Fultz, Picknick Baskets, Zhaire, and Shake all being nothing at the moment is a massive misstep . More so since we didn't make up for it in FA because sans JJ, we missed there too w/ Bayless and Amir.

we can focus on the big moves but we dropped the ball on a lot of small ones...and it is killing us now. Juwan Evan is probably trash. Sterling Brown would probably be a hated player here but still...we just sold those picks off. BCs and now to an extent, Elton's need to prove themselves worthy has led to a lot of short sighted decisions.
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Post#616 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 8, 2019 8:22 pm

76ciology wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Colangelo’s trade for and selection of Markelle and subsequent gross mismanagement of him is the reason we are in this predicament, to be honest.

Like Channing Tatum would have made a difference. But yeah he selected Ben. So thats one valid mismanagement


If we had drafted Jayson Tatum, we wouldn't be facing this Tobias contract situation this summer. We'd also have a lottery pick in this draft, Shamet, Miami Heat pick. We also don't know what Tatum's ceiling is while we are currently seeing Tobias's ceiling.
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Post#617 » by PhillyPhilly » Wed May 8, 2019 8:41 pm

For all those moaning about our roster what do you say about Boston? They traded away a lot for Kyrie only for him to get injured last season and now fail In these playoffs. Now he looks like leaving and that whole trade looks like a disaster. Then you have the Gordon situation, a guy who's being paid big money and looks a shell of himself after the injury. Morris and Rozier could well be leaving too. And yall think we've got problems? The Raps are also likely to lose Kawhi and where would they be without him? This team has won 15 out of 20 games, I repeat, 15 out of 20 games. And many of these games have been with Joel having issues. So let's not go overboard guys. A better coach and a few different pieces can vastly improve this team next year.
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Post#618 » by Mik317 » Wed May 8, 2019 8:51 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:For all those moaning about our roster what do you say about Boston? They traded away a lot for Kyrie only for him to get injured last season and now fail In these playoffs. Now he looks like leaving and that whole trade looks like a disaster. Then you have the Gordon situation, a guy who's being paid big money and looks a shell of himself after the injury. Morris and Rozier could well be leaving too. And yall think we've got problems? The Raps are also likely to lose Kawhi and where would they be without him? This team has won 15 out of 20 games, I repeat, 15 out of 20 games. And many of these games have been with Joel having issues. So let's not go overboard guys. A better coach and a few different pieces can vastly improve this team next year.


they traded IT's corpse and Colin Sexton for two seasons of Kyrie.

It may not have worked out but the alternative being having IT's corpse on your payroll means they lucked out
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Post#619 » by Negrodamus » Wed May 8, 2019 9:05 pm

PhillyPhilly wrote:For all those moaning about our roster what do you say about Boston? They traded away a lot for Kyrie only for him to get injured last season and now fail In these playoffs. Now he looks like leaving and that whole trade looks like a disaster. Then you have the Gordon situation, a guy who's being paid big money and looks a shell of himself after the injury. Morris and Rozier could well be leaving too. And yall think we've got problems? The Raps are also likely to lose Kawhi and where would they be without him? This team has won 15 out of 20 games, I repeat, 15 out of 20 games. And many of these games have been with Joel having issues. So let's not go overboard guys. A better coach and a few different pieces can vastly improve this team next year.


We're allowed to dislike the current state and also agree that Boston is in a bad situation. I don't understand why one is connected with the other. They are a victim of unfortunate circumstances (Hayward's horrific injury), bad decision making (draft Jaylen Brown over Jamal Murray), and inaction (not trading Terry Rozier at the height of his value). They have had the opportunity to be a powerhouse and blew it.

That said, they still have decent assets to trade for someone good (like Anthony Davis apparently), or they can blow it up and try to rebuild with Tatum, Brown, Griz pick, Sac pick, etc. If we strike out on Butler and Harris, we're going to be in an interesting situation this summer. Not much left in the cupboard.
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Post#620 » by AirP. » Wed May 8, 2019 9:13 pm

You know, a win in Philly isn't out of the question and if Embiid's more healthy it's quite possible to get that win. Then it's a 1 game playoff in game 7.

There could still be a lot of basketball left for this team, heading towards game 6 in the 2nd round playing this bad says a lot about the talent level on this team.

If the team is bounced early it's not exactly the end, if they can keep the main players together and then add better fitting roleplayers, this team should be a much better team next year and possibly a favorite to going to the finals from the east.

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