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Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:39 pm
by Embiid P
Despite his obvious offensive limitations, he is a real defensive disruptor and a high character team first guy (except for the vaccine thing). Good luck to him in Portland.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:43 pm
by Murray_17
He sealed his destiny with the vaccine stuff before the season in which he was an expiring.
I like matisse as a character but he was the same player we drafted after 4 years and at moments it looked like he was more interested in things like his vlog than improving.
His work was kind of weird too, he added movement off ball that was never useful with the system we play and then released videos of him working on his handle this off season (why??).
I hope he can rebound on Portland but yeah it's what it's
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 8:57 pm
by Bum Adebayo
Huge scrub, surely won't be missed except for the nurserycs of the world.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 9:10 pm
by Jailblazers7
Honestly, I’m happy for Matisse. He’s a crunchy hippy type that will enjoy living in Portland way more than Philly. Hopefully he can sort out his game and reach his potential.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:52 pm
by Iverson Armband
Trading for Melton and signing PJ (to a lesser extent) pretty much sealed his fate. He had a real opportunity when we traded for Harden last year and he didn’t grab it.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 10:57 pm
by 76Love
I have mixed feelings towards Thybulle
Got the first vaccine shot but didn't get the second (which made no sense at all) so he couldn't play in that Toronto series
However, he seemed like a pretty decent individual and he played hard for us
I wish him well
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:05 pm
by Dnt hate
Portland is now my favorite western conference team, I hope he averages 3 steals and 2 blocks a game and becomes a dpoy
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:26 pm
by TheBallsDeeper
Glad he is gone. Was once my favourite player, but can't stand him since he put the Sixers' playoffs at risk because he thinks he knows more about science than scientists.
Absolute peanut.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Thu Feb 9, 2023 11:59 pm
by ProcessDoctor
Thanks for not getting the vaccine when you were playing well and our team needed you.
That was the beginning of the end of his time here.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:38 am
by HotelVitale
Murray_17 wrote:I like matisse as a character but he was the same player we drafted after 4 years and at moments it looked like he was more interested in things like his vlog than improving.
Eh, there’s no question that Matisse like 95% or so of NBA players worked his butt off to improve his jumper and try to get better. They’d just NBA culture and the expected routine. It didn’t take because it’s a really hard thing to do if it’s not natural for you, same reason you probably couldn’t learn how to attacks a close out at full NBA against full NBA athletes. Not many NBA players fail because they don’t put in the time to improve— a few sure but most people just like Matisse just aren’t quite good enough at some aspects or other of the game to be one of the best 250ish players in the world at the specific NBA game.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:40 am
by HotelVitale
Iverson Armband wrote:Trading for Melton and signing PJ (to a lesser extent) pretty much sealed his fate. He had a real opportunity when we traded for Harden last year and he didn’t grab it.
Right, Melton is much better at that role overall (and we all love him) and Thybulle just wasn’t good at finishing all those opportunities Harden’s full court vision gave him. Didn’t work, no need for us or him to be bitter about it.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:42 am
by Murray_17
HotelVitale wrote:Murray_17 wrote:I like matisse as a character but he was the same player we drafted after 4 years and at moments it looked like he was more interested in things like his vlog than improving.
Eh, there’s no question that Matisse like 95% or so of NBA players worked his butt off to improve his jumper and try to get better. They’d just NBA culture and the expected routine. It didn’t take because it’s a really hard thing to do if it’s not natural for you, same reason you probably couldn’t learn how to attacks a close out at full NBA against full NBA athletes. Not many NBA players fail because they don’t put in the time to improve— a few sure but most people just like Matisse just aren’t quite good enough at some aspects or other of the game to be one of the best 250ish players in the world at the specific NBA game.
It's difficult to say 95% of nba players work his butt unless you have access to how they work, i just speak from what i see.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 12:58 am
by HotelVitale
Murray_17 wrote:HotelVitale wrote:Murray_17 wrote:I like matisse as a character but he was the same player we drafted after 4 years and at moments it looked like he was more interested in things like his vlog than improving.
Eh, there’s no question that Matisse like 95% or so of NBA players worked his butt off to improve his jumper and try to get better. They’d just NBA culture and the expected routine. It didn’t take because it’s a really hard thing to do if it’s not natural for you, same reason you probably couldn’t learn how to attacks a close out at full NBA against full NBA athletes. Not many NBA players fail because they don’t put in the time to improve— a few sure but most people just like Matisse just aren’t quite good enough at some aspects or other of the game to be one of the best 250ish players in the world at the specific NBA game.
It's difficult to say 95% of nba players work his butt unless you have access to how they work, i just speak from what i see.
I won’t claim to know that with super precision but I worked for about 7 years at U of Michigan with their athletes and also had a friend in HS who’s dad was on the training stuff for the Bulls. And have 30 years now as a bball fan paying attention to and consuming a wide variety of sports media. All that has consistently told me that it’s just part of the routine everyone does to work out everyday and follow the plan your staff has for you. Only the really immature players or the ones who are dealing with various things don’t do that, it’s like cutting class even though you’re already at school. And everyone is required to have down time within that and for Matisse to film himself babbling (and then make like 5 edits) isn’t cutting into time that would’ve flipped him from very bad to good shooter.
The players who are obsessive workers are truly obsessive workers—like it’s all they do because they’re hung up—and I actually don’t think that translates into much if any on court benefit. Practicing for 7 hours a day in the off-season instead of 8 isn’t going to make you a bad shooter, and players who are really good don’t owe that to an extra bit of practice. (I think it’s more that super competitive people tend to compete better because of their focus etc.)
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 1:32 am
by kuclas
I’m glad he’s gone. Yes. He’s a defensive disruption.
But his two huge mistakes fouling 3 point shooters in game 5 and than game 7 vs hawks.
I would never play thybulle on defense in a close ball game if the game is within 1 possession. Way too much liability making fouls
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:35 am
by Negrodamus
I call this moment "The Blind Leading the Blind".
Seems like a nice guy, hope he has a long career.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:39 am
by Skates
Tisse was fun to watch, low key cool seeing him head back to the Pacific NW.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 3:40 am
by 76ciology
First off, Thybulle is just a great teammate. You’ll never hear any bad thing about him. Probably the goofiest among our guys. He got along with everyone.
Those vlogs he did has a special place for me. It kept me entertained during the pandemic.
He is a very unique player. But his style is very erratic for the defense, and sadly, even to us. This lead him to be not reliable down the stretch.
Offensively, I thought he was OK despite all the criticisms of his shooting. I always believe that we’ll be OK with 1 non spacer because Biid just camp at the Elbows and we frequently see our guys overlapping at the corner. Thybulle did a great job cutting and running down the floor for easy buckets for transition.
If size is an issue, we can alway run zone defense which he becomes a special defender because he can just roam around, he’s great at closing out and since its a zone, the paint is most times defended. The problem with Thybulle for me has always been his rebounding. There was a time when his rebounding was just comparable to Seth Curry.
I think he wants more playing time and was doing too much because he shifted from a team player to a guy looking for his next contract. And I dont blame him for that and I know he can find it in another team.
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 2:45 pm
by spikeslovechild
I liked Thybulle but he never really developed his 3PT shot. He really only needed to do one thing since entering the league and failed.
The vaccine stuff I don't blame him for at all. It was a crazy time full of mass hysteria his stance didn't make sense but neither did the vaccine mandate either especially what we know now and then about its ineffectiveness at preventing the spread of covid.
Wish him well but really wish he'd have put the work on hitting the corner 3. He'd be an easy starter making at least 10-15m if he did. Otherwise he is going to be a fringe guy in the nba
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 4:00 pm
by 76ciology
Re: Matisse Thybulle Appreciation Thread
Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 6:07 pm
by 76ciology