DCasey91 wrote: ankle420breaker wrote:
eyeatoma wrote:Now that the dust has settled is anyone worried about Ben and Thybulle having attitudes given that they were on the trade block? Ben especially might feel slighted. The reports are that he's relieved, but he might actually be pissed. Better hope that this doesn't create a rift with the organization. Doesn't this actually increase the odds of him getting traded given that Morey originally came out saying we're not trading Ben, and then ofcourse yesterday happens? Not a good look and I feel like damage control can only go so far. What are people's thoughts on this?
We weren't actively dangling him and pursuing Simmons trades. I think Ben is able to wrap his head around being involved in a scenario where a superstar hits the market and outwardly conveys his interest in coming to Philadelphia.
This isn't the regime of yesteryear. Doc and Daryl have gone on record saying they're content with the current roster and in the end weren't willing to take such a massive swing to pay their price. I don't foresee any lingering drama as we collectively move on.
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After all this time pandering to every need under the sun for Ben it hasn’t work out at all. I believe Morey was 100% keen on the deal but management is once again has always been enamored by a hugely flawed player.
He needs to recognize the fact the way he plays hurts the team especially in the playoffs.
The ideal scenario for Ben is a literal fantasy 2k sim to get all the players that fit with him “perfectly.”
And once again your not winning with Ben as your 2nd go to option
Elite 3rd best player sure. But that is his value right now
Teams certainly don’t build around their 3rd best that’s for sure.
I’d rather cater to the actual player that’s a legit MVP/DPOY canidtate every year in his prime as long as he’s healthy which he most certainly is.
Fwiw if I was Thybulle I’d keep my head down and work my ass off to be a legit NBA rotation player before saying anything. But that’s just me I guess
Once side of the coin has ran its race
The other side was always the more valuable one since the beginning.
I dont think management was the reason.
I just think that, unlike Nets, Nets can really make a quantum leap from their position (already have two superstars) after going all in for Harden. Unlike us.
Nets have better risk vs reward ratio than us doing a deal that would require us to give like 4 draft picks and 4 pick swaps.
Rox got Dipo, Exum and 4 draft picks and 4 pick swaps. I say they’re asking just or very near to as many picks.
Imagine us trading Ben, Thybulle and 4 draft picks and 4 pick swaps. Short term, you don’t make that quantum leap Nets did. Long term, you risk being a mediocre team while Biid is post his peak.
You’re looking at Biid at age 31 with no draft picks and likely 1-2 borderline stars. That’s like the Orlando Magic right now with Vuc, Fournier and Fultz.
The more I think of Ben, I think he’s more of a third star. This brought me peace and acceptance. Second stars can still carry a team on his shoulder like AD or PG or Kyrie. Not Ben. Ben is more like an accessory, he makes Biid or your second star great.
I do think we need to trade for Beal or Lavine with Tobias and assets. But if not, you better hope one of Seth, Milton, Maxey or Tobi becomes a 2nd star. Because once Biid is slowed down by elite defense or he gets cold, you’re in deep sh*t.
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