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Playoff rotation?
Posted: Tue Mar 7, 2023 3:29 pm
by pr0wler
Now we've got to see Jalen for 10 games now, I feel like we have a better idea of how he fits with the roster. Personally, I feel like he's a perfect fit with Harden/Maxey and adds much needed defense and off-ball movement. He plays as many minutes possible with the starters, whereas Tobias gets as much time possible with other subs to maximize his offense.
PG - Harden (36) Melton (12)
SG - Maxey (32) Melton (12) Shake (4)
SF - McDaniels (24) Harris (18) Shake (6)
PF - Tucker (20) Niang (18) Harris (10)
C - Embiid (36) Reed (8) Tucker (4)
I like House too, but we can keep him as an 11th man incase anyone gets injured, he can step in at the 3 or 4 and provide some solid minutes. Trez and Dedmon are emergency 5's in case we're desperate. I feel like this balances out the offense/defense as best we can and adjusting the lineup around our 3 best scorers.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Tue Mar 7, 2023 5:41 pm
by ProcessDoctor
Doc usually plays 9 in the POs, and I imagine Shake will be the odd man out. There’s also no way in hell they don’t start Tucker/Harris (unfortunately). I agree with the notion that McDaniels is a better fit with this team though. This really ought to be the off-season Harris is traded.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Tue Mar 7, 2023 6:43 pm
by TTP
Harden averages 37 mpg this year in the regular season (and over his last five years). No shot he only gets 36 in the playoffs. Last year he averaged 40 for us. Maxey and Embiid should get more as well. Niang, Shake, and McDaniels probably fewer. Tobias probably more too.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Tue Mar 7, 2023 7:07 pm
by Sam Hinkie
PG: Harden (40), Melton (8)
SG: Maxey (36), Melton (12)
SF: Harris (24), Melton (10), McDaniels (4)
PF: Tucker (34), Harris (10), McDaniels (4)
C: Embiid (40), Reed (8)
Harden- 40
Embiid - 40
Maxey - 36
Harris - 34
Tucker- 34
Melton - 30
Reed - 8
McDaniels - 8 (these minutes probably get split between Melton and Tucker in must win games)
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Tue Mar 7, 2023 7:08 pm
by Sam Hinkie
ProcessDoctor wrote:Doc usually plays 9 in the POs, and I imagine Shake will be the odd man out. There’s also no way in hell they don’t start Tucker/Harris (unfortunately). I agree with the notion that McDaniels is a better fit with this team though. This really ought to be the off-season Harris is traded.
I was very critical of Morey not trading Harris long ago. People claim it was too much to get off his contract and he'll do it next year. But it might be too late...
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Tue Mar 7, 2023 9:46 pm
by Bum Adebayo
Replace Harris for Tucker and Melton for Maxey in the SL, both have much better RPM than the guy they replace.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:09 am
by phillynative
I think Harden ,Maxey , McDaniels, Tobias , Embiid is the best complimentary lineup going into the playoffs . Sub in Melton and Niang first for McDaniels and Tobias.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:27 am
by mjkvol
pr0wler wrote:Now we've got to see Jalen for 10 games now, I feel like we have a better idea of how he fits with the roster. Personally, I feel like he's a perfect fit with Harden/Maxey and adds much needed defense and off-ball movement. He plays as many minutes possible with the starters, whereas Tobias gets as much time possible with other subs to maximize his offense.
PG - Harden (36) Melton (12)
SG - Maxey (32) Melton (12) Shake (4)
SF - McDaniels (24) Harris (18) Shake (6)
PF - Tucker (20) Niang (18) Harris (10)
C - Embiid (36) Reed (8) Tucker (4)
I like House too, but we can keep him as an 11th man incase anyone gets injured, he can step in at the 3 or 4 and provide some solid minutes. Trez and Dedmon are emergency 5's in case we're desperate. I feel like this balances out the offense/defense as best we can and adjusting the lineup around our 3 best scorers.
Do you seriously think that Glenn, after pounding Harden and Embiid night after night in the RS is going to play them only 36 minutes in the playoffs? Do you really believe Harris won't start and play 36 minutes minimum? C'mon now. I get where you're going here, but the reality will be a different story.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 12:37 am
by FlyingArrow
Harden - 40
Embiid - 40
Maxey - 34
Harris - 34
Tucker - 30
Melton - 26
McDaniels - 22
Niang - 16
Reed - 8
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 2:57 am
by ExplosionsInDaSky
We've got some depth this year. Doc needs to think long and hard about his options. I know he has his rotation already figured, but we've got some extra chess pieces like House, Harrell, and even Korkmaz if needed.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 3:42 am
by Dnt hate
Sam Hinkie wrote:PG: Harden (40), Melton (8)
SG: Maxey (36), Melton (12)
SF: Harris (24), Melton (10), McDaniels (4)
PF: Tucker (34), Harris (10), McDaniels (4)
C: Embiid (40), Reed (8)
Harden- 40
Embiid - 40
Maxey - 36
Harris - 34
Tucker- 34
Melton - 30
Reed - 8
McDaniels - 8 (these minutes probably get split between Melton and Tucker in must win games)
This^ and sprinkle in some Niang if we need more shooting
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 6:53 am
by 76ciology
McDaniels has potential but he’s not that playable in heavy minutes because he is not THAT good on defense and shooting (shoots only 33% on corner 3s. Only 16% as a Sixer).
He is too inconsistent for a team like us who needs consistency with the starters. Its not like we have a young Kawhi Leonard playing off the bench that will surprise everyone like its 2011-2013
I still see us playing heavy Tobias/Tucker duo then back-up of McDaniels/Niang.
Then heavy Maxey/Harden then back-up Milton/Melton.
Its a moot point to talk about minutes because its a game to game basis. It depends on match-ups and how close the games are.
Some match-ups, Niang may play more (i.e Tobias can’t knock down a jumper)
Some match-ups, McDaniels may not even play (i.e Tobias having a great shooting night)
Some match-ups, Reed will play. Some match-ups, Reed will not play and Tucker will play back-up 5.
Some match-ups, we run 3 guard unit of Maxey-Harden-Melton to speed it up. Some match-ups we need to play big with Tucker-McDaniels and Embiid.
And thats great, it means we have flexibility and options. If you can already determine the line-ups and minutes it means your team is without options and flexibility that you can only play a certain way. Opponents can also scheme you up thoroughly just as our previous squad.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Wed Mar 8, 2023 9:25 am
by Jhawk03
76ciology wrote:McDaniels has potential but he’s not that playable in heavy minutes because he is not THAT good on defense and shooting. He is too inconsistent for a team like us who needs consistency with the starters. Its not like we have a young Kawhi Leonard playing off the bench that will surprise everyone like its 2011-2013
I still see us playing heavy Tobias/Tucker duo then back-up of McDaniels/Niang.
Then heavy Maxey/Harden then back-up Milton/Melton.
Its a moot point to talk about minutes because its a game to game basis. It depends on match-ups and how close the games are.
Some match-ups, Niang may play more (i.e Tobias can’t knock down a jumper)
Some match-ups, McDaniels may not even play (i.e Tobias having a great shooting night)
Some match-ups, Reed will play. Some match-ups, Reed will not play and Tucker will play back-up 5.
Some match-ups, we run 3 guard unit of Maxey-Harden-Melton to speed it up. Some match-ups we need to play big with Tucker-McDaniels and Embiid.
And thats great, it means we have flexibility and options. If you can already determine the line-ups and minutes it means your team is without options and flexibility that you can only play a certain way. Opponents can also scheme you up thoroughly just as our previous squad.
You got it coach!!!!!!
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2023 4:00 am
by 76ciology
76ciology wrote:McDaniels has potential but he’s not that playable in heavy minutes because he is not THAT good on defense and shooting (shoots only 33% on corner 3s. Only 16% as a Sixer).
He is too inconsistent for a team like us who needs consistency with the starters. Its not like we have a young Kawhi Leonard playing off the bench that will surprise everyone like its 2011-2013
I still see us playing heavy Tobias/Tucker duo then back-up of McDaniels/Niang.
Then heavy Maxey/Harden then back-up Milton/Melton.
Its a moot point to talk about minutes because its a game to game basis. It depends on match-ups and how close the games are.
Some match-ups, Niang may play more (i.e Tobias can’t knock down a jumper)
Some match-ups, McDaniels may not even play (i.e Tobias having a great shooting night)
Some match-ups, Reed will play. Some match-ups, Reed will not play and Tucker will play back-up 5.
Some match-ups, we run 3 guard unit of Maxey-Harden-Melton to speed it up. Some match-ups we need to play big with Tucker-McDaniels and Embiid.
And thats great, it means we have flexibility and options. If you can already determine the line-ups and minutes it means your team is without options and flexibility that you can only play a certain way. Opponents can also scheme you up thoroughly just as our previous squad.
This.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2023 7:03 am
by M2J
Definitely has to be strategic with the forward spots, and Maxey/Melton to some degree. McDaniels can play in the dunker spot or run into that area from the corner better than most on this team. Can be valuable. He was great vs the bucks.
Really a juggling act with this roster.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Sat Apr 8, 2023 1:39 pm
by strotorious
Worth a bump without much else to talk about. I think I've got a rotation I feel good about.
Starting lineup is Harden-Maxey-Tucker-Harris-Embiid as usual.
Harden usually sits for the last 5 of the 1st and 3rd, so I'd go with Maxey-Melton-McD-Niang-Embiid. Good shooting, two weak links on defense, but McDaniels provides Embiid a second rim protector.
When Embiid sits the start of the 2nd and 4th it would be Harden-Melton-McD-Harris-Reed. Very switchable defense, kind of bland half court offense, but enough offensive rebounding and transition to cover for it.
Close each half with the starting lineup, but with the flexibility to sub Maxey/Melton and Tucker/Niang based on the situation.
Re: Playoff rotation?
Posted: Sun Apr 9, 2023 4:26 am
by SixthStreet
We really should limit both Harden and Embiid to 36 in the Nets series. If they are playing 40-42 they, specifically Harden, won't have spring against the Celtics.