Post Harden Lineup Thread

[FireMorey]

Think it should be Danny. Best blend of shooting and some defense. Gotta have as many shooters with Harden and Embiid as possible.

[Jailblazers7]

Have to imagine we see Danny in closing lineups more than as a starter for the rest of the year since I don’t think he can handle starter minutes anymore.

But I think Niang probably deserves the nod and we’ll see if we can get away with playing so many slow pokes lol. I think Danny can slot in so easily that it’s worth experimenting with Matisse and Niang as starters for the rest of the year so we know which lines up work in different scenarios for the playoffs.

[zaz102]

Danny might be better served on the bench so he can use his 25 minutes and fill in D or F bases on matchups. So I would probably start Thybulle even though Green is the better/more reliable player.

[GuideDog]

Start Niang. He's a better spot up shooter with Harden than Matisse or Danny. Niang and Tobias work fine together..

[Iverson Armband]

Maxey
Harden
Green
Harris
Embiid

First two subs are Thybulle and Niang for DG and Tobias. After that, who cares

[Sixerscan]

Niang may close sometimes but pretty sure Thybulle will start. Think Green is done as a starter, just hoping he makes it through the rest of the year healthy.

[Iverson Armband]

Niang may close sometimes but pretty sure Thybulle will start. Think Green is done as a starter, just hoping he makes it through the rest of the year healthy.

I think we need atleast one deadeye shooter in the starting lineup with Harden and Embiid though.

Ideally, Niang starts over Tobias and then Thybulle makes some sense but we know that’s never going to happen.

[Sixerscan]

Niang may close sometimes but pretty sure Thybulle will start. Think Green is done as a starter, just hoping he makes it through the rest of the year healthy.

I think we need atleast one deadeye shooter in the starting lineup with Harden and Embiid though.

Ideally, Niang starts over Tobias and then Thybulle makes some sense but we know that’s never going to happen.

Not worried about Embiid and Harden scoring points, but if it's an issue on a given night you just make the adjustment midgame and play Niang or whoever more. They'll start Thybulle so Harden doesn't have to chase like Anthony Edwards around all night.

[Sixerscan]

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White (the starters) here are Harden/Furk/Thybulle/Harris/Embiid. Maxey didn't practice today because he had some travel delays, presumably he would slot in for Furk.

[Iverson Armband]

Niang may close sometimes but pretty sure Thybulle will start. Think Green is done as a starter, just hoping he makes it through the rest of the year healthy.

I think we need atleast one deadeye shooter in the starting lineup with Harden and Embiid though.

Ideally, Niang starts over Tobias and then Thybulle makes some sense but we know that’s never going to happen.

Not worried about Embiid and Harden scoring points, but if it's an issue on a given night you just make the adjustment midgame and play Niang or whoever more. They'll start Thybulle so Harden doesn't have to chase like Anthony Edwards around all night.

Eh, how you start games matters. They have a lot of talent but it could get clunky quick. You need at minimum 1-2 floor spacers in any lineup in today’s NBA.

Maxey is already noticeably more hesitant to shoot with Embiid on the floor. Now you sandwich him between a guard with the pedigree of Harden and another guy who shoots 28% from 3 … yikes.

[phillynative]

I think we need atleast one deadeye shooter in the starting lineup with Harden and Embiid though.

Ideally, Niang starts over Tobias and then Thybulle makes some sense but we know that’s never going to happen.

Not worried about Embiid and Harden scoring points, but if it's an issue on a given night you just make the adjustment midgame and play Niang or whoever more. They'll start Thybulle so Harden doesn't have to chase like Anthony Edwards around all night.

Eh, how you start games matters. They have a lot of talent but it could get clunky quick. You need at minimum 1-2 floor spacers in any lineup in today’s NBA.

Maxey is already noticeably more hesitant to shoot with Embiid on the floor. Now you sandwich him between a guard with the pedigree of Harden and another guy who shoots 28% from 3 … yikes.

Both points are valid this is why we need a starting 3&D wing preferably with some size. Tisse and Green are bench guys at this stage in their careers.

[Sixerscan]

I think we need atleast one deadeye shooter in the starting lineup with Harden and Embiid though.

Ideally, Niang starts over Tobias and then Thybulle makes some sense but we know that’s never going to happen.

Not worried about Embiid and Harden scoring points, but if it's an issue on a given night you just make the adjustment midgame and play Niang or whoever more. They'll start Thybulle so Harden doesn't have to chase like Anthony Edwards around all night.

Eh, how you start games matters. They have a lot of talent but it could get clunky quick. You need at minimum 1-2 floor spacers in any lineup in today’s NBA.

Maxey is already noticeably more hesitant to shoot with Embiid on the floor. Now you sandwich him between a guard with the pedigree of Harden and another guy who shoots 28% from 3 … yikes.

Well they did just trade for a guy that has taken the 3rd most 3s per game in the history of the sport... this isn't going to be like Simmons where you absolutely need to surround him with elite shooters. Harden brings spacing by himself because of his own shooting. The rest of the guys aren't bad shooters or anything and hopefully they're better with someone like Harden setting them up.

We'll see how it goes, I'm not wed to keeping Thybulle with the starters the rest of the year but I think that's what they start with. If the Sixers valued Thybulle as low as some people on here do they wouldn't have apparently held up the trade to keep him out of it.

[Mik317]

Danny cannot be the primary defender guy for any stretch of time.

Just doesn't have it anymore. His smarts work best off ball IMO. Thybulle also just has to get better and the best way to do so is to be put to the fire. We have 24 games to figure things out. We need to know if Harden can elevate guys ala Biid...because we have some decisions to make with everyone outside of those two going forward...which was another great reason we held on to Maxey and Tiise....for future moves.

[mjkvol]

Danny cannot be the primary defender guy for any stretch of time.

Just doesn't have it anymore. His smarts work best off ball IMO. Thybulle also just has to get better and the best way to do so is to be put to the fire. We have 24 games to figure things out. We need to know if Harden can elevate guys ala Biid...because we have some decisions to make with everyone outside of those two going forward...which was another great reason we held on to Maxey and Tiise....for future moves.

This is precisely why making the Harden move was essential now and not this summer. This year is as much about fine tuning who should stay and who should go as it is about making a serious championship push. This is a flawed group, and it's going to be made crystal clear by May/June who needs to go this summer and who are keepers.

It's for that reason I really hoped that Bassey would be given the opportunity to be the permanent backup C, and also the fact that he doubles as a potential Harden lob weapon.

[Ferry Avenue]

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[SixthStreet]

The best thing that could happen is if Tobias suddenly starts taking 6 3s a game. He is capable of shooting a decent enough percentage and he is, despite his salary, less crippled as a 2 way player than our other options.

Don't really expect Harris to re-invent himself but I hold out hope.

[Sixerscan]

The best thing that could happen is if Tobias suddenly starts taking 6 3s a game. He is capable of shooting a decent enough percentage and he is, despite his salary, less crippled as a 2 way player than our other options.

Don't really expect Harris to re-invent himself but I hold out hope.

He took 5 threes a game the Butler year, IDK doesn't seem crazy.

[mjkvol]

The best thing that could happen is if Tobias suddenly starts taking 6 3s a game. He is capable of shooting a decent enough percentage and he is, despite his salary, less crippled as a 2 way player than our other options.

Don't really expect Harris to re-invent himself but I hold out hope.

He took 5 threes a game the Butler year, IDK doesn't seem crazy.

True, but he also wasn't a max contract player at that point who had been treated as if he's a franchise pillar. This is going to require a huge adjustment from Tobias, not just in terms of his role on the floor but maybe more so mentally, as his place in the pecking order is drastically different.

[Sixerscan]

The best thing that could happen is if Tobias suddenly starts taking 6 3s a game. He is capable of shooting a decent enough percentage and he is, despite his salary, less crippled as a 2 way player than our other options.

Don't really expect Harris to re-invent himself but I hold out hope.

He took 5 threes a game the Butler year, IDK doesn't seem crazy.

True, but he also wasn't a max contract player at that point who had been treated as if he's a franchise pillar. This is going to require a huge adjustment from Tobias, not just in terms of his role on the floor but maybe more so mentally, as his place in the pecking order is drastically different.

He took 5 a game the following year too in Y1 of his current year. He adjusted to more of a playmaking role when they got Seth and Danny. Now he should go back to more of a spacing roll. We'll see.

[Jailblazers7]

I’d hope that Tobias is willing to embrace a role as a spacer now that he’s on a legit championship contender. It’s also a chance to ensure he gets to live out his contract in Philly because of he proves to be valuable next to Embiid/Harden it becomes much more difficult to justify trading him.