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Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Thu Apr 22, 2021 11:03 pm
by DCasey91
76ciology wrote:I think eventually Morey packages Maxey, Reed and Milton picks (with one of Ben or Tobi) for a big star. Something like the package he sent for Harden (picks, jeremy lamb and kevin martin). Just have to groom those three guys. If we wont be able to trade them, might as well make them productive to help us win.
I just dont see Morey’s style building something like the Spurs did with a collective group of good players playing good chemistry. It rarely works anyway.
I see our current team as a transition team and far from the final product he envisions.
Nobody can predict the future so we both can be wrong.
Spurs had great players, Tim Duncan, Parker, Manu
You’re contending for a heck of long time with that core they compliment each other so well.
We have Embiid just pair him up with the correct players got to stop stuffing around.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 10:52 am
by 76ciology
DCasey91 wrote:76ciology wrote:I think eventually Morey packages Maxey, Reed and Milton picks (with one of Ben or Tobi) for a big star. Something like the package he sent for Harden (picks, jeremy lamb and kevin martin). Just have to groom those three guys. If we wont be able to trade them, might as well make them productive to help us win.
I just dont see Morey’s style building something like the Spurs did with a collective group of good players playing good chemistry. It rarely works anyway.
I see our current team as a transition team and far from the final product he envisions.
Nobody can predict the future so we both can be wrong.
Spurs had great players, Tim Duncan, Parker, Manu
You’re contending for a heck of long time with that core they compliment each other so well.
We have Embiid just pair him up with the correct players got to stop stuffing around.
Im open to all possibilities.
But I dont think Morey would prefer a “spurs” built unless he is left with no choice IMO. He seems to prefer the “lakers” model of having two all time great players to lead a team. If my memory serves me right, he talked about this on a podcast with woj back then.
For the mean time, I still see him coming up with a good package on the side and waiting for a right deal to strike (steph? Giannis? Kawhi?).
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:30 am
by Arsenal
76ciology wrote:DCasey91 wrote:76ciology wrote:I think eventually Morey packages Maxey, Reed and Milton picks (with one of Ben or Tobi) for a big star. Something like the package he sent for Harden (picks, jeremy lamb and kevin martin). Just have to groom those three guys. If we wont be able to trade them, might as well make them productive to help us win.
I just dont see Morey’s style building something like the Spurs did with a collective group of good players playing good chemistry. It rarely works anyway.
I see our current team as a transition team and far from the final product he envisions.
Nobody can predict the future so we both can be wrong.
Spurs had great players, Tim Duncan, Parker, Manu
You’re contending for a heck of long time with that core they compliment each other so well.
We have Embiid just pair him up with the correct players got to stop stuffing around.
Im open to all possibilities.
But I dont think Morey would prefer a “spurs” built unless he is left with no choice IMO. He seems to prefer the “lakers” model of having two all time great players to lead a team. If my memory serves me right, he talked about this on a podcast with woj back then.
For the mean time, I still see him coming up with a good package on the side and waiting for a right deal to strike (steph? Giannis? Kawhi?).
Daryl Morey doesn't "prefer" anything except winning. Common misconception.
If he thinks Spurs model gives us the best chance to win titles, he'll do that.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:32 am
by Arsenal
We're similar to the Spurs model right now.
1 All-Time Great Superstar
2 Quasi-stars
Good depth
If things go well this year, Morey will have no problem sticking with this plan.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 11:52 am
by DCasey91
Arsenal wrote:We're similar to the Spurs model right now.
1 All-Time Great Superstar
2 Quasi-stars
Good depth
If things go well this year, Morey will have no problem sticking with this plan.
Yeah that’s the route I’m thinking we are going to take, the superstars as far as I can tell have been moved along for the time being (Kawhi is a maybe I guess in theory, Curry/Giannis/ etc I think are non options for trades). Only chance to hit is in the draft (Hint hint Green lol I’m all in on him).
As long as the second option fits perfectly with Embiid we should be right there for true contention imo
CJ should def be in the wheelhouse. Consistently scores well in a playoff environment (outperformed Lillard some games/stretches).
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 2:47 pm
by elchengue20
The problem is the Spurs had perfect fit. They played some of the most perfect team ball the league has ever seen.
We have some big question marks, specially in the halfcourt offense.
Also, Manu and Parker had a killer instinct that probably you don't have in Ben and Tobias. They were really underated players.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 3:13 pm
by 76ciology
Arsenal wrote:76ciology wrote:DCasey91 wrote:
Spurs had great players, Tim Duncan, Parker, Manu
You’re contending for a heck of long time with that core they compliment each other so well.
We have Embiid just pair him up with the correct players got to stop stuffing around.
Im open to all possibilities.
But I dont think Morey would prefer a “spurs” built unless he is left with no choice IMO. He seems to prefer the “lakers” model of having two all time great players to lead a team. If my memory serves me right, he talked about this on a podcast with woj back then.
For the mean time, I still see him coming up with a good package on the side and waiting for a right deal to strike (steph? Giannis? Kawhi?).
Daryl Morey doesn't "prefer" anything except winning. Common misconception.
If he thinks Spurs model gives us the best chance to win titles, he'll do that.
Again, its a possibility.
But years of sample size say he prefers building around two all time great players
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 6:53 pm
by TTP
76ciology wrote:Arsenal wrote:76ciology wrote:
Im open to all possibilities.
But I dont think Morey would prefer a “spurs” built unless he is left with no choice IMO. He seems to prefer the “lakers” model of having two all time great players to lead a team. If my memory serves me right, he talked about this on a podcast with woj back then.
For the mean time, I still see him coming up with a good package on the side and waiting for a right deal to strike (steph? Giannis? Kawhi?).
Daryl Morey doesn't "prefer" anything except winning. Common misconception.
If he thinks Spurs model gives us the best chance to win titles, he'll do that.
Again, its a possibility.
But years of sample size say he prefers building around two all time great players
Do you really think if he had the chance to have 3, he'd turn it down?
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Fri Apr 23, 2021 9:04 pm
by 76ciology
TTP wrote:76ciology wrote:Arsenal wrote:
Daryl Morey doesn't "prefer" anything except winning. Common misconception.
If he thinks Spurs model gives us the best chance to win titles, he'll do that.
Again, its a possibility.
But years of sample size say he prefers building around two all time great players
Do you really think if he had the chance to have 3, he'd turn it down?
3? Morey love jacking up those 3s.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 2:17 pm
by rzzzzz
76ciology wrote:3? Morey love jacking up those 3s.
If Maxey can keep them outside shots off the dribble dropping, will Doc love Maxey jacking up those 3s anytime soon? Or is there too much other stuff still on the learning curve to let him off the leash in this year’s playoffs?
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:41 pm
by 76ciology
rzzzzz wrote:76ciology wrote:3? Morey love jacking up those 3s.
If Maxey can keep them outside shots off the dribble dropping, will Doc love Maxey jacking up those 3s anytime soon? Or is there too much other stuff still on the learning curve to let him off the leash in this year’s playoffs?
Yes both morey and doc will if Maxey “keep those outside shots off the dribble dropping”.
I find that the FO puts a lot of value on players who can generate extra possessions (deflections) and players with high points per shot.
So we dont really care if you take those mid range as long as you make them at a high clip.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:25 pm
by TTP
rzzzzz wrote:76ciology wrote:3? Morey love jacking up those 3s.
If Maxey can keep them outside shots off the dribble dropping, will Doc love Maxey jacking up those 3s anytime soon? Or is there too much other stuff still on the learning curve to let him off the leash in this year’s playoffs?
No chance Maxey is playing meaningful minutes in the playoffs outside of garbage time. We've been awful with him on the floor this year. His outside shots haven't even been dropping lately - he's 4-22 from 3 this month.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 3:18 am
by rzzzzz
TTP wrote:No chance Maxey is playing meaningful minutes in the playoffs outside of garbage time. We've been awful with him on the floor this year. His outside shots haven't even been dropping lately - he's 4-22 from 3 this month.
A week later we’ve had Doc’s encouraging words. More floor time and now tonight’s start. An opportunity he made the most of.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 3:45 am
by the_process
Might have only been against DET, but Maxey getting to line 7 times tonight (and making 6) is extremely promising progress.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 6:23 am
by 76ciology
After being sat out for a handful of games. This kid bounced back into a better shooter and doing a better job getting to the line? He’s done more player development in a month than Ben did for 4 years
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 1:11 pm
by rzzzzz
76ciology wrote:After being sat out for a handful of games. This kid bounced back into a better shooter and doing a better job getting to the line? He’s done more player development in a month than Ben did for 4 years
I think that this may be the first off season where the new coaching staff can help him develop an effective close range game. But I fear he will never be comfortable shooting the long jumper with the left hand.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 1:37 pm
by Kobblehead
In 7 starts this season, Maxey is averaging 17 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.6 assists.
He's only 20 so he obviously lacks winning play savviness, but he's still our best perimeter talent. At this point, it's a must that he play a 20 minute per game role in the playoffs. We have to give ourselves a chance to score in the halfcourt against good teams.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 4:05 pm
by 76ciology
Kobblehead wrote:In 7 starts this season, Maxey is averaging 17 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.6 assists.
He's only 20 so he obviously lacks winning play savviness, but he's still our best perimeter talent. At this point, it's a must that he play a 20 minute per game role in the playoffs. We have to give ourselves a chance to score in the halfcourt against good teams.
Maybe make him the first guy off the bench to sub Seth. Then let Seth play with Milton, both seems to play well together.
GHill as primary sub for either Ben or Tobi.
Maxey is like a crypto currency with how volatile he is. Im FOMO’ing the maxey token right now
If maxey is Doge, Kobble would be Elon.
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 4:28 pm
by Stanford
76ciology wrote:Kobblehead wrote:In 7 starts this season, Maxey is averaging 17 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.6 assists.
He's only 20 so he obviously lacks winning play savviness, but he's still our best perimeter talent. At this point, it's a must that he play a 20 minute per game role in the playoffs. We have to give ourselves a chance to score in the halfcourt against good teams.
Maybe make him the first guy off the bench to sub Seth. Then let Seth play with Milton, both seems to play well together.
GHill as primary sub for either Ben or Tobi.
Maxey is like a crypto currency with how volatile he is. Im FOMO’ing the maxey token right now
If maxey is Doge, Kobble would be Elon.
And playoff basketball is SNL
Re: Welcome Tyrese Maxey!
Posted: Sun May 9, 2021 5:41 pm
by 76ciology
Stanford wrote:76ciology wrote:Kobblehead wrote:In 7 starts this season, Maxey is averaging 17 points, 3.9 rebounds, 3.6 assists.
He's only 20 so he obviously lacks winning play savviness, but he's still our best perimeter talent. At this point, it's a must that he play a 20 minute per game role in the playoffs. We have to give ourselves a chance to score in the halfcourt against good teams.
Maybe make him the first guy off the bench to sub Seth. Then let Seth play with Milton, both seems to play well together.
GHill as primary sub for either Ben or Tobi.
Maxey is like a crypto currency with how volatile he is. Im FOMO’ing the maxey token right now
If maxey is Doge, Kobble would be Elon.
And playoff basketball is SNL
It’s gonna pop the bubble