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This is ridiculous. The guys is one of the least productive players in the sport. What are they thinking?

He is a leader when games count the most.

I'm not sure what Morey is thinking but Rivers has shown time and time again he's going down with the guy with more games played than the alternative, evidence be damned.

They obviously promised him playing time. And Embiid and Harden do less defensively with him out there, which they like.

Plus, as mentioned, Glenn has a long track record of going down in flames if necessary with the vet name player.

Intangibles , Toughness, Upper Body Strength, Elite Sneaker collection, Hoarse voice that Doc can relate too.

Doc loves vets and they probably made dumb promises to PJ.

I'm guessing he won't be soon after Maxey gets back.

This thread should say "what were they thinking when they signed PJ Tucker?" Giving him 3 years was always absolutely ridiculous.

I was never against adding PJ Tucker to this roster until I saw for how long and for how much. He was cooked once the postseason wrapped up against Boston last year. You could see it. He's a valuable player to have on this roster, but he shouldn't be playing 35+ MPG. He's not even getting open looks from three in this offense and that's always been his B&B. Now he's playing with a pinched nerve in his right hand and that can't be good. He hurt it last night when he fell on the floor, you could see him holding it when Jo tried to help him up. He's simply too old to be playing that many minutes and I personally have some very profound buyers remorse at this point. I didn't like the signing when it happened and I don't like it now. With all that said, who exactly on this roster is going to replace what he does? Tucker does make our defense all the more better, but that's not really saying a whole lot because this team never seems to want to defend for 48 minutes. It's a tough situation with Tucker because he does give it all he has out there when he's playing, but offensively when he gets the ball passed to him and he's forced to create even in the slightest, it's a nightmare waiting to happen. Kyle...Anderson should have been the player we signed. It doesn't matter now. Done is done, Embiid banged the table for PJ Tucker and Morey went out and got him. It would be wise of a player like Embiid to probably leave the GMing to the actual GM's. Of course they're going to try and keep their star player happy, and that's literally what they did in this situation. Tucker is toast. As bad as he's been for us, this will be his most productive season as a member of this team. I can't wait to see him at 40 on this roster. We are stuck with him.

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I was never against adding PJ Tucker to this roster until I saw for how long and for how much. He was cooked once the postseason wrapped up against Boston last year. You could see it. He's a valuable player to have on this roster, but he shouldn't be playing 35+ MPG.

That's the whole thing right there. The Tucker signing was all about the playoffs, but Glenn being Glenn he's going to run the guy into the ground before we even get to 2023. The hand injury might be a blessing in disguise, as hopefully Tucker will be shut down for a while and will get less minutes once he returns with Maxey about to be activated.

I actually don’t get the “promised minutes” thing. Wouldn’t a 37 year old vet prefer to coast through the reg season and play big minutes in the playoffs similar to Iggy with the Warriors?

Yeah why should Tucker care about his mins? He got his final bag w/that 3 year contract. He should be fine w/limited reg season minutes to save himself for the playoffs.

Now we need Glenn to figure it out.

mjkvol wrote:

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I was never against adding PJ Tucker to this roster until I saw for how long and for how much. He was cooked once the postseason wrapped up against Boston last year. You could see it. He's a valuable player to have on this roster, but he shouldn't be playing 35+ MPG.

That's the whole thing right there. The Tucker signing was all about the playoffs, but Glenn being Glenn he's going to run the guy into the ground before we even get to 2023. The hand injury might be a blessing in disguise, as hopefully Tucker will be shut down for a while and will get less minutes once he returns with Maxey about to be activated.

That was my understanding as well. Or at least my "expected" understanding. I thought that the House signing was for depth, We had Thybulle in the mix. I know some on here aren't the biggest fan of his, but he does have two all NBA defense awards to his resume. If we weren't going to use him, then the logical thing would have been to trade him with his value at it's highest. Thybulle is all but an afterthought right now and the value just wont be there. Not sure that it would have anyway because he still hasn't been able to hit open threes with any kind of consistency....Not gonna get into that right now. Yes...I agree, Doc is playing Tucker way too many minutes, but this entire season thus far has felt like a dog fight. Every game...Opposing teams are competing, they aren't giving us anything. We got beat by Washington last night. IF any good has come out of this season so far, it's the parity in this league. Every team is trying to win. Even Orlando has gotten their act together. That in turn...I guess in Doc's mind means that he has to roll with the starters more than he'd like to? IDK, but yeah...Tucker has been run into the ground thus far and it seems pointless when we have House and Thybulle there in need of minutes. Neither House or Thybulle are the answer at the SF position, but to be fair, neither one of them have been able to find any kind of rhythm within the structure of the team. Doc should absolutely shelf Tucker for the time being, let him get his hand right and pivot to House and Thybulle the same way he did with Shake when Harden and Maxey went down.

I think PJ should be fine come playoffs. He was garbage in the regular season last year with the Heat and did his thing when it counted most. Yes he’s older, but his playing style/physicality is made for playoffs when refs swallow their whistles.

We do need to rest him as much as we can and keep him fresh for the playoffs. Let him get healthy now and play him 20 minutes a game when he’s recovered from his hand injury.

Similarly, can doc stop playing Harden 40+ mins a game? What a disaster. The team still needs a couple more trades to bolster the 3/4/5 positions. A 3 & D wing would be sweet although unlikely. And a backup C like Andre Drummond who can fill the rebounding holes of this team?

One of the worst player in the league indeed, only Sixers would give good amount of money to such trash player.

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:

mjkvol wrote:

ExplosionsInDaSky wrote:I was never against adding PJ Tucker to this roster until I saw for how long and for how much. He was cooked once the postseason wrapped up against Boston last year. You could see it. He's a valuable player to have on this roster, but he shouldn't be playing 35+ MPG.

That's the whole thing right there. The Tucker signing was all about the playoffs, but Glenn being Glenn he's going to run the guy into the ground before we even get to 2023. The hand injury might be a blessing in disguise, as hopefully Tucker will be shut down for a while and will get less minutes once he returns with Maxey about to be activated.

That was my understanding as well. Or at least my "expected" understanding. I thought that the House signing was for depth, We had Thybulle in the mix. I know some on here aren't the biggest fan of his, but he does have two all NBA defense awards to his resume. If we weren't going to use him, then the logical thing would have been to trade him with his value at it's highest. Thybulle is all but an afterthought right now and the value just wont be there. Not sure that it would have anyway because he still hasn't been able to hit open threes with any kind of consistency....Not gonna get into that right now. Yes...I agree, Doc is playing Tucker way too many minutes, but this entire season thus far has felt like a dog fight. Every game...Opposing teams are competing, they aren't giving us anything. We got beat by Washington last night. IF any good has come out of this season so far, it's the parity in this league. Every team is trying to win. Even Orlando has gotten their act together. That in turn...I guess in Doc's mind means that he has to roll with the starters more than he'd like to? IDK, but yeah...Tucker has been run into the ground thus far and it seems pointless when we have House and Thybulle there in need of minutes. Neither House or Thybulle are the answer at the SF position, but to be fair, neither one of them have been able to find any kind of rhythm within the structure of the team. Doc should absolutely shelf Tucker for the time being, let him get his hand right and pivot to House and Thybulle the same way he did with Shake when Harden and Maxey went down.

Thybulle and Korkmaz should both have been moved before the season started, and to me it's essential that Thybulle is out of here before the deadline. I don't care what awards he's won, he's useless on the offensive end even after four years of college and three here he hasn't figured out a way to be useful on that end. And I don't want him on the court in big spots, as he is prone to the stupid foul, and I'm not gambling that he's past that. Thybulle is the classic example of the bad pick that good organizations cash in but bad ones hold onto hoping will come around. There has to be a team that thinks they can get that 'potential' out of him - find that team.

So play double big? Because the alternative is less size.

76ciology wrote:So play double big? Because the alternative is less size.

I hope we play double big at some point just to appease you. I worry you’ll have too many regrets about what could have been lol

Double big with who? Reed? We already tried this with a much better big in Al Horford. Morey is going to have to take a look at who he can get in a trade. As of right now Shake and Thybulle are his best available trade chips.

Jailblazers7 wrote:

76ciology wrote:So play double big? Because the alternative is less size.

I hope we play double big at some point just to appease you. I worry you’ll have too many regrets about what could have been lol

The only alternative I see is either that, or having Melton or house (not a fan of him) to play with Harden over Maxey.

If we continue our starting unit with Maxey, we better play ATG level offense. But how do you do that without pushing the pace with Embiid