MoeGreene wrote:Cheers to that. I feel your pain going back to the draft where I wanted Brandon Ingram. My exact quote was "get the guy who can shoot".
What do we do about it now...its tough and yes gets tougher everyday. I used to entertain ideas about "fair market value" with certain players, but Ben has fallen behind each of them, like Booker, and is not even close to others like Lillard.
We are looking at others in Tier 1a or Tier 2 now to accommodate Ben's lack of growth. Someone like CJ , or maybe just below him, like Brogdon probably would be around fair market now. Unfortunately, I don't think Portland nor Indiana would agree with that.
Do you agree?
76ciology wrote:MoeGreene wrote:That's fine. But happy we agree that its entering time to move on.
Ive already decided to moved on a long time ago.
It’s just that it’s tough to get a good return.
And as time passes by that window gets smaller.
People say I hate Ben because we didnt draft Ingram.
If there’s a gun in my head, i’ll tell you it’s not that. I dont even follow that much about Ingram after the 2016 draft.
I’ve rooted for guys that didn’t do well before. Namely, Okafor and Evan Turner. The ironic thing is, I like perimeter play. AI was the reason I was a sixers fan. My favorite player right now is Steph. And yes, I try to shoot those shots from the logo, whenever I play in real life
I’m not that old, but I’ve also seen an abundance of talent. I’d even tell you right now that everyone is replaceable, including Embiid. So I hope everyone stays open on who stays or who leaves. No favoritism.
Ben is a good fit with Biid. He’s just far from the perfect fit. Ben’s defense and what he brings on transition, empowers Embiid. But I’d rather have a REAL role player like Draymond Green to play his role. Not someone who i’ve slotted to be the second best player on my team. While I’d prefer the second best player on my team can be my 1B, a guy who can also carry my team’s offense and also allows Embiid to do his load management. Man, Harden was the perfect fit.
Then I do think there’s a big disparity between his perceived value among people. I’ve even tried some social experiment with this by mentioning guys like Julius Randle to be traded for him due to my fascination of how people values Ben. That said, I do think we can get more value than what his REAL fair value is. Yeah, he’s a DPOY and All NBA player. *wink wink*
The problem is the overall trend. He’s not improving. It means this could maybe be a “musical chair” scenario that you may end up not having a chair to sit on when the music stops.
If I have to trade him, I’d do it for a big time player like Harden. If Ben won’t be enough, I’ll add whoever young guys and picks we can offer.
If not, I’d trade Ben for someone who may not have a higher value than him right now but have a higher projected value in the future than him. Someone like Anthony Edwards.
If I’m going for someone like CJ and Brogdon, I’d like to get atleast a couple of picks.
On the last two scenarios, my intent is for me to still get that window for a big time player. Which should be my goal on any player movement. Settling for guys like Brogdon and CJ is also a form of defeat but with a different flavor.
There’s never been a time in history when we look back and say that the people who were censoring free speech were the good guys.
