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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#101 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:29 pm

LloydFree wrote:As currently constructed, the 76ers can't beat a fully healthy Brooklyn Nets. Now I doubt they'll be fully healthy by the time the ECF occurs, but if they are, the 76ers need another player who can pretend to defend Kyrie Irving or James Harden and has the ability to make them work on the Defensive end.

I'd trade for Victor Oladipo to put in the Starting Lineup, if he can pass a physical.


What's the most you'd give for him, considering we might not be able to retain him and/or he might be damaged goods?

I've proposed Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd but interested in hearing other hypothetical offers.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#102 » by LloydFree » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:10 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
LloydFree wrote:As currently constructed, the 76ers can't beat a fully healthy Brooklyn Nets. Now I doubt they'll be fully healthy by the time the ECF occurs, but if they are, the 76ers need another player who can pretend to defend Kyrie Irving or James Harden and has the ability to make them work on the Defensive end.

I'd trade for Victor Oladipo to put in the Starting Lineup, if he can pass a physical.


What's the most you'd give for him, considering we might not be able to retain him and/or he might be damaged goods?

I've proposed Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd but interested in hearing other hypothetical offers.

I'd do Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd, and you wouldn't have to ask me twice. Asl long as he could pass a physical.

If they could get a 3rd team involved I'd try to get rid of Ferguson-Bradley-Porier and give up the '21 1st round pick instead of getting rid of Danny Green. They're trying to win the championship, they need the rotation to be at least 8 deep.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#103 » by ProcessDoctor » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:19 pm

LloydFree wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
LloydFree wrote:As currently constructed, the 76ers can't beat a fully healthy Brooklyn Nets. Now I doubt they'll be fully healthy by the time the ECF occurs, but if they are, the 76ers need another player who can pretend to defend Kyrie Irving or James Harden and has the ability to make them work on the Defensive end.

I'd trade for Victor Oladipo to put in the Starting Lineup, if he can pass a physical.


What's the most you'd give for him, considering we might not be able to retain him and/or he might be damaged goods?

I've proposed Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd but interested in hearing other hypothetical offers.

I'd do Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd, and you wouldn't have to ask me twice. Asl long as he could pass a physical.

If they could get a 3rd team involved I'd try to get rid of Ferguson-Bradley-Porier and give up the '21 1st round pick instead of getting rid of Danny Green. They're trying to win the championship, they need the rotation to be at least 8 deep.


I'd be very hesitant to give up Maxey + '21 first for any package that doesn't guarantee us a star in return, but I understand your point. If Dipo ever returns to peak form, he'd be an absolute steal.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#104 » by LloydFree » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:34 pm

ProcessDoctor wrote:
LloydFree wrote:
ProcessDoctor wrote:
What's the most you'd give for him, considering we might not be able to retain him and/or he might be damaged goods?

I've proposed Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd but interested in hearing other hypothetical offers.

I'd do Green/Maxey/NYK 2nd, and you wouldn't have to ask me twice. Asl long as he could pass a physical.

If they could get a 3rd team involved I'd try to get rid of Ferguson-Bradley-Porier and give up the '21 1st round pick instead of getting rid of Danny Green. They're trying to win the championship, they need the rotation to be at least 8 deep.


I'd be very hesitant to give up Maxey + '21 first for any package that doesn't guarantee us a star in return, but I understand your point. If Dipo ever returns to peak form, he'd be an absolute steal.

The '21 1st doesn't mean anything to me. It's going to be #25 or later in the draft. When you're in position to win the championship, you don't undercut your chances trying to hold onto the #25 pick. Picks outside of the top 10 are overrated.

The front office should be able to acquire talent in the draft either way, if they're doing their jobs. Memphis didn't even have a 1st round pick this year, and they have a better rookie class than Boston and Detroit, who had 3 1st round picks each.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#105 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:45 pm

Sixers won't max Oladipo, though, will they? Gotta keep Maxey and the 1st round pick and just do it the hard way.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#106 » by kuclas » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:58 pm

Oladipo had one good season. 2017-2018. That’s ages ago. He was off to a hot 2018-2019 season. But than had a few nagging injuries to slow him down.

And than the big injury at the beginning of 2019.

I have followed his career since Orlando. He’s never been a good outside shooter. Just streaky. People have illusions of him playing like it’s 2017. He’s just not the same player. He’s just jacking up shots in Houston. Highly ineffective.

I don’t see a role for victor on a contender. He’s clearly over judge his value. I don’t know what Indiana as trying to offer to resign him. But he will be lucky to get a one year deal next season just on hope he can regain some explosiveness. He certainly isn’t shooting well.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#107 » by sixers4real » Wed Mar 3, 2021 3:09 am

kuclas wrote:Oladipo had one good season. 2017-2018. That’s ages ago. He was off to a hot 2018-2019 season. But than had a few nagging injuries to slow him down.

And than the big injury at the beginning of 2019.

I have followed his career since Orlando. He’s never been a good outside shooter. Just streaky. People have illusions of him playing like it’s 2017. He’s just not the same player. He’s just jacking up shots in Houston. Highly ineffective.

I don’t see a role for victor on a contender. He’s clearly over judge his value. I don’t know what Indiana as trying to offer to resign him. But he will be lucky to get a one year deal next season just on hope he can regain some explosiveness. He certainly isn’t shooting well.

Yeah I think he won’t put us in the same tier as Nets, LAC and LAL.
And he will demand A LOT of money in 2021 off-season, and clearly some GM will pay him over 100 M for a 4-year deal.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#108 » by Stribor » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:12 pm

Stanford wrote:Probably 70/30 Brooklyn. But 30 is a pretty good percentage.

On Jerami Grant: Is he even a plus defender?


70/30 if they are complete. KD has his problems in body, Kyrie sometimes just forgets his head in the fridge for a few days, so I would say 60/40.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#109 » by 76ciology » Wed Mar 3, 2021 6:42 pm

Oladipo.

If you plan to improve your chance to beat brooklyn in 2021 and have no chance to beat brooklyn at all by 2022 onwards.

I’d take Melo’s health over Oladipo’s, anyday.

Melo is just fat. :lol:
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#110 » by kuclas » Thu Mar 4, 2021 2:12 pm

We can beat Brooklyn with 4 out of 7 game at our home court.

Sixers starting 5 has not lost a home court game since Mavericks lost dec 2019

Yes. It’s been that long.

But we need to be healthy. At least the starters need to be healthy.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#111 » by SixthStreet » Thu Mar 4, 2021 3:14 pm

Only if Thybulle has a heater from the beyond the arc like he did for a month last year before his injury so he's playable. Thybulle on Kyrie, Simmons on Harden and let KD get his.

Otherwise I don't see much of a road to win a series against them even with MVBiid and aggressive Ben.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#112 » by kuclas » Thu Mar 4, 2021 9:25 pm

SixthStreet wrote:Only if Thybulle has a heater from the beyond the arc like he did for a month last year before his injury so he's playable. Thybulle on Kyrie, Simmons on Harden and let KD get his.

Otherwise I don't see much of a road to win a series against them even with MVBiid and aggressive Ben.

Home court matters for sixers.

That’s the best road to playoff success.

Sixers have played up to their playoff seeding the past 3 seasons. We go as far as home court gives us.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#113 » by Murray_17 » Thu Mar 4, 2021 11:15 pm

Why are people discussing wasting chips and treading for a guy who cannot stay on the floor without getting an injury, who wants to be maxed and is a steph Curry volume shoter that is boasting a wooping 48% TS and 39% FG for the season?

Oladipo is ass
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#114 » by Chocolate or Thunder? » Fri Mar 5, 2021 5:17 pm

While I believe Jerami Grant would be ideal for this lineup, realistically, someone of the ilk of T.Ross or Evan Fournier might do the trick. We really don't need that much. It's either two non-star additions that can shoot 3's or one star/close to being a star player that can score. Our problem is simply scoring particularly at the three. I honestly feel like we are really close.
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Re: Can we Beat Brooklyn (7 game series) 

Post#115 » by sixers4real » Wed Mar 31, 2021 7:41 am

Am I in minority who loves that the Nets got Griffin and Aldridge? These guys were never known for their defense, they are slow now, and are not that good of a rebounders.
We can be a mismatch for them with our size and defense.
I want Sixers Nets ECF badly.

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