The Tomjas Thread

KramerDSP · Post #21 » by **KramerDSP** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:27 pm

https://hoopshype.com/lists/nba-trade-candidates/

Cam Reddish, Coby White, and Joe Ingles seem like the most intriguing names from that list.

Kobblehead · Post #22 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:46 pm

Hield/Bagley seems like the most gettable package on that list.

Hield, Bagley, Haliburton, picks/swaps for Simmons and Thybulle.

Bum Adebayo · Post #23 » by **Bum Adebayo** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 12:59 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Hield/Bagley seems like the most gettable package on that list.

Hield, Bagley, Haliburton, picks/swaps for Simmons and Thybulle.

Stop please, do you want to lose all the Aussie fans we have?

Post #24 » by **Stanford** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:07 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Hield/Bagley seems like the most gettable package on that list.

Hield, Bagley, Haliburton, picks/swaps for Simmons and Thybulle.

Do you really think we could get that though?

I'd be happy with that package if it was available.

sixers4real · Post #25 » by **sixers4real** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:15 pm

eyeatoma wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:I'm just sad at this point. I want us to stop being subjected to this. I need a resolution so I can fully enjoy the season!

This a 1000%. This is so hard as a fan.

As of now, there can only be a bad resolution = bad trade.

To me, as fan, a hope that we can and will trade Simmons for a difference maker is better then a bad resolution right now.

mjkvol · Post #26 » by **mjkvol** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:16 pm

Kobblehead wrote:Hield/Bagley seems like the most gettable package on that list.

Hield, Bagley, Haliburton, picks/swaps for Simmons and Thybulle.

I'd sign for that in a second. Seems as if Fox and Haliburton are untouchable though.

Kobblehead · Post #27 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:25 pm

Stanford wrote:
Kobblehead wrote:Hield/Bagley seems like the most gettable package on that list.

Hield, Bagley, Haliburton, picks/swaps for Simmons and Thybulle.

Do you really think we could get that though?

I'd be happy with that package if it was available.

I'd imagine so, depending on how flexible Morey is with the pick/swap demand.

Kings likely don't want to give up Haliburton, but the combination of taking Bagley off their hands and including Thybulle may tip the scales into getting them to part with him.

KramerDSP · Post #28 » by **KramerDSP** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:30 pm

1) could Hield be a closer?
2) can Bagley be “fixed”? What’s his role here?
3) what does our starting line up/rotation look like after this trade?

Kobblehead · Post #29 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:37 pm

KramerDSP wrote:1) could Hield be a closer?
2) can Bagley be “fixed”? What’s his role here?
3) what does our starting line up/rotation look like after this trade?

1. No, but he can be a bigger, more athletic Redick type for us.

2. Not a fan of Bagley, I would waive him right after the trade.

C Embiid
F Harris
F Green
G Curry
G Haliburton

Hield, Korkmaz, Maxey, and Milton as the non-bigs off the bench.

Post #30 » by **Stanford** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:01 pm

KramerDSP wrote:1) could Hield be a closer?

No, and that's a good point. I feel like we'd still have the same issues in the last 5 minutes. We'd need internal development and/or another trade to be a legit contender. I do think that trade makes us better though.

Kobblehead wrote:Hield, Korkmaz, Maxey, and Milton as the non-bigs off the bench.

Can't imagine Hield would be thrilled about coming off the bench.

Kobblehead · Post #31 » by **Kobblehead** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:16 pm

Therein lies the Glenn problem. I don't see him removing Curry or Green from the starting lineup to accommodate Hield. Maybe a couple of months from now, we can send Green to Phoenix for Saric or Crowder.

Post #32 » by **Sixerscan** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 3:59 pm

Hield is coming off the bench for the Kings.

Him and Curry wouldn’t work defensively anyway.

This does show the issue of trading Simmons for multiple guys. This team has enough borderline starters, if anything it needs a consolidation trade.

Post #33 » by **Stanford** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 4:05 pm

Sixerscan wrote:Hield is coming off the bench for the Kings.

Fair enough. I didn't know.

Tomjas · Post #34 » by **Tomjas** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:18 pm

Bagley is in & out of the Kings rotation atm

Kings have been trying to move he & Hield all summer

TheBallsDeeper · Post #35 » by **TheBallsDeeper** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:14 pm

Can't quote from the previous thread, so I'll just cut and paste what I wrote 6 days ago -

"So if it's a mental health issue, he is basically injured and still must get paid? Well played Klutch."

Skates · Post #36 » by **Skates** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:30 pm

The December trade clarity and flexibility will hopefully include a Danny Green trade possibility, which could help with both salary matching and opening up a roster spot or two beyond Simmons' spot.

LeonJordanJr24 · Post #37 » by **LeonJordanJr24** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:15 pm

Yeah Danny is cooked.

SixthStreet · Post #38 » by **SixthStreet** » Sun Oct 24, 2021 11:48 pm

Held would be useful in the regular season. Completely worthless in the playoffs. Unless he's a negative asset in the trade (i.e. getting picks/swaps for taking his salary) no way.

GutUNC · Post #39 » by **GutUNC** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:24 am

LeonJordanJr24 wrote:Yeah Danny is cooked.

You know the Danny experience. He's going to look like he was introduced to basketball yesterday for a couple weeks and then he's going to hit 60% of his 3s for the next couple of weeks. Don't get too high or too low.

KramerDSP · Post #40 » by **KramerDSP** » Mon Oct 25, 2021 1:25 am

Here’s a crazy three way trade I’m sure some of you will think is insane, but I’m gonna throw it out there anyway.

Houston trades Wall for Harris and Thybulle.

Sacramento trades Barnes, Bagley, Haliburton, and a 2022nd 1st for Simmons, Milton, and Reed.

Philly trades Simmons, Milton, Thybulle, Reed for Wall, Barnes, Bagley, Haliburton, and a 1st or a swap.

Philly ends up with:

John Wall/Tyrese Haliburton
Seth Curry/Tyrese Maxey
Danny Green/Furkan Korkmaz
Harrison Barnes/Georges Niang
Joel Embiid/Andre Drummond

At the deadline, we consolidate the roster further and turn Danny Green ++ into a solid 4 who can move Barnes to the 3.