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Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2081 » by Sixerscan » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:49 pm

Arsenal wrote:1) You can't combine trade exceptions with anything

2) We CAN'T do a sign and trade because our team salary is way too high. All this talk about Bogdan is totally useless. We can't get him even if we wanted him.

1) Yes

2) It's not impossible especially with Morey but it's very unlikely we could get enough under the hard cap and still be able to give Bogdon the salary he probably wants.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2082 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:53 pm

Feeling more and more like an Austin Rivers signing is imminent.

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2083 » by Sportfan73 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:57 pm

Sixerscan wrote:
Arsenal wrote:1) You can't combine trade exceptions with anything

2) We CAN'T do a sign and trade because our team salary is way too high. All this talk about Bogdan is totally useless. We can't get him even if we wanted him.

1) Yes

2) It's not impossible especially with Morey but it's very unlikely we could get enough under the hard cap and still be able to give Bogdon the salary he probably wants.

Unless Tobias is going out
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2084 » by Sixerscan » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:58 pm

Sportfan73 wrote:
Sixerscan wrote:
Arsenal wrote:1) You can't combine trade exceptions with anything

2) We CAN'T do a sign and trade because our team salary is way too high. All this talk about Bogdan is totally useless. We can't get him even if we wanted him.

1) Yes

2) It's not impossible especially with Morey but it's very unlikely we could get enough under the hard cap and still be able to give Bogdon the salary he probably wants.

Unless Tobias is going out

I would file that under "very unlikely"
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2085 » by youngcrev » Sat Nov 21, 2020 10:59 pm

Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2086 » by Kobblehead » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:12 pm

youngcrev wrote:Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).

What's the sales pitch for bringing Fournier in as a key piece for the Sixers?
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2087 » by ankle420breaker » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:22 pm

Elfrid back to NY. PG well getting shallow.

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Post#2088 » by ExplosionsInDaSky » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:27 pm

Shabazz Napier, Matthew Dellavedova if we're looking merely at a Neto replacement. Jeff Teague would be cool too.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2089 » by youngcrev » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:46 pm

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).

What's the sales pitch for bringing Fournier in as a key piece for the Sixers?


He'd probably be the best on ball, perimeter playmaker on the team. Maybe the best movement shooter as well. Passable defender. Probably would be the 4th best player on the team and fits well.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2090 » by LloydFree » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:48 pm

youngcrev wrote:Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).

Orlando is going to take that trash for Fournier. That guy has value. He's at least as good as Bogdonovich, so I guarantee teams would bid for him.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2091 » by freshie2 » Sat Nov 21, 2020 11:58 pm

ankle420breaker wrote:Elfrid back to NY. PG well getting shallow.

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Scott to NYK for Smith or Frank...PG addressed
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2092 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:02 am

youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).

What's the sales pitch for bringing Fournier in as a key piece for the Sixers?


He'd probably be the best on ball, perimeter playmaker on the team. Maybe the best movement shooter as well. Passable defender. Probably would be the 4th best player on the team and fits well.

He can shoot well and pass a little bit, but his ability to create off the dribble is pretty overstated IMO. And he's definitely deficient as a defender, from what I can see.

I just think the more guys like Evan Fournier and Tobias Harris you feature in your offense, the less serious you are about actually competing for a title.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2093 » by youngcrev » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:04 am

LloydFree wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).

Orlando is going to take that trash for Fournier. That guy has value. He's at least as good as Bogdonovich, so I guarantee teams would bid for him.


Moreso wondering what type of draft capitol it would take. He did opt into that deal, so presumably he didn't think he was getting that much on the open market, so I'm not sure he's that valuable.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2094 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:08 am

freshie2 wrote:Scott to NYK for Smith or Frank...PG addressed

Frank Ntilikina is not far away from being a pretty good contributor. He's already an excellent defender and a good free throw shooter. He's an okay secondary distributor.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2095 » by youngcrev » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:10 am

Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:What's the sales pitch for bringing Fournier in as a key piece for the Sixers?


He'd probably be the best on ball, perimeter playmaker on the team. Maybe the best movement shooter as well. Passable defender. Probably would be the 4th best player on the team and fits well.

He can shoot well and pass a little bit, but his ability to create off the dribble is pretty overstated IMO. And he's definitely deficient as a defender, from what I can see.

I just think the more guys like Evan Fournier and Tobias Harris you feature in your offense, the less serious you are about actually competing for a title.


I'd prefer to have a legit primary perimeter threat that can be a #1 option and score off the bounce at a high level... But that ain't in the cards.

Fournier's combination of on and off ball prowess would be helpful. To me it's a matter of what the price tag is. I think he'd be a nice piece of the puzzle on a team with Embiid/Simmons as the focal points.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2096 » by Kobblehead » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:32 am

I don't see the appeal. Having Harris/Fournier in key roles for your team just dilutes you as a contender. These guys are fake solutions with regular season skillsets.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2097 » by Sportfan73 » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:39 am

It’s time to bite the bullet on Matisse and call Chicago on Harris, thybulle, smith, and a first for Lavine and porter
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2098 » by eyeatoma » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:51 am

Boston just got Tristan Thompson

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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2099 » by ckchen » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:55 am

youngcrev wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:
youngcrev wrote:Just saw a report that Fournier wants a trade. If we pulled that into the OKC deal, I think we could do something like Zhaire and a re-routed Ferguson for him and have it be a legal deal. Not sure what type of draft capital would be needed (saves the Magic about 10M immediately).

What's the sales pitch for bringing Fournier in as a key piece for the Sixers?


He'd probably be the best on ball, perimeter playmaker on the team. Maybe the best movement shooter as well. Passable defender. Probably would be the 4th best player on the team and fits well.


You realize that Fournier makes $17M? So even if you can make this a legal trade you're increasing salaries over what were paying with Horford on the roster even further into Luxury Tax space. I agree Fournier has some value but not enough to not only pay the higher luxury tax but also put us into the apron and all of the salary cap and trade restrictions that come with it.
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Re: Fixing the Mess Pt. 2 Sixers Offseason 

Post#2100 » by eyeatoma » Sun Nov 22, 2020 12:57 am

KCP returns. The rich get richer.

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