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76ciology wrote:

youngcrev wrote:

51X3RF4N wrote:So the trade becomes official on December 8th, and then the Sixers have to wait to move either Green or Ferguson in other package deals for 19 days or something like that.

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You could just find something else in the meantime and combine the deals, which feels more advantageous.

How about Maxey?

I don't know for sure, but I don't see why not considering the current deal in place involves draft picks. I don't imagine they'd be dealing him though.

Kings Receive:
Danny Green
Shake Milton
7M cap relief from the Al Horford trade

Reason:
Kings backcourt is set with Fox and Haliburton.
Kobble even said it’s the best backcourt in the league.

They had to re-sign Bogdanovic. Given the thought process with the bogdanovic trade, they’re open to get a cheaper alternative for bogdanonic. Shake Milton can provide it for them.

Kings also get a $15M expiring with Danny Green’s contract and a extra 7M to free up their cap space.

Sixers Receive:
Buddy Hield

Seth Curry
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
Ben Simmons
Joel Embiid

Fire power.

76ciology wrote:Kings Receive:
Danny Green
Shake Milton
7M cap relief from the Al Horford trade

Reason:
Kings backcourt is set with Fox and Haliburton.
Kobble even said it’s the best backcourt in the league.

They had to re-sign Bogdanovic. Given the thought process with the bogdanovic trade, they’re open to get a cheaper alternative for bogdanonic. Shake Milton can provide it for them.

Kings also get a $15M expiring with Danny Green’s contract and a extra 7M to free up their cap space.

Sixers Receive:
Buddy Hield

Seth Curry
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
Ben Simmons
Joel Embiid

Fire power.

Rockets Receive:
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
2021 Sixers 1st Rounder
2023 Sixers 1st Rounder

Sixers Receive:
James Harden
Eric Gordon

I think that offer can be right there with what the Nets offer. Both guys can shoot, unlike Dinwiddie. Both guys are durable, unlike LeVert.

Sixers can then form their big 3 of Biid, Ben and Beard.

Buddy Hield is a negative value contract IMO. Outside of Horford/minor asset model that we originally were discussing, I've got no interest.

And that offer for Harden ain't close

I don't want Hields contract at all. For Horford? Ok. Now? No, thanks.

76ciology wrote:

76ciology wrote:Kings Receive:
Danny Green
Shake Milton
7M cap relief from the Al Horford trade

Reason:
Kings backcourt is set with Fox and Haliburton.
Kobble even said it’s the best backcourt in the league.

They had to re-sign Bogdanovic. Given the thought process with the bogdanovic trade, they’re open to get a cheaper alternative for bogdanonic. Shake Milton can provide it for them.

Kings also get a $15M expiring with Danny Green’s contract and a extra 7M to free up their cap space.

Sixers Receive:
Buddy Hield

Seth Curry
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
Ben Simmons
Joel Embiid

Fire power.

Rockets Receive:
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
2021 Sixers 1st Rounder
2023 Sixers 1st Rounder

Sixers Receive:
James Harden
Eric Gordon

I think that offer can be right there with what the Nets offer. Both guys can shoot, unlike Dinwiddie. Both guys are durable, unlike LeVert.

Sixers can then form their big 3 of Biid, Ben and Beard.

Thats 2 negative contracts and 2 likely low 1sts for Harden

76ciology wrote:Kings Receive:
Danny Green
Shake Milton
7M cap relief from the Al Horford trade

Reason:
Kings backcourt is set with Fox and Haliburton.
Kobble even said it’s the best backcourt in the league.

They had to re-sign Bogdanovic. Given the thought process with the bogdanovic trade, they’re open to get a cheaper alternative for bogdanonic. Shake Milton can provide it for them.

Kings also get a $15M expiring with Danny Green’s contract and a extra 7M to free up their cap space.

Sixers Receive:
Buddy Hield

Seth Curry
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
Ben Simmons
Joel Embiid

Fire power.

Wizards Receive:
Buddy Hield
Tobias Harris
2021 1st Rounder

Why for the Wizards:
Wall
Hield
Tobias
Hachimura
Baynes?

Wall got surrounded with 2 shooters who can average 20ppg

Sixers Receive:
Bradley Beal
Thomas Bryant
Ish Smith
$15M in cap space

Sixers got Beal and $15M cap relief

I don't see the Kings or the Rockets accepting those deals. However if they did (assuming we include Thybulle), the resulting Rockets team isn't bad:

PG Westbrook | Thybulle
SG Hield | McLemore
SF Tucker | House
PF Harris | KMart
CE FA??? | Green

If they just sign a guy like Baynes or Noel to start at Center that could be a 50 win team that makes the playoffs and has a chance to win a round. I'm sure that would suit Tilman just fine.

No chance any of those happen we literally can’t trade green until 20 days AFTER December 8th. That’s into the season

With the ridiculou re-signing of Bertans combined with the drafting of Deni Avdija, I'd be on the phone with the Wizards regarding Troy Brown.

Troy Brown

for

Shake Milton and Furkan Korkmaz

Kobblehead wrote:With the ridiculous re-signing of Bertans combined with the drafting of Deni Avdija, I'd be on the phone with the Wizards regarding Troy Brown.

Troy Brown

for

Shake Milton and Furkan Korkmaz

Yes to that trade. Or expand it to Harris, Scott, Smith, Milton, and Korkmaz for Brown, Hachimura, and Wall.

Sportfan73 wrote:No chance any of those happen we literally can’t trade green until 20 days AFTER December 8th. That’s into the season

Makes sense.

Hardens value will quickly decline 20 days after December 8th and onwards. Before that, we need to atleast Ben to get him. After that, we can be creative with Danny Green’s expiring and some assets.

What about Hield and Barnes for Harris and Barnes?

LeTimmAy wrote:What about Hield and Barnes for Harris and Barnes?

You mean Danny Green?

Hield and Harris is a wash. Green for Barnes is not good for us salary wise

More tradeable contracts and shooting compared to Harris

LeTimmAy wrote:What about Hield and Barnes for Harris and Barnes?

Harris and Green for Hield and Barnes? No thanks. Rather have Green than Hield.

If the Kings want Harris for Barnes? I'll drive Tobias to the airport. Barnes is much cheaper and more likely to know his role and fill it successfully here than Tobias is.

the_process wrote:

LeTimmAy wrote:What about Hield and Barnes for Harris and Barnes?

Harris and Green for Hield and Barnes? No thanks. Rather have Green than Hield.

If the Kings want Harris for Barnes? I'll drive Tobias to the airport. Barnes is much cheaper and more likely to know his role and fill it successfully here than Tobias is.

Actually Harris is better than Hield or Barnes.

Harris would average like 22 a game with good percentages with the Kings where he can just pad his stats.

Barnes, he can’t even crack 15 with good percentages. He’d be like SF version of JRich.

You’d say it’s not all about scoring, defensively all should have equal value while you may even say Tobi is better on defense than all 3.

I want something bigger.

But a line-up of..

Seth
Hield
Ben
Tobi
Biid

Probably has the same firepower on offense with the run it back team. Seth with Jj’s production and Hield with Jimmy’s.

76ciology wrote:

the_process wrote:

LeTimmAy wrote:What about Hield and Barnes for Harris and Barnes?

Harris and Green for Hield and Barnes? No thanks. Rather have Green than Hield.

If the Kings want Harris for Barnes? I'll drive Tobias to the airport. Barnes is much cheaper and more likely to know his role and fill it successfully here than Tobias is.

Actually Harris is better than Hield or Barnes.

Harris would average like 22 a game with good percentages with the Kings where he can just pad his stats.

Barnes, he can’t even crack 15 with good percentages. He’d be like SF version of JRich.

You’d say it’s not all about scoring, defensively all should have equal value while you may even say Tobi is better on defense than all 3.

Barnes is a better defender than Tobi. And he's played the role of 5th option take open 3's guy. Whereas Tobias consistently takes too many dribbles and ends up in bad places.