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G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21

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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#241 » by Black Mage » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:58 am

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Iverson Armband wrote:Tell me, what did those great units do in the playoffs?


Yeah im tired of hearing about that run.lol


I mean we looked absolutely dominant to start the year. COVID strikes and blows up our team, and now all the negative dudes come out with their usual nonsense. That's more tiring than anything else.


Wasn't it Joel and Shake who lead the comeback against Raptors while Ben sat? Pretty sure there was a game they saved us in with Ben off the court for nearly 10 minutes or something.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#242 » by BigSleep333 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 2:59 am

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No, I'd re-evaluate things then like any intelligent person would, but there's literally no reason to force the move early if you don't need to. I can tell you that if I'm Morey though, I'm not making franchise altering moves as overreactions to COVID striking.


i dont know who overreacts to a couple of games? i would have traded ben with the 7-1 record too. harden>simmons. sometimes its as simple as that.


I'm sure Morey thinks the situation is far from simple and from everything reported, the Rockets are asking for more than just Simmons.


sure they are asking for more, but what realistic offers are up? didnt see one thats better than simmons
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#243 » by Sixersftw » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:00 am

We gotta make a move Jo is a top 5 player this year. We gotta strike now.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#244 » by 6ers83 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:01 am

Sixersftw wrote:We gotta make a move Jo is a top 5 player this year. We gotta strike now.


Yep

Ben is just average

Jo needs help
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#245 » by TTP » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:02 am

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i dont know who overreacts to a couple of games? i would have traded ben with the 7-1 record too. harden>simmons. sometimes its as simple as that.


I'm sure Morey thinks the situation is far from simple and from everything reported, the Rockets are asking for more than just Simmons.


sure they are asking for more, but what realistic offers are up? didnt see one thats better than simmons


Why don't you try asking Rafael Stone? I'm pretty sure he'd have a better idea than either of us.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#246 » by Skates » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:05 am

It doesn’t need to be Simmons and a bunch more for Harden. Simmons to Chicago or Minnesota will get you a couple pretty players back, keep the rest of our assets and really give Simmons a better fit on those teams.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#247 » by sodmoraes » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:08 am

If i ever hear someone saying again that we should build the team around Bum Simmons i will bitchslap the mfer! Fake ass all star. 5 points against a team of scrubs. Is that the guy who we want to be our star? Embiid is a true all star, get Harden!

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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#248 » by Iverson Armband » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:08 am

Simmons should be on the block, period.

Forget Harden if Houston is going to continue to be blockheaded. There are a bunch of players I’d trade Simmons for at this point.

You simply can’t afford to waste another second of Embiid.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#249 » by Black Mage » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:09 am

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I think in the real world, if Harden is close to being moved to another team, the Rockets are going to check in with Morey to see if he can top the offer before they make the move.


and if you would be morey, you would say "nah, we wanna see how plan a goes"?


No, I'd re-evaluate things then like any intelligent person would, but there's literally no reason to force the move early if you don't need to. I can tell you that if I'm Morey though, I'm not making franchise altering moves as overreactions to COVID striking.


This isn't Covid striking. This is your most valuable player looking around at the supposed other "superstar" on his team giving him 5 points of help against an opponent running 8 deep.

You can get away with that when your scoring player is a guard or a winger who can create, but when it's a center he NEEDS a guard or a wing that can make his life easier.

Right now, if I'm Embiid, I'm fuming over Ben being a complete zero on offense. 12 assists is nice, but great point guards get you 10 assists while scoring 20 or more. If Ben got even his average tonight we win this in a walk and Embiid knows it.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#250 » by Black Mage » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:10 am

Stanford wrote:For the love of God, don't waste his prime


We will, it's the totally Philly thing for us to do.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#251 » by sodmoraes » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:12 am

I would trade him for Lavine, dead serious( i know the contracts dont match). His value is falling by the day . We are wasting Embiid's prime for a primadona that is too good to shoot the ball.
Iverson Armband wrote:Simmons should be on the block, period.

Forget Harden if Houston is going to continue to be blockheaded. There are a bunch of players I’d trade Simmons for at this point.

You simply can’t afford to waste another second of Embiid.


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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#252 » by Skates » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:12 am

Guys hit some tough shots over Maxey and sometimes he looked like a rookie on D, but the kid doesn’t turn the ball over, has defensive potential, tons of assists, scores and will develop that three. He is the PG for this team.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#253 » by Black Mage » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:13 am

At this point the I'd rather us make Maxey untouchable than Ben Simmons. I have infinitely more faith that this kid is going to develop into a monster than I do in Ben making the jump.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#254 » by Stanford » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:15 am

BigSleep333 wrote:
Stanford wrote:For the love of God, don't waste his prime


3 years left :-?


Good! So don't waste it.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#255 » by TylersLakers » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:16 am

Did Danny Green really shoot 25 shots and play 50 minutes? :rofl:
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#256 » by Stanford » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:17 am

TylersLakers wrote:Did Danny Green really shoot 25 shots and play 50 minutes? :rofl:


Who else would you have taking shots in that lineup?
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#257 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:27 am

Yeah it's over. The Ben Simmons sham is over. This was the perfect opportunity for him to get 20-25 easy points. He came up small. Please put someone around Joel who can actually support him as a player. Don't make this like Iverson again. We are wasting the prime of the best big man in the game and at present an MVP candidate, and a top 5 player easily. It should be clear as day to Morey that this needs to be done. I wonder if the hold up is Maxey. He is untouchable at this point. He'll be a 20-22 ppg scorer in a couple of years, and he is absolutely vital to this team. We got a boon from the basketball gods for all the **** we dealt with during the Fultz saga and Colangelo era. Don't F this up!
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#258 » by Black Mage » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:31 am

Read on Twitter


Tweet was made AFTER Ben fouled out.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#259 » by Black Mage » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:35 am

eyeatoma wrote:Yeah it's over. Ben Simmons sham is over. This was the perfect opportunity for him to get 20-25 easy points. He came up small. Please put someone around Joel who can actually support him as a player. Don't make this like Iverson again. We are wasting the prime of the best big man in the game and at present an MVP candidate, and a top 5 player easily. It should be clear as day to Morey that this needs to be done. I wonder if the hold up is Maxey. He is untouchable at this point. He'll be a 20-22 ppg scorer in a couple of years, and he is absolutely vital to this team. We got a boon from the basketball gods for all the **** we dealt with during the Fultz saga and Colangelo era. Don't F this up!


I'd rather give u 3 1st round picks than give up Maxey.
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Re: G12: Heat @ Sixers 7:00pm ET 01/12/21 

Post#260 » by eyeatoma » Wed Jan 13, 2021 3:36 am

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eyeatoma wrote:Yeah it's over. Ben Simmons sham is over. This was the perfect opportunity for him to get 20-25 easy points. He came up small. Please put someone around Joel who can actually support him as a player. Don't make this like Iverson again. We are wasting the prime of the best big man in the game and at present an MVP candidate, and a top 5 player easily. It should be clear as day to Morey that this needs to be done. I wonder if the hold up is Maxey. He is untouchable at this point. He'll be a 20-22 ppg scorer in a couple of years, and he is absolutely vital to this team. We got a boon from the basketball gods for all the **** we dealt with during the Fultz saga and Colangelo era. Don't F this up!


I'd rather give u 3 1st round picks than give up Maxey.


Same! Agreed a 100%

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