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[mike76]

2. Embiid can take gasol one on one. That’s not the problem. The problem is the other team help defense. Even look at last year Celtics playoffs. The cheat help defense. Embiid sees it. It makes him hesistate. Which is bad for ball movement. And guess who the cheat defender is guarding??? Simmons. In Toronto series. Leonard would have been called for illegal nba defense had this been the 1990s. He was cheating over all the time. Baiting. Waiting. Unfortunately. It’s hard to play dominant post offense in this era with no true nba illegal defense. Embiid has to make his move within 1 second. Or it’s too late and the cheat defense covers.

Except the Raptors weren't doubling Embiid that series.

[76ciology]

2. Embiid can take gasol one on one. That’s not the problem. The problem is the other team help defense. Even look at last year Celtics playoffs. The cheat help defense. Embiid sees it. It makes him hesistate. Which is bad for ball movement. And guess who the cheat defender is guarding??? Simmons. In Toronto series. Leonard would have been called for illegal nba defense had this been the 1990s. He was cheating over all the time. Baiting. Waiting. Unfortunately. It’s hard to play dominant post offense in this era with no true nba illegal defense. Embiid has to make his move within 1 second. Or it’s too late and the cheat defense covers.

Except the Raptors weren't doubling Embiid that series.

Our last two playoff losses against the Celts and Raps are because we don’t have a favorable mismatch. And in both series, Embiid has shown that he isn’t as effective at the post as in regular season.

Just like Shaq or D12, teams would eventually catch up and prepare for you. They will stack up bigs to slow you down. Raps showed it when they traded JV for Gasol.

The addition of Horford was a stroke of genius. It doesnt just fill our biggest need, a RELIABLE back-up C. But it creates all kind of mismatch advantage for Ben, Tobi and Biid. Unless teams will play twin tower with a 6’10 backcourt player, we will always have a legs up with our match-ups.

P.S. Embiid can’t take Gasol 1 on 1. And by the definition of “take”, it’s not scoring a bucket but by getting his 25-26 a game regular season average.

[kuclas]

2. Embiid can take gasol one on one. That’s not the problem. The problem is the other team help defense. Even look at last year Celtics playoffs. The cheat help defense. Embiid sees it. It makes him hesistate. Which is bad for ball movement. And guess who the cheat defender is guarding??? Simmons. In Toronto series. Leonard would have been called for illegal nba defense had this been the 1990s. He was cheating over all the time. Baiting. Waiting. Unfortunately. It’s hard to play dominant post offense in this era with no true nba illegal defense. Embiid has to make his move within 1 second. Or it’s too late and the cheat defense covers.

Except the Raptors weren't doubling Embiid that series.

Watch the game tape. I didn't say they were double teaming embiid. I said the extra defender cheating over and it's usually simmons man. Any move embiid thinks about making. The cheat defender is there. In 1990s with illegal defense. Teams can't play that way. But that's just the problem embiid has to figure out. He either has to make move faster. Or move the ball around more to combat the cheat defender saggin off Simmons.

[FireMorey]

The only one who can unlock Simmons and Embiid is their own work ethic into development. If they improve their weaknesses they will literally be unstoppable. But it's up to them and them alone(and coaches helping of course) not the players around them.

Simmons gets a jumper and he's unguardable. Embiid learns how to handle double teams better and situational decision-making and he will be too.

That work needs to be done during the summer.

[Wilfried]

I feel we will end up with Ennis (or Scott) in the starting 5 after some months, while Horford will come of the bench.

Which gives us a second unit of Milton-Zhaire-Thybulle-Scott-Horford. If Shake can attack the basket, that's a great bench unit with very very good D.

Think this will win us a lot of games

[76ciology]

Spoiler:

The only one who can unlock Simmons and Embiid is their own work ethic into development. If they improve their weaknesses they will literally be unstoppable. But it's up to them and them alone(and coaches helping of course) not the players around them.

Simmons gets a jumper and he's unguardable. Embiid learns how to handle double teams better and situational decision-making and he will be too.

That work needs to be done during the summer.

true, but it will take a lot of before they can reach that.

You also have to put the stars to be great. A good example was the Lakers squad of 2010. Odom was a special player, but he is a flawed. But being special allow him to play with Gasol and Bynum. When those three were on the court, they were a match-up nightmare. Another example were AI at SG, ESnow and AI were flawed players, their uniqueness made it work with ESnow’s ability to defend SGs and AI’s quickness against most SGs.

[VDT]

2. Embiid can take gasol one on one. That’s not the problem. The problem is the other team help defense. Even look at last year Celtics playoffs. The cheat help defense. Embiid sees it. It makes him hesistate. Which is bad for ball movement. And guess who the cheat defender is guarding??? Simmons. In Toronto series. Leonard would have been called for illegal nba defense had this been the 1990s. He was cheating over all the time. Baiting. Waiting. Unfortunately. It’s hard to play dominant post offense in this era with no true nba illegal defense. Embiid has to make his move within 1 second. Or it’s too late and the cheat defense covers.

Except the Raptors weren't doubling Embiid that series.

Our last two playoff losses against the Celts and Raps are because we don’t have a favorable mismatch. And in both series, Embiid has shown that he isn’t as effective at the post as in regular season.

Just like Shaq or D12, teams would eventually catch up and prepare for you. They will stack up bigs to slow you down. Raps showed it when they traded JV for Gasol.

The addition of Horford was a stroke of genius. It doesnt just fill our biggest need, a RELIABLE back-up C. But it creates all kind of mismatch advantage for Ben, Tobi and Biid. Unless teams will play twin tower with a 6’10 backcourt player, we will always have a legs up with our match-ups.

P.S. Embiid can’t take Gasol 1 on 1. And by the definition of “take”, it’s not scoring a bucket but by getting his 25-26 a game regular season average.

There were several issues with the Gasol- Embiid matchup.

For one Gasol is a big dude so it its hard for Embiid to physically dominate him particularly on an injured knee. Secondly although Embiid is faster and he could drive past him, it wasnt possible due to the poor spacing and the help defense. Thirdly i think Embiid at that point is not that confident with his back to the basket. If he had a reliable hook shot he could use easily against Gasol who never jumps to contest shots.

Regardless, and thats the silver the lining here, Embiid, although injured, played better against Gasol compared to the regular season. The same against the Nets.

[76ciology]

Except the Raptors weren't doubling Embiid that series.

Our last two playoff losses against the Celts and Raps are because we don’t have a favorable mismatch. And in both series, Embiid has shown that he isn’t as effective at the post as in regular season.

Just like Shaq or D12, teams would eventually catch up and prepare for you. They will stack up bigs to slow you down. Raps showed it when they traded JV for Gasol.

The addition of Horford was a stroke of genius. It doesnt just fill our biggest need, a RELIABLE back-up C. But it creates all kind of mismatch advantage for Ben, Tobi and Biid. Unless teams will play twin tower with a 6’10 backcourt player, we will always have a legs up with our match-ups.

P.S. Embiid can’t take Gasol 1 on 1. And by the definition of “take”, it’s not scoring a bucket but by getting his 25-26 a game regular season average.

There were several issues with the Gasol- Embiid matchup.

For one Gasol is a big dude so it its hard for Embiid to physically dominate him particularly on an injured knee. Secondly although Embiid is faster and he could drive past him, it wasnt possible due to the poor spacing and the help defense. Thirdly i think Embiid at that point is not that confident with his back to the basket. If he had a reliable hook shot he could use easily against Gasol who never jumps to contest shots.

Regardless, and thats the silver the lining here, Embiid, although injured, played better against Gasol compared to the regular season. The same against the Nets.

Until he proves otherwise, we’ll leave it as Embiid can’t get his numbers with Baynes, Horford and Gasol.

Post offense is efficient in general. But if it’s within a favorable mismatch, then it maybe an efficient way to score a basket. With Shaq, if centers are 5s and PFs are 4s, Shaq is a 6. With Embiid, he’s just a 5

[VDT]

Our last two playoff losses against the Celts and Raps are because we don’t have a favorable mismatch. And in both series, Embiid has shown that he isn’t as effective at the post as in regular season.

Just like Shaq or D12, teams would eventually catch up and prepare for you. They will stack up bigs to slow you down. Raps showed it when they traded JV for Gasol.

The addition of Horford was a stroke of genius. It doesnt just fill our biggest need, a RELIABLE back-up C. But it creates all kind of mismatch advantage for Ben, Tobi and Biid. Unless teams will play twin tower with a 6’10 backcourt player, we will always have a legs up with our match-ups.

P.S. Embiid can’t take Gasol 1 on 1. And by the definition of “take”, it’s not scoring a bucket but by getting his 25-26 a game regular season average.

There were several issues with the Gasol- Embiid matchup.

For one Gasol is a big dude so it its hard for Embiid to physically dominate him particularly on an injured knee. Secondly although Embiid is faster and he could drive past him, it wasnt possible due to the poor spacing and the help defense. Thirdly i think Embiid at that point is not that confident with his back to the basket. If he had a reliable hook shot he could use easily against Gasol who never jumps to contest shots.

Regardless, and thats the silver the lining here, Embiid, although injured, played better against Gasol compared to the regular season. The same against the Nets.

Until he proves otherwise, we’ll leave it as Embiid can’t get his numbers with Baynes, Horford and Gasol.

Post offense is efficient in general. But if it’s within a favorable mismatch, then it maybe an efficient way to score a basket. With Shaq, if centers are 5s and PFs are 4s, Shaq is a 6. With Embiid, he’s just a 5

That's wrong though. This year he averaged something like 29/15 at 60 TS against the Celtics.

Its pretty much Gasol that has routinely given him trouble during the regular season.

[LloydFree]

I feel we will end up with Ennis (or Scott) in the starting 5 after some months, while Horford will come of the bench.

Which gives us a second unit of Milton-Zhaire-Thybulle-Scott-Horford. If Shake can attack the basket, that's a great bench unit with very very good D.

Think this will win us a lot of games

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[Bum Adebayo]

There were several issues with the Gasol- Embiid matchup.

For one Gasol is a big dude so it its hard for Embiid to physically dominate him particularly on an injured knee. Secondly although Embiid is faster and he could drive past him, it wasnt possible due to the poor spacing and the help defense. Thirdly i think Embiid at that point is not that confident with his back to the basket. If he had a reliable hook shot he could use easily against Gasol who never jumps to contest shots.

Regardless, and thats the silver the lining here, Embiid, although injured, played better against Gasol compared to the regular season. The same against the Nets.

Until he proves otherwise, we’ll leave it as Embiid can’t get his numbers with Baynes, Horford and Gasol.

Post offense is efficient in general. But if it’s within a favorable mismatch, then it maybe an efficient way to score a basket. With Shaq, if centers are 5s and PFs are 4s, Shaq is a 6. With Embiid, he’s just a 5

That's wrong though. This year he averaged something like 29/15 at 60 TS against the Celtics.

Its pretty much Gasol that has routinely given him trouble during the regular season.

He struggled against Horford, which doesn't mean he struggled lately against Celtics. What happens is that Horford didn't guard him all that much this last year. I've seen a stat posted in GB where Embiid has terrible percentages when Horford guards him, but I don't know where I can find shooting percentages when certain player guards you, if anyone knows it would be helpful.

[76ciology]

bucjs has to play Wes Mat (notorious negative player) for long minutes to match-up with our size because no way Hill can defend Tobi or Ben.

I also like our chances on D with Horford or Biid as the 5 who’s going to defend Giannis for the entire game.