Summer Free Agency 2019 Part 4

[Sixersftw]

He stay?

It would have been weird without any real meme teamers around.

[ckchen]

only sad that this happens on the same day JAKARR signs with Indy.

[SixthStreet]

We are running it back!!

[LloydFree]

I guess this is good news for Raul Neto. I guess Josh Richardson is the 3rd PG. Simmons will need to run in all scrimmages.

[Arsenal]

I guess this is good news for Raul Neto. I guess Josh Richardson is the 3rd PG. Simmons will need to run in all scrimmages.

I don't think these are related. We still have 1 more open roster spot. We obviously wanted a shooter (or a potential shooter), which is why we signed Korkmaz after striking out on Korver.

If they want another PG they'll get one. Looks like they may not want one though.

EDIT: not sure if Exhibit 10 contracts count against the roster limit or not. If so then we are out of spots.

[Arsenal]

Big fan of resigning Kork. For as much as people were crying and whining last year, it's undeniable that his game took a big jump forward last season at age 21. There is no reason he can't continue to improve and solidify a spot in the rotation as soon as this season if he continues to work.

[Kobblehead]

Been saying how sneaky good Korkmaz is, all year. Glad he survived the Brett doghouse and could be poised for a clean slate with coach.

No more Fultz situation for them to beef over.

[Skates]

Pretty sure they see Shake as the third PG, though his SL performance is at least concerning in that role.

[LloydFree]

I guess this is good news for Raul Neto. I guess Josh Richardson is the 3rd PG. Simmons will need to run in all scrimmages.

I don't think these are related. We still have 1 more open roster spot. We obviously wanted a shooter (or a potential shooter), which is why we signed Korkmaz after striking out on Korver.

If they want another PG they'll get one. Looks like they may not want one though.

EDIT: not sure if Exhibit 10 contracts count against the roster limit or not If so then we are out of spots.

They don't count against the roster limit or the salary cap. It's just a way of bribing rookies to go to the G- League (and having their rights) for less than 50k.

[Sixerscan]

The roster limit is 20 until opening night anyway.

[PhilasFinest]

This is a bad look for the FO when its clear that Korver is needed here, and our GM was on the radio a couple days ago saying we're going to sign this guy without saying his name.

Was he just pulling ish out of his @ss? Why would Elton say we're going to sign this guy then he signs with our #1 rival?

Maybe he was in fact, referencing Korkmaz and we didn't even realize it lol

[youngcrev]

Remember when people were freaking out about not picking up Korkmaz option?

[the_process]

Remember when people were freaking out about not picking up Korkmaz option?

Yes, and Korkmaz might’ve been enough to swap in for Shamet in the T.Harris deal had they picked up that option. Worst case scenario, he has a higher salary for trade filler this year.

Another example of this team losing value at the margins.

On another note, I wonder what happened with Fenerbache?

[youngcrev]

Remember when people were freaking out about not picking up Korkmaz option?

Yes, and Korkmaz might’ve been enough to swap in for Shamet in the T.Harris deal had they picked up that option. Worst case scenario, he has a higher salary for trade filler this year.

Another example of this team losing value at the margins.

On another note, I wonder what happened with Fenerbache?

Oh, come on, that's ridiculous.

And they used that cap space

[BullyKing]

Remember when people were freaking out about not picking up Korkmaz option?

Yes, and Korkmaz might’ve been enough to swap in for Shamet in the T.Harris deal had they picked up that option. Worst case scenario, he has a higher salary for trade filler this year.

Another example of this team losing value at the margins.

On another note, I wonder what happened with Fenerbache?

To defend them a bit, I don't think that's right. First, Shamet was clearly not in the Tobias trade as mere salary filler but an actual asset that they wanted. I think the Sixers and Korkmaz mutually slinking back to each other shows he has no value around the league.

And his higher salary this year would have been a real issue since we ended up operating below the cap.

[the_process]

Remember when people were freaking out about not picking up Korkmaz option?

Yes, and Korkmaz might’ve been enough to swap in for Shamet in the T.Harris deal had they picked up that option. Worst case scenario, he has a higher salary for trade filler this year.

Another example of this team losing value at the margins.

On another note, I wonder what happened with Fenerbache?

To defend them a bit, I don't think that's right. First, Shamet was clearly not in the Tobias trade as mere salary filler but an actual asset that they wanted. I think the Sixers and Korkmaz mutually slinking back to each other shows he has no value around the league.

And his higher salary this year would have been a real issue since we ended up operating below the cap.

I agree the Clips wanted Shamet, but could’ve sold them on another young shooter with two years of cheap team control instead especially since they were giving two 1sts. And as far as Kork’s salary goes, could’ve just given Al a flat 4-100 at 25M per, which would’ve been better for tax purposes in 20-21 and 21-22 than what they actually did, and fit him in just fine.

[BullyKing]

Yes, and Korkmaz might’ve been enough to swap in for Shamet in the T.Harris deal had they picked up that option. Worst case scenario, he has a higher salary for trade filler this year.

Another example of this team losing value at the margins.

On another note, I wonder what happened with Fenerbache?

To defend them a bit, I don't think that's right. First, Shamet was clearly not in the Tobias trade as mere salary filler but an actual asset that they wanted. I think the Sixers and Korkmaz mutually slinking back to each other shows he has no value around the league.

And his higher salary this year would have been a real issue since we ended up operating below the cap.

I agree the Clips wanted Shamet, but could’ve sold them on another young shooter with two years of cheap team control instead especially since they were giving two 1sts. And as far as Kork’s salary goes, could’ve just given Al a flat 4-100 at 25M per, which would’ve been better for tax purposes in 20-21 and 21-22 than what they actually did, and fit him in just fine.

I don't know. I'm sure they tried to get Harris and Horford for less. Now you can certainly make a reasonable argument that they should have walked away from him either but I'd be surprised if they didn't try to get the prices down as much as possible.

[the_process]

To defend them a bit, I don't think that's right. First, Shamet was clearly not in the Tobias trade as mere salary filler but an actual asset that they wanted. I think the Sixers and Korkmaz mutually slinking back to each other shows he has no value around the league.

And his higher salary this year would have been a real issue since we ended up operating below the cap.

I agree the Clips wanted Shamet, but could’ve sold them on another young shooter with two years of cheap team control instead especially since they were giving two 1sts. And as far as Kork’s salary goes, could’ve just given Al a flat 4-100 at 25M per, which would’ve been better for tax purposes in 20-21 and 21-22 than what they actually did, and fit him in just fine.

I don't know. I'm sure they tried to get Harris and Horford for less. Now you can certainly make a reasonable argument that they should have walked away from him either but I'd be surprised if they didn't try to get the prices down as much as possible.

Don’t forget the Thybulle trade. Elton seems to like to pay top price.

[BullyKing]

I agree the Clips wanted Shamet, but could’ve sold them on another young shooter with two years of cheap team control instead especially since they were giving two 1sts. And as far as Kork’s salary goes, could’ve just given Al a flat 4-100 at 25M per, which would’ve been better for tax purposes in 20-21 and 21-22 than what they actually did, and fit him in just fine.

I don't know. I'm sure they tried to get Harris and Horford for less. Now you can certainly make a reasonable argument that they should have walked away from him either but I'd be surprised if they didn't try to get the prices down as much as possible.

Don’t forget the Thybulle trade. Elton seems to like to pay top price.

I've been as critical as anyone about his less than judicious use of assets. But I just don't think swapping out Korkmaz for Shamet was something he could have pulled off. But definitely concerning that he doesn't appear to have a walkaway point once he locks in on something.

In fairness though, I've been shocked at the prices in a lot of trades this summer (Crabbe dump, Iggy dump, AD, PG13, Josh Jackson dump, Conley trade).

[ProcessDoctor]

I guess this is good news for Raul Neto. I guess Josh Richardson is the 3rd PG. Simmons will need to run in all scrimmages.

I agree, it looks like they signed Neto with the intent of him soaking up the backup PG minutes.

Simmons(33)/Neto(15)
Richardson(33)/Smith(15)
Harris(16)/Ennis(24)/Thybulle(8)
Horford(10)/Harris(18)/Scott(20)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)

For the PO’s Thybulle and Neto or Smith (if he underwhelms) get squeezed out of the rotation. Maybe we’ll add another quality player at the deadline.