Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Season

LloydFree · Post #1361 » by **LloydFree** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 7:53 pm

Kobblehead wrote:How about this Richardson trade:

Josh Richardson
Mike Scott

for

Kyle Kuzma
Danny Green

As long as there's no weird stuff between Simmons/Kuzma, I think the trade really makes sense for us. We get an ideal, productive point getter from the F spot off the bench. We get a dependable, trustworthy, experienced 3&D G in Danny Green. Brett gets one of his favorite players on the team. Thybulle/Smith get a mentor.

Kuzma is a waste of time, so he isn't worth downgrading Richardson for Danny Green. While Danny Green is a slightly better shooter than Richardson, he's a statue with the ball and can be taken out of games. At least Richardson can pretend to create and dribble a basketball when Simmons is taken off the ball.

Negrodamus · Post #1362 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:03 pm

Why get Kuzma? Isn't his best case scenario basically Tobias?

Kobblehead · Post #1363 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:25 pm

Negrodamus wrote:Why get Kuzma? Isn't his best case scenario basically Tobias?

Because he's making almost no money for the next year and a half and provides fantastic scoring production.

Negrodamus · Post #1364 » by **Negrodamus** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:42 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Why get Kuzma? Isn't his best case scenario basically Tobias?

Because he's making almost no money for the next year and a half and provides fantastic scoring production.

It doesn't say anything that once his team is finally good and in the need for a third scorer, he's putting up 12 ppg and regressed in all aspects of his game?

Kobblehead · Post #1365 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 8:53 pm

Negrodamus wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
Negrodamus wrote:Why get Kuzma? Isn't his best case scenario basically Tobias?

Because he's making almost no money for the next year and a half and provides fantastic scoring production.

It doesn't say anything that once his team is finally good and in the need for a third scorer, he's putting up 12 ppg and regressed in all aspects of his game?

His per-minute production isn't that far off his career output. 19.5 ppg per-36 in in his first two years. 18.6 ppg per-36 this year. He got hurt with Team USA so had a late start with the current group of Lakers and then has had trouble fitting in with the social dynamics in addition to the oncourt stuff. That's all that says to me, to be honest.

He's still a really talented player capable of incredible production. And his step up ability speaks for itself. As evident in that no Brow/Bron game against the Thunder.

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Mik317 · Post #1366 » by **Mik317** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:04 pm

don't think we need another SF/PF type honestly

stormi · Post #1367 » by **stormi** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:15 pm

Kobblehead wrote:How about this Richardson trade:

Josh Richardson
Mike Scott

for

Kyle Kuzma
Danny Green

As long as there's no weird stuff between Simmons/Kuzma, I think the trade really makes sense for us. We get an ideal, productive point getter from the F spot off the bench. We get a dependable, trustworthy, experienced 3&D G in Danny Green. Brett gets one of his favorite players on the team. Thybulle/Smith get a mentor.

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XtremeDunkz · Post #1368 » by **XtremeDunkz** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:19 pm

Tobi and JRich still constantly disrespected by this fanbase. Got people talking about Kuzma and Morris lol **** out of here.

Kobblehead · Post #1369 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:26 pm

Mik317 wrote:don't think we need another SF/PF type honestly

Yeah, but then you look to the scorer's table and see Mike Scott about to check into the game.

We definitely need a G. But we also need a F.

skulky · Post #1370 » by **skulky** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 9:41 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
Mik317 wrote:don't think we need another SF/PF type honestly

Yeah, but then you look to the scorer's table and see Mike Scott about to check into the game.

We definitely need a G. But we also need a F.

Yeah but your trade has zero chance of happening, does little for us and would be a hell no from the lakers. They’d see j rich/Danny green as a wash since green is a much better shooter, similar defense and j rich has limited creation dribbling. So then it’s Kuzma for Scott, they’re looking for a complimentary piece for their last asset Kuzma.

Acquiring Kuzma would just be putting him in same situation here except he’d be 4th in pecking order at pf behind horford, tobias, and Ben. And he really doesn’t shoot or produce good enough to take ball out of our players hands. LA values him too much and he doesn’t help much here. Is he an upgrade over mike Scott? But that’s not saying much.

Not sure moving j rich is good idea until offseason, hoping Thybulle is more ready to take Richardson’s spot next year. I think another ball handler/shot creator and high volume shooter are more priority.

Kobblehead · Post #1371 » by **Kobblehead** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:18 pm

XtremeDunkz wrote:Tobi and JRich still constantly disrespected by this fanbase. Got people talking about Kuzma and Morris lol **** out of here.

The gap between Kuzma and Scott is far greater than the gap between Richardson and Green. I think it's a good trade.

Also, hot take, I think Kuzma is more talented than Richardson. One and half years of Kuzma making no money and putting up crazy per minute scoring production off our bench sounds incredible to me.

youngcrev · Post #1372 » by **youngcrev** » Mon Jan 27, 2020 10:18 pm

Since we're talking Josh trades and have been linked to both Rose and strangely (from the Pistons perspective) Kennard... Would ya (Josh for those 2)?

A guard rotation of Rose/Thybulle/Kennard gives you a little bit of everything skill set wise

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #1373 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:05 am

Gordon Hayward and Robert Williams for Horford , Zhiare Smith and Bolden.

Philly gets a Gordon Hayward a shotmaker who make shots and play like a forward version of JJ Redick.

stormi · Post #1374 » by **stormi** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:16 am

I feel like I'm the only Sixers fan that like's Al and his contribution to this team. I get the fit between him and Embiid is messy, but I think he still provides a real productive role on this team. BB needs to get better at staggering this rosters minutes. There shouldn't ever be stretches of play where we're running Neto/Ennis/Scott/Pell(/O'Quinn) units.

We need more ball handling and shot creation, also more consistent role players than Ennis or Scott.

Kennard, Rose, Dinwiddie types really interest me. Mega pass on Bertans, Roco, Iggy etc

the_process · Post #1375 » by **the_process** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:16 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Gordon Hayward and Robert Williams for Horford , Zhiare Smith and Bolden.

Philly gets a Gordon Hayward a shotmaker who make shots and play like a forward version of JJ Redick.

You're giving your main rival back an Embiid stopper. Can't do that.

the_process · Post #1376 » by **the_process** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:29 am

youngcrev wrote:Since we're talking Josh trades and have been linked to both Rose and strangely (from the Pistons perspective) Kennard... Would ya (Josh for those 2)?

A guard rotation of Rose/Thybulle/Kennard gives you a little bit of everything skill set wise

Josh for both Rose and Kennard? Yeah, I think I'd do that.

creek48 · Post #1377 » by **creek48** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:42 am

the_process wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Since we're talking Josh trades and have been linked to both Rose and strangely (from the Pistons perspective) Kennard... Would ya (Josh for those 2)?

A guard rotation of Rose/Thybulle/Kennard gives you a little bit of everything skill set wise

Josh for both Rose and Kennard? Yeah, I think I'd do that.

That would be a massive drop in defense. No I would not like that deal. Team defense is only as good as the weakest link. I love the idea of shutting down teams with Embiid, Simmons, Harris, Richardson and Thybulle.

skulky · Post #1378 » by **skulky** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 2:43 am

stormi wrote:I feel like I'm the only Sixers fan that like's Al and his contribution to this team. I get the fit between him and Embiid is messy, but I think he still provides a real productive role on this team. BB needs to get better at staggering this rosters minutes. There shouldn't ever be stretches of play where we're running Neto/Ennis/Scott/Pell(/O'Quinn) units.

We need more ball handling and shot creation, also more consistent role players than Ennis or Scott.

Kennard, Rose, Dinwiddie types really interest me. Mega pass on Bertans, Roco, Iggy etc

Yeah I don’t get trading horford. I don’t think we can advance past Milwaukee without him this year. I think Brett needs to put horford and the rest of the players in a better position to succeed. At same time there are some flaws to the roster construction that make horford an awkward fit at times.
Hopefully this stretch without embiid empowers Ben to assert himself more and to play more aggressive offensively. Think there was some growi pains/feeling things out with this team, as well as some pretty lackluster play from both embiid and Simmons to start year.
But yeah another ball handler/shot creator, high volume shooter, and an upgrade from Scott.

Not sure why you’re so adamant against Bertans, I’d take a player that can jack up 9 3s a game at 44%, might be too expensive to acquire and also with his pending free agency could turn into another overpay. I don’t like rose don’t want to root for him with his off court issues and all the other drama his just going awol in nyc. I don’t think he’s this perfect fit.

youngcrev · Post #1379 » by **youngcrev** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 3:38 am

With Korkmaz putting together a long enough string of games that you can be reasonably confident with him in the rotation, D Rose probably is the most gettable difference maker without blowing up the starting lineup.

Scott/Zhaire/OKC 1st/ATL 2nd for Rose/Morris feels like about as good of an offer as Detroit is going to get.

Kobblehead · Post #1380 » by **Kobblehead** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 4:06 am

Rose missed tonight's game with knee soreness. Obviously we'd have the load manage the shh out of him if we acquired him. Get him to the playoffs with the perfect balance of health and rhythm.