76ciology wrote:HardenToSixers wrote:76ciology wrote:If you guys dont think of KPJ highly, then we might as well just traded Jrich for someone pick swap, future first or a project.
Maybe we could even just hold unto Jrich and waited the trade deadline and trade him for Aaron Gordon. Jrich should be a more valuable asset than Gary Harris who’s about to be paid 20M next season and is already washed up.
If we want a shooter to compliment Biid, then go get someone like Wayne Ellington.
Curry just seems like a advanced stats fantasy because he’s good during the non crucial moments and against bad teams and is really selective with his shots that pads up his points per shot, but he isnt a good chess piece (sometimes not even playable) on crucial moments down the stretch against good teams which is our team’s main problem.
Dont get me wrong.
The moves we did during the offseason made us a very good team. It’s not as talented as our team last offseason, but the fit is way much better.
But we sacrificed present talent (jrich+Al > Seth+green) and a 2025 pick that might had already costed us the Harden deal and possible Harden deal opportunities in the future.
For what? Cap flexibility? To sign a Bjelica type player?
You see guys like Drummond or LMA signing for almost peanuts.
I don’t really get putting down the moves this past offseason.
We had a negative value contract we absolutely had to move in Horford. It would’ve been a distracting toxic environment all year that really would’ve made our star player angry. We got Danny Green in exchange who has been great for us. We gave up a first, sure, but that move was not going to happen for free. And no team other than OKC was going to value a pick 4 years off that highly regardless of it making sense given a potential decline from us (which won’t happen then btw).
Jrich for Seth Curry was fine. Clearly a better fit and gave us an asset beyond this year. Sure, Curry could be played off the court in the playoffs but the cost was minimal and he helped the spacing around our stars and got us back on track.
Competing this year and making our stars happy had value and it was important. We did it at minimal cost despite it being understandable that it’s frustrating. You should blame your boys Elton and BC for making negative moves like signing Horford and for burning our assets so our 2025 first seems like a backbreaking asset to give up. Not Morey.
We can argue back and forth about Al. But what’s done is done with the Al trade.
With Al, we’re a playoff team not a championship team. Without Al, we’re also a playoff team and not a championship team.
Like I said, you can bench Al. And if you look at the advanced stats, Al was good with any of our 5 man unit. We’re a lot better even without Biid, last year than without Biid this year. Al allows us to be a good team whenever our fragile superstar takes his load management.
And it’s not impossible to bench Al. We did that during the bubble when we started Milton and let Al play off the bench.
That said, the Al horford trade was unnecessary and it costed us talent and our most valuable first round pick just to get rid of him.
“But we got cap flexibility”
Do we need cap flexibility? You see guys like Drummond signing for peanuts. That cap flexibility is just going to get you someone like Bjelica. Not as talented as Al but cheaper. For who’s benefit? The team? Maybe for the owner.
Today, you won’t see the consequence. Because we always do well in the regular season (we’re the favorites to make it to the finals last season from the offseason till near the end of the season).
But in the offseason, when we’re out in the playoffs and have to retool in the offseason it’s gonna hurt us.
Or maybe it already did..
when Rox was asking for an extra first rounder for Harden and we werent able to get them that. So Morey tried to call the Kings to get another first but failed.
Maybe I think highly of Morey and do expect more from him and maybe you’re just satisfied with a 1st to 2nd round exit team with good locker room chemistry.
We all have different standards so i respect that and i hope you also respect mine.
You’re literally the person that keeps bringing up the Horford thing lol. And every time someone explains the reasoning behind it and you just ignore it and make a different iteration of the same post you’ve made 50 times before. He didn’t even say anything about “cap flexibility”.
Anyway this line about being much better without Embiid last year isn’t really true at this point. They were +0.2 without Embiid last year versus exactly 0.0 this year. They’re 9-8 without him versus 11-11 last year.
And they’re of course much better *with* Embiid on the court which is in part driven by the Green/Embiid lineups being much better than the Horford/Embiid lineups.
You’re right, what’s done is done, so how about we accept the (very successful) trades Morey made rather than try to make up alternative fantasy trades?