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Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:30 pm
by FlyingArrow
LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Right, they tanked and got Duncan. We tanked and got a few players. We’re currently in the middle of the Duncan run.... except without the championships. So we need to keep grabbing young potential to hopefully hit on one or two every so often.

Not the same. San Antonio already had stars before they tanked for Duncan. They held stars out with fake injuries to get more stars.

The point is that we have the star power now to win a championship. We need to complete the team with complementary pieces and get the job done. If you don't have the star power in place already, a Tobias max contract will make it so you will probably never get that star power. If you do have it (and we do), it helps put you over the top to hopefully win a championship.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:36 pm
by PhillyFan11
Negrodamus wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Shake Milton is our top 5 player. And Toronto > Philly.


You need to pass me whatever you’re smoking buddy. This blissful delusion you have seems fun


Oh, I thought we were playing dumb when you asked who is our star player.


Nope, just dumb that you think Joel Embiid is a top 5 player

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:48 pm
by Negrodamus
PhillyFan11 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
You need to pass me whatever you’re smoking buddy. This blissful delusion you have seems fun


Oh, I thought we were playing dumb when you asked who is our star player.


Nope, just dumb that you think Joel Embiid is a top 5 player


I never said we have a top 5 player. I said we have our Kawhi.

But since we're for some reason talking about top 5 players, Embiid is a top 5 going forward with Durant tearing his achilles.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 10:51 pm
by bball4life
PhillyFan11 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
You need to pass me whatever you’re smoking buddy. This blissful delusion you have seems fun


Oh, I thought we were playing dumb when you asked who is our star player.


Nope, just dumb that you think Joel Embiid is a top 5 player


In the Toronto series, the Sixers were plus 109 with Embiid in the lineup and -200 with him out. Top 5 or not, that's good enough for me. Oh, he's still getting better too.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:04 pm
by phillynative
Womp womp womp

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:13 pm
by Negrodamus
bball4life wrote:
PhillyFan11 wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
Oh, I thought we were playing dumb when you asked who is our star player.


Nope, just dumb that you think Joel Embiid is a top 5 player


In the Toronto series, the Sixers were plus 109 with Embiid in the lineup and -200 with him out. Top 5 or not, that's good enough for me. Oh, he's still getting better too.


And second team all nba with.... you guessed it, Kawhi Leonard

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:23 pm
by kuclas
LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Right, they tanked and got Duncan. We tanked and got a few players. We’re currently in the middle of the Duncan run.... except without the championships. So we need to keep grabbing young potential to hopefully hit on one or two every so often.

Not the same. San Antonio already had stars before they tanked for Duncan. They held stars out with fake injuries to get more stars.


It’s a shame. Cause Vancouver likely stays in Vancouver with Tim Duncan had the nba had the stupid no first overall pick the first 3 seasons.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Fri Jun 21, 2019 11:41 pm
by PLO
I mentioned this in the other thread. I watched quite a number of UW's games this season and to my eye Thybulle isn't actually all that physically strong. I think he'll need to add some muscle to stop players just barrelling through him in the NBA.

I mean, I can recall times where noted ~ 200 lb heavyweight Louis King just went through him on his way to the cup vs the Huskies. Thybulle has active hands and a fantastic wingspan but players are just going to go right at him at the next level.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 1:01 am
by LloydFree
kuclas wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Right, they tanked and got Duncan. We tanked and got a few players. We’re currently in the middle of the Duncan run.... except without the championships. So we need to keep grabbing young potential to hopefully hit on one or two every so often.

Not the same. San Antonio already had stars before they tanked for Duncan. They held stars out with fake injuries to get more stars.


It’s a shame. Cause Vancouver likely stays in Vancouver with Tim Duncan had the nba had the stupid no first overall pick the first 3 seasons.

I forgot about that rule. I think that rule helped us get Iverson over Toronto in '96.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:24 am
by Black Mage
Negrodamus wrote:
sixers78 wrote:Why is this pick drawing so much criticism? It’s a late first rd pick. I mean I do hate trading with Boston. But I just don’t like Boston. I get the trade up for Fultz criticism. I even get the Zhaire over MJP criticism. But like are fans really upset over late firsts and how 2nd rd crap shoot picks were handled? I’m intrigued by his defense and off of stats judging free throws and 3pt % he should be able to become 3 and D I believe. Nets guards torched us badly. I don’t mind adding someone whose pedigree is defense. Work on the rest. What are you expecting drafting in the 20’s?


You get a cheap player for multiple years with the possibility of becoming a star. Matisse Thybulle's ceiling is better shooting Andre Roberson. That's not a star. That's someone you can pick up in free agency.


I'd kill for a better shooting Andre Roberson. That dude is a major defensive menace.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:34 am
by Negrodamus
Black Mage wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
sixers78 wrote:Why is this pick drawing so much criticism? It’s a late first rd pick. I mean I do hate trading with Boston. But I just don’t like Boston. I get the trade up for Fultz criticism. I even get the Zhaire over MJP criticism. But like are fans really upset over late firsts and how 2nd rd crap shoot picks were handled? I’m intrigued by his defense and off of stats judging free throws and 3pt % he should be able to become 3 and D I believe. Nets guards torched us badly. I don’t mind adding someone whose pedigree is defense. Work on the rest. What are you expecting drafting in the 20’s?


You get a cheap player for multiple years with the possibility of becoming a star. Matisse Thybulle's ceiling is better shooting Andre Roberson. That's not a star. That's someone you can pick up in free agency.


I'd kill for a better shooting Andre Roberson. That dude is a major defensive menace.


Hope he hits that ceiling!

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 2:42 am
by Arsenal
Black Mage wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
sixers78 wrote:Why is this pick drawing so much criticism? It’s a late first rd pick. I mean I do hate trading with Boston. But I just don’t like Boston. I get the trade up for Fultz criticism. I even get the Zhaire over MJP criticism. But like are fans really upset over late firsts and how 2nd rd crap shoot picks were handled? I’m intrigued by his defense and off of stats judging free throws and 3pt % he should be able to become 3 and D I believe. Nets guards torched us badly. I don’t mind adding someone whose pedigree is defense. Work on the rest. What are you expecting drafting in the 20’s?


You get a cheap player for multiple years with the possibility of becoming a star. Matisse Thybulle's ceiling is better shooting Andre Roberson. That's not a star. That's someone you can pick up in free agency.


I'd kill for a better shooting Andre Roberson. That dude is a major defensive menace.


Yeah a Roberson who can hit an open 3 and doesn't brick his free throws is a significant positive difference maker. Hope that is what we get with Thybulle.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:18 am
by James40
We should be happy if this kid actually makes it through the season healthy. For a Sixers rookie, that’s good enough.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 3:48 am
by PhilasFinest
Arsenal wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:
You get a cheap player for multiple years with the possibility of becoming a star. Matisse Thybulle's ceiling is better shooting Andre Roberson. That's not a star. That's someone you can pick up in free agency.


I'd kill for a better shooting Andre Roberson. That dude is a major defensive menace.


Yeah a Roberson who can hit an open 3 and doesn't brick his free throws is a significant positive difference maker. Hope that is what we get with Thybulle.


Roberson was an elite rebounder coming into the league and kind of a tweener....he was literally a double double machine.Thybulle is more of a ball hawking wing compared to Roberson, and his shot is much better coming into the NBA.

Thybulle is tough to compare because his defensive #'s were so elite (steals and blocks) and his offensive game is kind of an unknown.

Id say his ceiling is probably somewhere in the realm of a Spurs Danny Green or a ball hawking Thabo Sefolosha.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:25 am
by ivysixer2000
James40 wrote:We should be happy if this kid actually makes it through the season healthy. For a Sixers rookie, that’s good enough.


Now the jinx is on.

Curse you.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:26 am
by 76ciology
Stanford wrote:
Read on Twitter


We were fools. It was Matisse the whole time.


Thybulle is a hinkie type player

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:27 am
by 76ciology
PhilasFinest wrote:
Arsenal wrote:
Black Mage wrote:
I'd kill for a better shooting Andre Roberson. That dude is a major defensive menace.


Yeah a Roberson who can hit an open 3 and doesn't brick his free throws is a significant positive difference maker. Hope that is what we get with Thybulle.


Roberson was an elite rebounder coming into the league and kind of a tweener....he was literally a double double machine.Thybulle is more of a ball hawking wing compared to Roberson, and his shot is much better coming into the NBA.

Thybulle is tough to compare because his defensive #'s were so elite (steals and blocks) and his offensive game is kind of an unknown.

Id say his ceiling is probably somewhere in the realm of a Spurs Danny Green or a ball hawking Thabo Sefolosha.



His offense reminds me a lot of Danny Green. He’s like a rich man’s version of Danny Green

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:42 am
by 76ciology
He gambles a lot on defense and at one point it looks like that he just cares on getting those steals and blocks by gambling heavily on defense. Getting steals and blocks is easier on college because of the zone defense.

Defensively, he looks more like Roco that his man may drop 30-40 but he’ll be a plus defender by those deflection numbers.

Scouting report also say that he doesnt go for the boards, but i dont think its a big issue when we have multiple guys who likes to go for the boards.

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 6:25 am
by papajoe
Elton brands clueless, got no hope for this franchise

Re: Welcome Matisse Thybulle!

Posted: Sat Jun 22, 2019 5:32 pm
by NoDopeOnSundays
76ciology wrote:He gambles a lot on defense and at one point it looks like that he just cares on getting those steals and blocks by gambling heavily on defense. Getting steals and blocks is easier on college because of the zone defense.

Defensively, he looks more like Roco that his man may drop 30-40 but he’ll be a plus defender by those deflection numbers.

Scouting report also say that he doesnt go for the boards, but i dont think its a big issue when we have multiple guys who likes to go for the boards.



He'll be an elite team defender, especially with rim protection of Embiid and the ball pressure from Simmons / Butler. I'd imagine their vision is hounding teams with Smith on ball, Thybulle on SG, with Ben and Jimmy taking turns on the weakest offensive player on the other team so they can roam on defense.