Fantasy Trade Thread 2019-2020 Season

Arsenal · Post #1601 » by **Arsenal** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:27 am

Kobble got it backwards. 1) Teague 2) Reggie... 3) IT

Kobblehead · Post #1602 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:30 am

Arsenal wrote:Kobble got it backwards. 1) Teague 2) Reggie... 3) IT

Thomas is by far the most talented and productive of the three. And he's by far the best shooter of the three.

stormi · Post #1603 » by **stormi** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:33 am

We need our own George Hill

Teague or Reggie would be incredible

the_process · Post #1604 » by **the_process** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 6:01 am

In the summer:

Ben to CHI
Harris and Felicio to OKC
Lauri, LaVine, and Paul to PHI

Kobblehead · Post #1605 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 6:05 am

In the summer:

Ben Simmons
Mike Scott

for

Collin Sexton
Kevin Love

VDT · Post #1606 » by **VDT** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:36 pm

Lol no Kevin Love, he is useless on that contract. YOu dont pay 30 mil to someone to just chuck 3s. The Sixers dont need a PF anyway. Simmons and Embiid (if we keep both) should be the bigger guys and then have wings or tall guards in the other spots. You need some yin and yang on the team. It is much easier to find the traits we want (good shooter, fast release, play on the perimeter etc) among wings than among PFs. That would keep the team strong defensively but would give us some balance.

51X3RF4N · Post #1607 » by **51X3RF4N** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 12:52 pm

If we are trading one of Ben or Joel in the summer....I'd honestly rather trade Joel.

Likely a better return in the deal, and personally I think Joel is going to have issues with conditioning and injuries his entire career because he's not willing to put in the work on a daily basis to keep his body in top top shape.

Joel for Zack Lavine, Lauri Markkanen, and Chicagos pick unprotected. Chicago can build around Embiid/WC/Porter/White. Maybe with the teams history they actually become a free agent destination since Embiid is there.

Then trade Zhaire with Chicagos pick to whoever has the #2 pick and take Wiseman. Maybe Chicago lands close enough to the top that Zhaire is the only casualty, or maybe you have to add in some future assets.

Simmons/Shake
Lavine/Thybulle
Richardson/Korkmaz
Harris/Markkanen
Horford/Wiseman

That starting lineup would be much closer this year to winning the East. And the bench is young but has some experience. Horford spends 3 years teaching Wiseman how to be a Pro's Pro and transitions to the bench eventually.

Kobblehead · Post #1608 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 2:12 pm

VDT wrote:Lol no Kevin Love, he is useless on that contract. YOu dont pay 30 mil to someone to just chuck 3s. The Sixers dont need a PF anyway. Simmons and Embiid (if we keep both) should be the bigger guys and then have wings or tall guards in the other spots. You need some yin and yang on the team. It is much easier to find the traits we want (good shooter, fast release, play on the perimeter etc) among wings than among PFs. That would keep the team strong defensively but would give us some balance.

We have three albatross contracts (Simmons included). Swapping one of them out for another that fits better is logical to me. Also, Sexton is a star talent ball handler on a rookie contract. He's the centerpiece. We gotta stop playing around and build this thing around Embiid. Like we should have summer 2016.

Horford and Harris will be the next to go.

Kobblehead · Post #1609 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 3:52 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:Now that KAT wont be on the market, is there really any player worth trading Embiid for? I feel like the FO’s plan is to build around Simmons but I don’t see any obvious packages for Embiid.

Probably not an obvious singular player-centered package.

But if Chicago wants to go all-in with Embiid/Lavine and try to win a championship, we could take all their rookie contract players (White, Hutchinson, Carter), plus Thad Young and a couple future 1st rounders.

I think we should just build around Embiid, though. It's just easier to. Simmons should probably be the one to go.

stormi · Post #1610 » by **stormi** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 4:11 pm

51X3RF4N wrote:If we are trading one of Ben or Joel in the summer....I'd honestly rather trade Joel.

Likely a better return in the deal, and personally I think Joel is going to have issues with conditioning and injuries his entire career because he's not willing to put in the work on a daily basis to keep his body in top top shape.

Joel for Zack Lavine, Lauri Markkanen, and Chicagos pick unprotected. Chicago can build around Embiid/WC/Porter/White. Maybe with the teams history they actually become a free agent destination since Embiid is there.

Then trade Zhaire with Chicagos pick to whoever has the #2 pick and take Wiseman. Maybe Chicago lands close enough to the top that Zhaire is the only casualty, or maybe you have to add in some future assets.

Simmons/Shake
Lavine/Thybulle
Richardson/Korkmaz
Harris/Markkanen
Horford/Wiseman

That starting lineup would be much closer this year to winning the East. And the bench is young but has some experience. Horford spends 3 years teaching Wiseman how to be a Pro's Pro and transitions to the bench eventually.

You guys be proposing cool trades and it makes me want to do them.

Embiid to the Bulls would be crazy but i could live with a package of Lavine, Marksman (who is being disgustingly used by Boylen) and a 1st.

If we could find a way to dump Harris that would be even better, for say Love + pick(s). His contract isn't great either but he's just a flat out better player, on both sides of the ball and would fit like glue with Ben - and we're off his money one year sooner.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1611 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 4:21 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:Now that KAT wont be on the market, is there really any player worth trading Embiid for? I feel like the FO’s plan is to build around Simmons but I don’t see any obvious packages for Embiid.

Probably not an obvious singular player-centered package.

But if Chicago wants to go all-in with Embiid/Lavine and try to win a championship, we could take all their rookie contract players (White, Hutchinson, Carter), plus Thad Young and a couple future 1st rounders.

I think we should just build around Embiid, though. It's just easier to. Simmons should probably be the one to go.

I hear ya RE Ben. Both stars have their flaws that will make it difficult to build around.

What I’ve gathered from the FO though is that they’ve decided to build around Ben. Neither Horford nor Harris fit with Embiid, but do with Ben. JJ and Jimmy both fit with Embiid and they let both go, so...

Edit: Do you (or anyone else) think there’s a coach alive who can build an adequate system around these 2?

Kobblehead · Post #1612 » by **Kobblehead** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 8:59 pm

Yes, but it requires a reality check for Ben Simmons. He's not a PG and needs to move off the ball. He needs to play PF so we can start three wings that can ball/shoot.

We even have some pieces right now that can piece together a functional offense.

Embiid
Simmons
Thybulle / Korkmaz
Richardson
Milton

And if we're able to upgrade the talent level of those wings, we become a perennial contender.

ProcessDoctor · Post #1613 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 9:05 pm

Honestly, IDK why we didn't do a Harris-DLO swap if GS's asking price was so cheap. It's just sad everyone except our FO sees this team's flaws/shortcomings.

the_process · Post #1614 » by **the_process** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 10:32 pm

Building a team around a guy who will never shoot (he's been named an All-Star twice, he clearly thinks that since he's a multi-time All-Star without shooting, why should he ever have to shoot) is really tough. You pretty much have to use him like how DEN uses Jokic. Except Jokic shoots, but otherwise the same. And do we really think DEN and Jokic will ever win anything? No.

The new FO will have to come to the logical conclusion that you trade Ben and build around Jo. Everyone is complaining in the game thread about Jo's offense being dependent on foul calls... he's the only one on the team who can get to the line consistently! And you need that as part of a good offense.

Harris, Horford, and Ben all have to go in the summer.

the_process · Post #1615 » by **the_process** » Fri Feb 7, 2020 10:33 pm

Kobblehead wrote:In the summer:

Ben Simmons
Mike Scott

for

Collin Sexton
Kevin Love

If the Cavs will take Harris and two 1sts for Sexton and Love then sure.

76ciology · Post #1616 » by **76ciology** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:17 am

Siakam and future first (protected until it becomes unprotected) for Embiid.

Horford
Siakam
Tobi
JRich
Ben

ProcessDoctor · Post #1617 » by **ProcessDoctor** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 3:23 am

Posted in tonight's GT, but let's approach Portland about a Harris-CJ swap this summer.

CJ(34)/Simmons(14)
Richardson(32)/Milton(16)
Thybulle(24)/Korkmaz(24)
Simmons(20)/MLE(18)/Horford(10)
Embiid(30)/Horford(18)

Modern. NBA. Offense.

Kobblehead · Post #1618 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 2:54 pm

Yeah, we need Portland to either miss the playoffs or get bounced in round 1 for them to finally decide to retool. And we need Melo to retire but Dame to have liked to play with a big PF-sized scorer he can pass to, thus leaving Tobias Harris as an appealing piece.

Arsenal · Post #1619 » by **Arsenal** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 6:54 pm

Any interest in Christian Wood this summer? He's having a breakout season, and looks like he could be nice as the primary back 4/5, providing some rim protection and also spacing the floor. I assume it would take the full midlevel (~$10M/yr) to get him. IMO we'd be better off with a guy like him at that money versus Al Horford.

youngcrev · Post #1620 » by **youngcrev** » Sat Feb 8, 2020 7:35 pm

Arsenal wrote:Any interest in Christian Wood this summer? He's having a breakout season, and looks like he could be nice as the primary back 4/5, providing some rim protection and also spacing the floor. I assume it would take the full midlevel (~$10M/yr) to get him. IMO we'd be better off with a guy like him at that money versus Al Horford.

Presuming we can find a landing spot for Horford?