Joel Embiid

the_process · Post #1121 » by **the_process** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 4:25 pm

kuclas wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:If we go down 0-2 or 1-2, you play Embiid no matter what.

The only thing that matters is playoff games. If we're holding him out to preserve him for the future, that's a fake-smart move. What if he suffers hairline fracture in his shooting wrist this time next year? Do we then shut him down in the postseason to preserve him for the next year? Can't keep doing that. Play him.

Why not just play him in game 1 to began with? Better to protect the home games at all cost.

The thinking of trying to preserve him for an extra week of healing doesn’t make much sense. If the knee is really swollen. He shouldn’t play the series at all. We don’t have a second alpha scorer like golden state had to let KD rest an entire series.

So if injury could get worse. Don’t play him. If injury is manageable as they say. Play him game 1.

Agreed. This injury isn't going to heal in a week or two. If it is truly manageable, then he needs to be on the floor Game 1. But I have no expectation that the Sixers will be honest about this with Jo or themselves, though. They are going to try and beat the Hawks without him and roll him out for the Conference Finals if they do.

stormi · Post #1122 » by **stormi** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 4:56 pm

I'd be shocked if he's out there tomorrow. As positive as the reports are sounding, he still hasn't participated in game simulated practices.

Still eyeing game 3 personally. Maybe 2, but i'm sure he could be out there if it were a do or die.

Kobblehead · Post #1123 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 5:35 pm

kuclas wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:If we go down 0-2 or 1-2, you play Embiid no matter what.

The only thing that matters is playoff games. If we're holding him out to preserve him for the future, that's a fake-smart move. What if he suffers hairline fracture in his shooting wrist this time next year? Do we then shut him down in the postseason to preserve him for the next year? Can't keep doing that. Play him.

Why not just play him in game 1 to began with? Better to protect the home games at all cost.

The thinking of trying to preserve him for an extra week of healing doesn’t make much sense. If the knee is really swollen. He shouldn’t play the series at all. We don’t have a second alpha scorer like golden state had to let KD rest an entire series.

So if injury could get worse. Don’t play him. If injury is manageable as they say. Play him game 1.

If Dwight Howard is a reliable narrator, I would play him.

Arsenal · Post #1124 » by **Arsenal** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 6:05 pm

kuclas wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:If we go down 0-2 or 1-2, you play Embiid no matter what.

The only thing that matters is playoff games. If we're holding him out to preserve him for the future, that's a fake-smart move. What if he suffers hairline fracture in his shooting wrist this time next year? Do we then shut him down in the postseason to preserve him for the next year? Can't keep doing that. Play him.

Why not just play him in game 1 to began with? Better to protect the home games at all cost.

The thinking of trying to preserve him for an extra week of healing doesn’t make much sense. If the knee is really swollen. He shouldn’t play the series at all. We don’t have a second alpha scorer like golden state had to let KD rest an entire series.

So if injury could get worse. Don’t play him. If injury is manageable as they say. Play him game 1.

Absurd hot take.

One week could make a HUGE difference in swelling and pain. You do realize injuries tend to heal over time right?

rzzzzz · Post #1125 » by **rzzzzz** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 9:13 pm

stormi wrote:I'd be shocked if he's out there tomorrow. As positive as the reports are sounding, he still hasn't participated in game simulated practices.

Still eyeing game 3 personally. Maybe 2, but i'm sure he could be out there if it were a do or die.

If they manage to win tomorrow, they’ll keep him rested until game 3. If they lose…well, I hope he’s got the message about keeping grounded and avoiding any more bad landings.

ExplosionsInDaSky · Post #1126 » by **ExplosionsInDaSky** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 9:36 pm

They'll play him and this will come back to bite us right in the ass. Personally, I wouldn't do it. But...this narrative is getting old at this point. He's not a baby anymore. Maybe they should just play him. It's so confusing.

Kobblehead · Post #1127 » by **Kobblehead** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:05 pm

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:They'll play him and this will come back to bite us right in the ass. Personally, I wouldn't do it. But...this narrative is getting old at this point. He's not a baby anymore. Maybe they should just play him. It's so confusing.

Doesn't seem like there is a "right way" to play this. We've tried the load management route. He gets hurt anyway. So I say to just play him, at this point.

elchengue20 · Post #1128 » by **elchengue20** » Sat Jun 5, 2021 10:06 pm

Man it is a really tough call.

I woudnt play him but i also getting tired of this situation. Also Ben getting hurt last season makes it even worse.

eyeatoma · Post #1129 » by **eyeatoma** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:01 am

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SixthStreet · Post #1130 » by **SixthStreet** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 2:35 am

If I were Joshua Harris, I'd make the executive call to rest Embiid until a game 7 or the ECF. Until then let the rest of the team sink or swim.

cool93 · Post #1131 » by **cool93** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 4:38 am

SixthStreet wrote:If I were Joshua Harris, I'd make the executive call to rest Embiid until a game 7 or the ECF. Until then let the rest of the team sink or swim.

There is literally 0 chance we can force game 7 against Nets/Bucks without Embiid

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GutUNC · Post #1132 » by **GutUNC** » Sun Jun 6, 2021 1:43 pm

SixthStreet wrote:If I were Joshua Harris, I'd make the executive call to rest Embiid until a game 7 or the ECF. Until then let the rest of the team sink or swim.

If there's 1 thing I know I love from my sports teams, it's when ownership unilaterally decides to overrule players and the medical staff to make personnel decisions. There's simply no downside to that plan.

rzzzzz · Post #1133 » by **rzzzzz** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 2:50 am

39 points. Good news is if he can play at this level the rest of the way, we should at least beat the Hawks with better managed games. Hated to see him back on the floor going all out as we tried for the last minute comeback.

ConstableChaos · Post #1134 » by **ConstableChaos** » Mon Jun 7, 2021 2:58 am

The best part is he looked fantastic offensively - probably 90% of how he's looked this year

Defending the pick and roll with Young is another question, which i doubt a 100% Embiid has answers to

Post #1135 » by **Stanford** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 8:51 pm

I know this dude doesn't post here, but this is loser ****

Negrodamus · Post #1136 » by **Negrodamus** » Wed Jun 9, 2021 9:10 pm

Look at all the great stuff Embiid is doing in the playoffs! Now apply that to the regular season MVP award please!

Airtight argument.

76ciology · Post #1137 » by **76ciology** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:48 am

I dont want it to happen.

But why wont Biid just a trade out of philly?

He just fits this category based on history of superstars who tries to carry his team and fails. Garnett.. bron.. kd..

We wont likely be able to get him another franchise player to play with. And until then he wont be able to win an MVP with the heavy physical burden of it carrying our team that would lead him to miss out games. While he wont be able to win a championship by just a CJ Mccullom (who blazers is looking to dump for quite some time already) or the current squad.

Could he wait for another season or two when we’ll be in a better position to strike for a deal? I think in a season or two he’ll be like 2020 Giannis in the offseason where he’d dictate the roster or else he’d contemplate about asking out.

The best case scenario for him is to play alongside another franchise player. This will help him win an MVP, win a championship and prolong his career.

The alternative scenario for him is to stay here where he keeps holding on his knee everytime he lands, he keeps putting his arms around his waist because of fatigue, where he wont win MVP because of missing games and he wont win a championship because the team is not good enough.

syntax · Post #1138 » by **syntax** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 5:52 am

Remember Embiid going 0-12 in the 2nd half?

How about 8 turnovers in game 7.

Let's not act like Embiid didn't play his part in losing to the Hawks.

Murray_17 · Post #1139 » by **Murray_17** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:00 am

syntax wrote:Remember Embiid going 0-12 in the 2nd half?

How about 8 turnovers in game 7.

Let's not act like Embiid didn't play his part in losing to the Hawks.

This has been adressed like 20 times already.

It's obvious Embiid is gonna have a lot of turnovers when he has to start creating his own offense from the 3 point line or iso directly from that point on or with his back to the basket.

Specially if he can be easily doubled because Ben is stationed on the dunker spot.

syntax · Post #1140 » by **syntax** » Tue Jun 22, 2021 6:06 am

Murray_17 wrote:
syntax wrote:Remember Embiid going 0-12 in the 2nd half?

How about 8 turnovers in game 7.

Let's not act like Embiid didn't play his part in losing to the Hawks.

This has been adressed like 20 times already.

It's obvious Embiid is gonna have a lot of turnovers when he has to start creating his own offense from the 3 point line or iso directly from that point on or with his back to the basket.

Specially if he can be easily doubled because Ben is stationed on the dunker spot.

If he's doubled find the open man. Stop giving his terrible passing out of double teams a free pass.