Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Season

Kobblehead · Post #1121 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:25 pm

I think it's a no-brainer on our end.

Rose gives us two years of significant scoring production out of the G spot. Which is our biggest need. Kennard is a good, productive shooter/scorer type that we've had success with in the past (Redick, Belinelli).

51X3RF4N · Post #1122 » by **51X3RF4N** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:29 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I think it's a no-brainer on our end.

Rose gives us two years of significant scoring production out of the G spot. Which is our biggest need. Kennard is a good, productive shooter/scorer type that we've had success with in the past (Redick, Belinelli).

Yes, the production out of the G spot is our biggest need. Hehehee

Kobblehead · Post #1123 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:41 pm

I wonder if Golden State would take an irrelevant prospect with some team control years off our hands for Alec Burks. I would think that anything they get for him can be viewed as profit since he's a mere vet minimum guy they shined up. I wonder if they'd want Milton or Bolden.

51X3RF4N · Post #1124 » by **51X3RF4N** » Sun Jan 12, 2020 11:00 pm

I just did an exercise in 2K...

Traded Al Horford, Neto, Shake and Bolden in a 3 team deal for Bertans, Covington, and Teague.

Washington got Shake and Bolden as future prospects plus a pick.

Minny got Neto and Horford

Simulated the season with Harris at PF and Cov starting.

Teague, Thybulle, Korkmaz, Bertans, O'Quinn off the bench.

Went 74-8. Beat Lakers in game 7 at home in Philly.

I feel like that move would make a major difference in the real team's chances too.

Yes, the starters lack a "closer" but Teague brings playmaking off the bench, Bertans brings sharpshooting.

And Harris/Covington fit so much better at their natural positions next to Embiid and Simmons that I think you could run a more efficient offense using JRich as more of a ball handler and you'd actually get some better space.

Kobblehead · Post #1125 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:18 am

Kobblehead wrote:I wonder if Golden State would take an irrelevant prospect with some team control years off our hands for Alec Burks. I would think that anything they get for him can be viewed as profit since he's a mere vet minimum guy they shined up. I wonder if they'd want Milton or Bolden.

Do this solid for us and we'll have a handshake agreement that we'll do a Simmons for Russell swap this summer.

Negrodamus · Post #1126 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:19 am

Wonder if Kyrie and LeVert will take Dinwiddie's value now.

Kobblehead · Post #1127 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:21 am

Negrodamus wrote:Wonder if Kyrie and LeVert will take Dinwiddie's value now.

I think Dinwiddie was a bubble waiting to burst. And I would fully vote him to the allstar game this year, too. I just don't think this is the real him.

tsmith · Post #1128 » by **tsmith** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:24 am

Negrodamus wrote:Wonder if Kyrie and LeVert will take Dinwiddie's value now.

Be good if it did, he's looked ten times the player when not playing with Kyrie. If he could be attained it would be awesome.

Kobblehead · Post #1129 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:29 am

Dinwiddie for Richardson swap seems equal value. They're basically the same tier of player, with each player having some superior qualities to the other.

Richardson a better defender and shooter. Dinwiddie being better on the ball, with both his scoring and his distributing.

Not sure I want to arm Durant/Irving with a ideal complimentary starter as they destroy us next year, though. Can we win it all with Dinwiddie this year?

Negrodamus · Post #1130 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:33 am

Kobblehead wrote:Dinwiddie for Richardson swap seems equal value. They're basically the same tier of player, with each player having some superior qualities to the other.

Richardson a better defender and shooter. Dinwiddie being better on the ball, with both his scoring and his distributing.

Not sure I want to arm Durant/Irving with a ideal complimentary starter as they destroy us next year, though. Can we win it all with Dinwiddie this year?

I think we have a better chance at winning it all with a guy who gets to the line at an excellent rate and can create for the team (while not being afraid to shoot).

He would open up the game for Embiid so much more than anyone on this team could on offense.

Skates · Post #1131 » by **Skates** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 2:49 am

Derrick Rose and Markieff Morris would be a really nice package to get from the Pistons when the firesale begins in Detroit. Scott has been completely disappointing this year, can add in Neto and Zhaire and the money works, plus toss in a second rounder or replace Neto with Bolden if they want another young player. I can't see them giving up Kennard, but Morris, if healthy, can hit the three from the four spot and Rose can just flat out score even if he isn't a pure shooter by any means. Rose's attacking style might be a good example for Simmons to learn from as well, and Morris would be a better match with Joel than Horford (who should be our sixth man and paired more with Simmons in game).

creek48 · Post #1132 » by **creek48** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 3:17 am

Skates wrote:Derrick Rose and Markieff Morris would be a really nice package to get from the Pistons when the firesale begins in Detroit. Scott has been completely disappointing this year, can add in Neto and Zhaire and the money works, plus toss in a second rounder or replace Neto with Bolden if they want another young player. I can't see them giving up Kennard, but Morris, if healthy, can hit the three from the four spot and Rose can just flat out score even if he isn't a pure shooter by any means. Rose's attacking style might be a good example for Simmons to learn from as well, and Morris would be a better match with Joel than Horford (who should be our sixth man and paired more with Simmons in game).

That would be a great trade but Detroit would have to get more value back for Rose. I'm not saying it can't be done but the Sixers would have to give up their first second round pick this year and a future 1st rounder. The Pistons would probably want Thybulle in place of a future 1st round pick, but he should be off the table. Me I would be good with giving up picks. The league is so open this year. A line up of Embiid, Simmons, Rose, Harris and Richardson and our 6-9 players being Al Horford, Thybulle, Morris and Ennis would be a great rotation. We would not improve our 3 point shooting much with that group but on defense there is no weakness.

Kobblehead · Post #1133 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:07 am

I think I might do it if it's only 1 first rounder. It's not like Rose is a rental. Throwing Thybulle in, in lieu of a pick would be way more ideal, to me.

tsmith · Post #1134 » by **tsmith** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:00 am

Kobblehead wrote:Dinwiddie for Richardson swap seems equal value. They're basically the same tier of player, with each player having some superior qualities to the other.

Richardson a better defender and shooter. Dinwiddie being better on the ball, with both his scoring and his distributing.

Not sure I want to arm Durant/Irving with a ideal complimentary starter as they destroy us next year, though. Can we win it all with Dinwiddie this year?

Unsure on salaries but rather wait for the offseason and try something centred around Simmons for Dinwiddie + Harris.

Kobblehead · Post #1135 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 4:27 pm

I'm still probably not doing any deal with Brooklyn because they already have two hall of famers and I don't want to help them become even more like a superteam than they already are.

Negrodamus · Post #1136 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 5:18 pm

Kobblehead wrote:I'm still probably not doing any deal with Brooklyn because they already have two hall of famers and I don't want to help them become even more like a superteam than they already are.

I don’t think Richardson is the difference between a championship for them. I think having one of the better backcourt scorers only the league would be a massive difference. A trade would help, but I don’t think as much as you think.

Kobblehead · Post #1137 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 13, 2020 6:35 pm

I keep circling back to Derrick Rose. I think it could be a season-saving acquisition for us. And the city would definitely rally around him like they haven't a G since Iverson. And it also probably facilitates a Ben Simmons trade this summer when the team gets a taste of what a real ball handler does for Embiid/the offense.

ankle420breaker · Post #1138 » by **ankle420breaker** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 1:39 pm

Our lack of outside shooting is on full display.

Belinelli should be available and affordable. Send KO along with one of Neto, Zhaire, Bolden, or Milton.

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51X3RF4N · Post #1139 » by **51X3RF4N** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:01 pm

My list of players I think can help this Sixers squad, assuming the front office fully believes in the starting lineup...

Rose
Galloway
Kennard
Either Morris twin
Ntilikina
Bertans
IT
Burks
Josh Hart
Elie Okobo
Patrick Mills
Tyus Jones- a/t ratio, steals, meh shooter
Solomon Hill

That's only 14 players amongst the entire NBA I feel are able to be acquired via trade that would actually help this roster, and they would all be boosting depth more than anything.

If the front office doesn't realize by now that the starting lineup is not going to work together, then we are in for a long 4 year stretch of ridiculousness.

XDevilBoiX · Post #1140 » by **XDevilBoiX** » Tue Jan 14, 2020 2:02 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Our lack of outside shooting is on full display.

Belinelli should be available and affordable. Send KO along with one of Neto, Zhaire, Bolden, or Milton.

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Not even sure he can help this team as he’s a black hole of defense. Teams already have game tape on how to exploit him on defense. He’ll make the defense worst as they aren’t that great this year.