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Game 34: Philadelphia 76ers (22-11) vs Cleveland Cavaliers (12-21) l Saturday l 7pm l NBATV

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Re: Game 34: Philadelphia 76ers (22-11) vs Cleveland Cavaliers (12-21) l Saturday l 7pm l NBATV 

Post#221 » by spikeslovechild » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:57 am

Those people who want to trade Harris for scrubs get to see what that looks like for a bit
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Post#222 » by sixers4real » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:04 am

76ciology wrote:Danny Green is good. But you know who would have been better? Al Horford.

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Until we make use that cap space to accommodate another player, only Josh Harris won that trade.

Al Horford contract is not only worse then Denny Greens, but for the whole team building un the next 3 years.

Josh Harris has nothing to do with that trade.
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Post#223 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:22 am

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Post#224 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:26 am

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76ciology wrote:Danny Green is good. But you know who would have been better? Al Horford.

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Until we make use that cap space to accommodate another player, only Josh Harris won that trade.

Al Horford contract is not only worse then Denny Greens, but for the whole team building un the next 3 years.

Josh Harris has nothing to do with that trade.


Yeah. But you dont win the title by having the most cap friendly contracts. You win the title by having the most talent. And if you look at the numbers, Al allows us to be a good team without Embiid.

The key is good coaching. We should have benched him like how Warriors used Iguodala.

Like I said, until Morey uses that capspace to accommodate for a player, then the trade has only benefitted Josh Harris’ wallet over the team
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Post#225 » by DCasey91 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 7:24 am

1 out of 4 seasons without the proper starting/bench unit. I’m not holding my breath at the top (owner).

Morey has his work cut out. Everyone here has had suggested trades. Some very good ones I might add. But even with a good trade, it’s going to take 2/3 more to get this team up to scratch (probably need 2 just on the starting unit if we are being realistic).
That outside player has to get unassisted buckets and shoot on range. Basically a stud. Good luck to Morey

We are a fair way behind in terms of “window” time. Windows are short anyway without being a dynastic team.
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Post#226 » by sixers4real » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:23 am

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76ciology wrote:Danny Green is good. But you know who would have been better? Al Horford.

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Until we make use that cap space to accommodate another player, only Josh Harris won that trade.

Al Horford contract is not only worse then Denny Greens, but for the whole team building un the next 3 years.

Josh Harris has nothing to do with that trade.


Yeah. But you dont win the title by having the most cap friendly contracts. You win the title by having the most talent. And if you look at the numbers, Al allows us to be a good team without Embiid.

The key is good coaching. We should have benched him like how Warriors used Iguodala.

Like I said, until Morey uses that capspace to accommodate for a player, then the trade has only benefitted Josh Harris’ wallet over the team

Exactly. Having Al Horford on this team right now would not put in the same tier as LAL, LAC and Brooklyn. We would have better talent, yeah, maybe, but Al Horford is not a difference maker. Such a stupid singing in first place.

With Danny Green instead of Al we are more flexible, and yeah, I know we lack one FRP because of that trade. But we all know this team is not winning title as totally constructed. We need a move or two to be real contenders. Significant moves, not just some but-out singing or Delon Wright. I mean real move. And I'm sure Morey will make it, sooner for later. We have assets to make a real move.
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Post#227 » by XtremeDunkz » Sun Feb 28, 2021 8:27 am

76ciology wrote:Danny Green is good. But you know who would have been better? Al Horford.

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Until we make use that cap space to accommodate another player, only Josh Harris won that trade.
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Post#228 » by DaBolden76 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 11:19 am

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His form looked good. This shot demonstrates his unwillingness to shoot is mental not that he can’t shoot the ball.
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Post#229 » by 76thBearCub » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:00 pm

Haven't watched it yet. Looking at the box score, if Curry, Shake, and Furk are playing the bulk of the minutes in the back court, and go 2 of 14 from 3, it aint pretty.
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Post#230 » by kuclas » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:18 pm

It’s one thing for Portland’s backups shoot lights out especially from 3 point range to beat sixers at home. But Cleveland didn’t even play good. Most of their points in transition of in the paint. They shot worst than sixers last night. Sixers shot poorly from the line as well. Just an inexcusable lost at home.

We just can’t afford to lose many of these games if we want to maintain the one seed. The east is very weak. But not much separating teams from 1-3. And from 4-10.
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Post#231 » by LloydFree » Sun Feb 28, 2021 1:19 pm

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LloydFree wrote:Can someone explain to me why Brooklyn is only a 1 point favorite over Dallas, with only Durant out right now, while the 76ers are an 11 point favorite over the Cavs, with Tobias Harris out.

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Post#232 » by Sixerscan » Sun Feb 28, 2021 3:54 pm

76ciology wrote:
sixers4real wrote:
76ciology wrote:Danny Green is good. But you know who would have been better? Al Horford.

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Until we make use that cap space to accommodate another player, only Josh Harris won that trade.

Al Horford contract is not only worse then Denny Greens, but for the whole team building un the next 3 years.

Josh Harris has nothing to do with that trade.


Yeah. But you dont win the title by having the most cap friendly contracts. You win the title by having the most talent. And if you look at the numbers, Al allows us to be a good team without Embiid.

The key is good coaching. We should have benched him like how Warriors used Iguodala.

Like I said, until Morey uses that capspace to accommodate for a player, then the trade has only benefitted Josh Harris’ wallet over the team

Seems like it’s directly resulted in Embiid being happier and playing the best basketball of his career. Wouldn’t discount that. But yeah it was also about lowering the tax bill to some extent. We’ll see about the follow-up trade.
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Post#233 » by Skates » Sun Feb 28, 2021 4:54 pm

Getting rid of Horford has really made all of Embiid, Simmons and Harris better this year. He was just not a great fit except when Embiid was out and that is too much to pay a backup. They thought he would spread the floor with his outside shot and it did not happen.

I should just never watch Sixers-Cavs games, it was the only game I went to in person past year and saw them lose. The Raptors are an understandable nemesis with their length and D, the Cavs are like energy drainers every time we play them the Sixers look like they are sleepwalking through most of the game. Gah.
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Post#234 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:04 pm

Horford regret?

Dwight is better than Al, IMO.

Also, having a defensive player that can space the floor in Danny Green has been a godsend.
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Post#235 » by sixers hoops » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:07 pm

spikeslovechild wrote:Those people who want to trade Harris for scrubs get to see what that looks like for a bit

Yeah, but we’ve been beat by bad teams several times with Tobias in the lineup, so this game didn’t really indicate that Tobias what have prevented this.
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Post#236 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:13 pm

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76ciology wrote:
sixers4real wrote:Al Horford contract is not only worse then Denny Greens, but for the whole team building un the next 3 years.

Josh Harris has nothing to do with that trade.


Yeah. But you dont win the title by having the most cap friendly contracts. You win the title by having the most talent. And if you look at the numbers, Al allows us to be a good team without Embiid.

The key is good coaching. We should have benched him like how Warriors used Iguodala.

Like I said, until Morey uses that capspace to accommodate for a player, then the trade has only benefitted Josh Harris’ wallet over the team

Seems like it’s directly resulted in Embiid being happier and playing the best basketball of his career. Wouldn’t discount that. But yeah it was also about lowering the tax bill to some extent. We’ll see about the follow-up trade.


I think there will be a follow-up trade, and it will eventually fall into place.
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Post#237 » by sixers hoops » Sun Feb 28, 2021 5:15 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Daryl knows this team needs a trade to win a title.

What I *hope* is he realizes that Ben and Joel will (hopefully) be at this level for several years so if there's not a good trade to make that happen he can wait. Like don't give up the Harden package for Lavine just because the Bulls are demanding it.


In a way, I feel like we are only one starter and one bench player away. The problem is we have too much salary locked into our top three to add a starter with any significant salary.

Mike Scott isn’t good enough to be our backup four so they need a stretch big and could get one if needed.

However, they badly need a guard who can create and score, and I don’t want to give up assets for a rental, yet anybody with guaranteed years brings luxury tax concerns. Would Harris pay repeater tax for certain level of player? My guess is no.
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Post#238 » by 76ciology » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:17 pm

Down the stretch.

Cavs runs sexton or garland with Jarett Allen, pnr. The infamous 1-5 PnR.

Cavs doubles Biid on ISO and forces guys like Seth and Milton to hurt us.

It kind of exposed our weakness. Biid is no pogo stick on defense, Cavs guards have the floater or the lobs for Jarett Allen whenever they run their 1-5 PnR. I thought we should have switched it with Ben or Green (preferably tobi or bigger wing) to defend their guards and switch to Allen if they opt to run 1-5 PnR. Force Allen to create on offense. We could also throw him double teams and lead to try to score with the shotclock running up.

Teams can double Biid and expose our lack of another shot creator outside Embiid. Seth has a handicap with his inability to pull his shots off against longer defender while Green can’t dribble.

Still we could have won this with Tobi. Tobi allows us to play faster on both ends. Tobi also gives us another option on offense down the stretch that could punish the Cavs if they opt to get the ball out of Jojo’s hands.

Ben didn’t make any impact or any plays down the stretch.
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Post#239 » by Mik317 » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:31 pm

Dwight is ok with playing small minutes.
AL would not have been.
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Post#240 » by Kobblehead » Sun Feb 28, 2021 6:46 pm

Dwight just has better C traits than Horford.

Horford's spacing and passing are a luxury. What we actually need from our C is shot contests/rim protection and rebounding. Neither of which Horford provides.

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