Roy The Natural wrote: ProcessDoctor wrote:
Roy The Natural wrote:
My thought was CJ+Covington+picks with Nurk going to a 3rd team like Boston for some more assets. I was told the gap couldn't be bridged though.
But I feel like in a vacuum Covington+CJ+Nurk+picks has to be in the vicinity of Ben Simmons value wise. It just sort of depends on what Nurk can bring in IMO.
Just a theoretical, but in reality, I can’t see Morey taking that deal. It would be Lillard or bust. Maybe you feel the same way, but it all depends on what Dame and the Portland FO see.
Technically it depends on what both front offices see. It's not like the onus is only on the Blazers here. Neither Simmons nor Lillard have any leverage given their contracts.
Yea... I get that. I think there's a major impasse here. I don't think the Blazers would entertain Simmons and marginal stuff for Lillard. And I don't think that the 76ers would entertain CJ and marginal stuff for Simmons.
I don't really think guys like Maxey, Milton, and Thybulle are gonna get you over that bridge. I think a 3rd team would need to be involved, a 3rd team that's giving Portland a high upside, progressing rookie contract player.
The only way a Simmons-Lillard based swap works is if somebody in Portland really loves Simmons. During the Harden talks, there were a lot of reports about how polarizing Ben’s value is around the league. Some league execs think he is an all-nba player, and others think his impact on the game is overrated. We know what Dame’s value is. It’s a little more than Harden’s considering he is a year or two younger, better leader, longer contract, and comparable impact.
If they are similar to Houston and want mostly picks, and players on rookie contacts, the Sixers don’t have premium assets in that range. If they are looking for a new centerpiece yet to hit his prime, and they believe Ben is that player, then it makes sense.
When it comes to defense and transition play, Ben is truly elite. However, constructing an offense where he is an impactful halfcourt player isn’t easy. If I were Portland, I wouldn’t do it. Building around Ben just seems like it is really difficult because he has point guard skills but isn’t a threat to score from the perimeter. Fortunately, we have Joel to coverup a lot of Ben’s weaknesses. However, if a coach, like Doc Rivers, really believes in Ben, then it doesn’t matter what the fans on forums think, they will go get him. Overall, I don’t know that any of us could guess Ben’s value to each team’s front office.