Tobias Harris Trade Thread

[ExplosionsInDaSky]

The same issues the Sixers face with Harris (not enough output to warrant that contract) will prevent any trade to another competing team.
My big worry is that Morey actually sees Tobias as a positive piece (I know Glenn does, but I also don't really care about his opinion). If that is the case, Embiid's career will be wasted.

I think it's more that both Morey and Rivers want to win at all costs and Tobias Harris (love him or hate him) is one of our best options on this team. In no way do I think we are just better without Harris on the floor. He's a starter in this league being paid like an all star. Doc is rolling with Harris because he gives us our best shot at winning games and that is what Doc is being paid to do. How Doc feels about Harris as a fit with the team or if he's living up to his contract is totally irrelevant as far as coaching goes. Doc may not feel like he's a positive piece, but he's really got no other choice. I personally don't think Harris is even tradeable at this time. I don't understand the hate he gets other than...He's being overpaid and asked to do too much and I don't think that is necessarily his fault.
I don't see this as an addition by subtraction type of situation either. We need Tobias Harris to play and to play well in terms of how our current roster is constructed along with our playoff hopes. I don't see us trading him for a number of reasons. Number one being that he's not a distraction to this team in any way shape or form. Harris has been a professional his entire NBA career and that alone is a blessing when you compare him to the childish crap Ben has pulled. Number two, as someone else mentioned, he's a backend starter on any team in this league, he can score, rebound, and isn't a total liability on defense. We could do a lot worse. Number three being that while he isn't the answer to completing this team, he also isn't the problem towards not doing it. That is unless you consider his contract to be a roadblock in which case, that would be Elton Brands fault and not his. I'm specifically speaking about Tobias Harris the basketball player in this instant.
In short, if we were to trade him tomorrow, I personally wouldn't be too upset about it. After about a week, I probably wouldn't miss him at all. I definitely don't think he's a long term fit. As I said earlier, he's way overpaid and a bit overrated. NO, I don't think he's an all star either, but we have no other choice right now but to roll with him.

[SixersSince82]

I'll say this again but the issue with Harris mainly is how much he is being paid and the fact we don't have a true 2nd banana next to Embiid.

He isn't a bad player and trading him just to get him off the team doesn't help us in any way.

Agree and disagree.

Absolutely ,Tobias isn't a bad player. He's a slightly above average starter. But I disagree the main issue with him is simply that we don't have a true 2nd banana.

The issue with Tobias is his specific skill set. He rebounds and makes mid rangers when he has the size and strength advantage. That's it. He's a reluctant floor spacer, not a playmaker, doesn't draw fouls or really create many scoring opportunities at the cup. He's not a valuable defensive piece. If the 6ers were able to bring in a true 2nd banana next to Joel, Harris would just represent diminishing returns offensively while providing zero intangibles. At that point his money, even if he were making 25 mil instead of 36 mil, could be spent much more wisely, imo.

So from that perspective, you kinda have to trade Tobias regardless of Ben Simmons status. I mean, if the goal is to eventually build a championship caliber team, as opposed to the current pseudo contender they've been sans Jimmy Butler.

Personally, I think this team has a major retool (around Joel) ahead of itself if it truly wants to compete for titles. The longer they hold off they more they are flushing Jo's career down the toilet.

[the_process]

Would the Rockets be our dumping ground for Harris?

Harris and Milton

for

Gordon and Wood

Has to be Wall instead of Wood. Which the Sixers should still do.

[VDT]

I'll say this again but the issue with Harris mainly is how much he is being paid and the fact we don't have a true 2nd banana next to Embiid.

He isn't a bad player and trading him just to get him off the team doesn't help us in any way.

Agree and disagree.

Absolutely ,Tobias isn't a bad player. He's a slightly above average starter. But I disagree the main issue with him is simply that we don't have a true 2nd banana.

The issue with Tobias is his specific skill set. He rebounds and makes mid rangers when he has the size and strength advantage. That's it. He's a reluctant floor spacer, not a playmaker, doesn't draw fouls or really create many scoring opportunities at the cup. He's not a valuable defensive piece. If the 6ers were able to bring in a true 2nd banana next to Joel, Harris would just represent diminishing returns offensively while providing zero intangibles. At that point his money, even if he were making 25 mil instead of 36 mil, could be spent much more wisely, imo.

So from that perspective, you kinda have to trade Tobias regardless of Ben Simmons status. I mean, if the goal is to eventually build a championship caliber team, as opposed to the current pseudo contender they've been sans Jimmy Butler.

Personally, I think this team has a major retool (around Joel) ahead of itself if it truly wants to compete for titles. The longer they hold off they more they are flushing Jo's career down the toilet.

THat's spot on. Harris needs to be on a bad team scoring as many points as he can. That will be the best for his legacy and bank account. He is not good enough to do it on a good team and he doesnt offer much else really. Still, i doubt we can get something better for him so i dont really mind him at the moment. If we manage to get another star, we need to ship Harris for someone that can defend and space the floor from the 4.

[PhillyFan11]

Would anyone do this for Sixers? How about Indy?

Sixers out- Tobi, Springer, Shake, 2024 lottery protected 1st
Sixers in- Levert, Thad Young, Jeremy Lamb

Pacers out- Turner, Levert, Lamb
Pacers in- Tobi, Vassell, Springer, Sixers 2024 lottery protected 1st, 2 Spurs 2nds

Spurs out- Thad, Vassell, ‘23 and ‘25 2nd
Spurs in- Turner and Shake

Brogdon, Duarte, Warren, Tobi, Sabonis…that’s actually pretty damn solid, keep them 4th/5th in the east for a few years. Does Indy really have bigger aspirations lol? Plus the extra assets…biggest drawback I could see is if it would put them over the luxury tax by a bunch, not sure about that

[ProcessDoctor]

I wonder if Morey intends to use Harris in a S&T for Harden and not Simmons. The question is if Brooklyn would rather Harden walk for free than take on Harris’s deal.

[Foshan]

I wonder if Morey intends to use Harris in a S&T for Harden and not Simmons. The question is if Brooklyn would rather Harden walk for free than take on Harris’s deal.

Ive got to think there are at least 20 other teams that would be lining up salary and picks for a S&T that would look more attractive.

It would take a 6 yr pick package with Tobias to get that done.

[SixthStreet]

I wonder if Morey intends to use Harris in a S&T for Harden and not Simmons. The question is if Brooklyn would rather Harden walk for free than take on Harris’s deal.

I don't think this would be the case but I've previously posted that Harris will eventually become very valuable salary ballast but I think that will have to be two offseasons from now when he only has one year left. Doubt the Nets will go for 2 years at $38m.

I think if Harris is still here that offseason Morey will be able to turn him into a pretty damn good, maybe star player if we keep our assets.

[the_process]

Would anyone do this for Sixers? How about Indy?

Sixers out- Tobi, Springer, Shake, 2024 lottery protected 1st
Sixers in- Levert, Thad Young, Jeremy Lamb

Pacers out- Turner, Levert, Lamb
Pacers in- Tobi, Vassell, Springer, Sixers 2024 lottery protected 1st, 2 Spurs 2nds

Spurs out- Thad, Vassell, ‘23 and ‘25 2nd
Spurs in- Turner and Shake

Brogdon, Duarte, Warren, Tobi, Sabonis…that’s actually pretty damn solid, keep them 4th/5th in the east for a few years. Does Indy really have bigger aspirations lol? Plus the extra assets…biggest drawback I could see is if it would put them over the luxury tax by a bunch, not sure about that

I can't go for that (no can do).

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[TGW]

Would the Sixers do Kuzma and Bertans for Harris? I think the overall cap savings is 6 mil over the life of the contracts.

[ProcessDoctor]

I wonder if Morey intends to use Harris in a S&T for Harden and not Simmons. The question is if Brooklyn would rather Harden walk for free than take on Harris’s deal.

Ive got to think there are at least 20 other teams that would be lining up salary and picks for a S&T that would look more attractive.

It would take a 6 yr pick package with Tobias to get that done.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Harden have to agree to the team he goes to?

[mjkvol]

Would the Sixers do Kuzma and Bertans for Harris? I think the overall cap savings is 6 mil over the life of the contracts.

I sure as hell would. In a heartbeat.

[stormi]

Would the Sixers do Kuzma and Bertans for Harris? I think the overall cap savings is 6 mil over the life of the contracts.

Without much hesitation.

[the_process]

Would the Sixers do Kuzma and Bertans for Harris? I think the overall cap savings is 6 mil over the life of the contracts.

Yep. Call it in to Silver.

[Stanford]

Bertans' contract is gross and he's pretty unplayable. I know you have to take some **** to get rid of Tobias, but, man...

[ProcessDoctor]

That's a huge downgrade in talent IMO. I would probably say no.

I wish we jumped on a Harris-Love trade over the summer.

[ProcessDoctor]

There you have it. We finally have a report claiming we are trying to offload Harris.

[the_process]

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[mjkvol]

The funniest part of that report is that Atlanta was interested in pursuing a trade for Simmons until the Sixers wanted to include Harris in the deal. Funniest, and saddest.

There must be another Elton Brand somewhere in the league. Mustn't there?

[eyeatoma]

The funniest part of that report is that Atlanta was interested in pursuing a trade for Simmons until the Sixers wanted to include Harris in the deal. Funniest, and saddest.

There must be another Elton Brand somewhere in the league. Mustn't there?

You just speculating or saw the Atlanta was out?

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